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TRBenj
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I imagine it would be, though a reverse rotation motor will make it a little more tricky. A turbo, on the other hand, would be a heck of a project to make work. Not sure how you would install one on a wet exhaust system. |
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Hollywood
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apparently RA (more like DA) does, ask him |
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reidp
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Steve, See this link from Barr. Have you already checked these and they're not available? I know some of the Chrysler Poly 318 manifolds are shown but not in production currently. I didn't know if this was the case with your Gray AMC's or not. http://barrmarine.net/wordpress/graymarine-fireball-v8/ |
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douche bag-(hollywood)...why dont you read from the start and you can answear that one yourself...anyways i just asked, didnt know it wasnt possible, stated im not to savy on motors
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actually if you look online theres many turbocharged boats...google turbocharged boats
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boat dr
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Rhyan wa are starting to see that......................boat dr
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what gives you more power a turbo or a blower?..just curious
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79nautique
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it not which gives you more power it's when the power comes on turbo on a boat isn't really the best route.
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Hollywood
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anything's possible, comes down to practicality in a ski boat. go work on your stereo.
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MarineSRT8
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Ryan you just have to take into account a turbo charger depends on exhaust pressure to spool up and will have lag in the RPMs where you really need the power in a ski boat...and with a blower you will have instant boost BUT of course a blower puts a drag on the motor because the crank is what spools it. If you could possibly run a twin REALLY REALLY small turbo set up (the reason I say reall small is because with littler turbos you catch boost a lot faster) it would be a possibility in a ski boat. I would think a fuel injected computer controlled system woul be about the only way considering the fact you would need to have complete control of your boost.....
Your looking at a LOT more money for a turbo set up for this kind of boat....Go with a srew |
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RainDog
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Thanks Reid, but no dice. Just got an answer back from them. I think I was told that Barr had a fire and the molds for the Gray 327 were destroyed. With limited demand, they havn't made new tooling. |
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8122pbrainard
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I may be in the same boat when the time comes for new ones on my 312! And the originals are aluminum so that time will come! Has anyone ever used one of the custom casting firms that will duplicate? I'm sure big $$$. |
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thanks for all the advice guys...do any of you guys no anyone with a ski boat who had a blower by any chance?
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JoeinNY
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You can do a search here and you will find pics of both a twin turbo century and a supercharged nautique or two that were used in the ski fly a couple years back that probably didn't make production. They were however not reverse rotation.
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68sklylark
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Boat Doc,
Thanks for the time you spent talking with me last month. I still may be interested in Hi Teks for our Skylark, but are currently working on some replacement cast maniflods we found. We are going to try to keep the boat as stock as possible, that means we will be keeping the 300 Buick in it as long as po$$ible. Thanks again, Keith McIntyre |
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68sklylark
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Boat Dr,
We worked on the manifolds today. We are in for Hi-Teks. Let me me know if this deal happens. Keith 586-531-5513 ksmcintyre@centurytel.net |
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87BFN owner
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Boat doc and anyone else that was thinking of getting a set of hi-teks. Has everyone that was thinking about getting a set got them, or are you waiting for the right amount of people? Boat Doc would you still be willing to up us out and get another group buy from Allen if there is enough interest even though your not going to be ordering a set this time?
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Jim, after the issues I had with Allen,even though he made it right,I will bail on this offer.
Not enough sugar for the nickel........... |
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87BFN owner
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Doc, I can not say I blame you. But can you blame me for asking. If I decide to get another set, which I am leaning towards. I am thinking I will send him one of my manifolds and risers right from the get this time. Plus with the issues we had last time I think I deserve a little something from him price wise.
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81nautique
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I don't remember you guys having issues, what did I miss? Was it fitment, service, quality, delivery? I need to do something eventually with my exhaust and these have been in the back of my mind for a while. |
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87BFN owner
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Alan
The finished product was great both times. The first set sent to me would not fit under the engine cover. After quite a few phone conversations between the boat doc and I, Allen and I and the boat doc and Allen, all problems were solved. I ended up sending him my manifold and he made a jig with it. For the purposes of you engine Alan I don't think you will have any problems. Allens only issue was, that he is used to having all kinds of room. He had not dealt with are limited space under our engine covers before. The only other issue was the promise of when the new set of manifolds would get to my house. They were a few days late, but as you saw they made it to GL. I would get another set from him, with out worry. The boat doc, I believe just does not want to be caught in the middle. He felt responsible for the manifolds until everyone was happy. I thank him greatly for that. He assisted me quite a bit in getting a proper fitting set of manifolds. Sorry about the long post. |
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boat dr
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Alan, just a side note to the above post.
Reid's set would not fit either, tooo wide also, the story was he built a set for the tall valve covers and did not change the jig. As with 87 the problem was resolved and everyone pleased. But I will not get into the middle of that situation again,Australia phone calls are 15.00 per minute.Boat Dr. sold the manifolds at cost as a favor for all involved.So on the next order it will be a one on one with Allen. I too had a small problem with mine , but not grave enough to send back to be refitted, the anode fitting on the starboard was to the front and not on the rear . You can drain ALL THE WATER ON PORT, but on STARBOARD YOU WILL LEAVE ABOUT 2" OF WATER IN THE MANIFOLD..... |
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TRBenj
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Just a quick note here- not a single issue with mine. I guess Im the lucky one in the group. |
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Nautique2001
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Tim,
Any winter plans for the '90? Are you going to do more mods to the engine? If you've already posted any ideas or plans, I apologize for playing catch up. Ken |
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TRBenj
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Other than some minor cleanup, Ive got nothing planned for the '90. Ive got to see how many footers it will pull before I add any more power. Gonna try and get a group of 6 or 7 together in the spring to wring it out. It pulled 2 of us (combined 400+ lbs) at 45mph a few weeks ago. The Tique will be getting all my attention instead. If everything works out, its getting traded for another project boat in the spring. |
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Nautique2001
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Tim, make sure you take pictures of your progress with the Tique. I'm interested to see what you're doing and how you're doing it. Should be a cool little hot rod for somebody. If it's anything like Larry's, full steam will be 50+ MPH.
I love the torque in the '90. That thing must rip you right out of the hole. Can the pylon take the stress of 6 or 7 footers? Ken |
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TRBenj
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I should have taken some "before" pics when I first bought it. The engine is assembled now and running, and I buffed the deck out- so its already starting to look better. Ill take some pics of the structural work- mostly so the new owner appreciates what went into it. I expect the thing to top out right around 50 when its done. Sadly, thats faster than the '90- not bad for a stock 302. I figure since Brad's tall pylon didnt budge with 4 of us pulling from it, a few more wont hurt mine. The taller tow point adds to the stress, but the connection to the bow eye helps relieve some too. |
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