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Dank
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@ kpala: do you have any issue with the rope getting caught on boards when you swing around to pick up a rider for another pull? I have a similar setup to you, but I have my board rack oriented 90 degrees from how yours is. Maybe I need to switch it so the boards are parallel to the boat instead of perpendicular. I'd prob go w/the tower since I exclusively wakeboard. I've thought about putting one on my BFN, but I've also thought about just "upgrading" to a SAN :)
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lewy2001
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I have gone through stages with towers. When I first seen them I thought they looked like scaffolding. Then the wish bone Titan towers came out & I thought they looked good. Now I like the look of FCT towers & think the wishbone looks very dated. I wonder if they will become a fashion item that boat manufacturer's will use to help sell their newer models like Malibu have?
The storage option of boards on towers are a plus but with a bit of thought and ingenuity pole racks & bimini racks can provide a lot of storage. We can fit 4 wake boards & 2 knee boards on our combination. I like the fact that we can put our setup up & down completely in a few minutes. We always tow with a travel cover so this is important. I have almost ruled out ever fitting a tower. Storing boats with towers is also a problem when I had the 87 with monster tower I managed to put a dent in my carport barge panel.(dont ask) |
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azeus17
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Oh Boy Lewy...you really are taking a chance posting a pic like that first one with this bunch of guys!
Just kidding. I assume they are your daughters? Oh yeah, I like the ingenuity with the bimini. |
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boat dr
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There is a site at PN that would love to have this thread.
Thirty posts about whether to trash a boat with a tower is a little much guys. Lets talk about something other than towers , woofers of other bling that the PN drool over. Sorry this aint the site for that BLING. |
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JoeinNY
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This is one of those topics on which I must respectfully disagree with the good doctor, bling away.
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WakeSlayer
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I, along with Joe, am going to respectfully disagree with Doc on this one.
This is my bling boat. |
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boat dr
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Joe, point taken.....
Brings to mind the statement about putting lipstick on a pig. The boat is a work of art, can't say the same for that thing on the top. Will request that this be moved over to that other site tho............. To each his own , and the classics should be held to a higher standard than the bling boats. I thought this site was about the preservation and sharing of the older boats and owners, guess I was wrong. The next thread will be what: Mood Lights and how to install and wire for maximum effect.... How to install fat sacks in a Atom Skier.... SpiderMan Graphics install tips for a Barracuda. By the way Joe, Does it go or just sit on the trailer.You can get a lot of air with that tower being pulled at 65mph down interstate.............boat dr |
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JoeinNY
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We let new boats in too Billy, I mean we can't kick brother Reid out just because he is riding around in a 2009 SN these days can we. As for mine, she used to go but I had to take out the engine to make room for the amplifiers for the speakers and the power supplies for the led lights.
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05 210
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Yes you were. Mike (proud owner of a future classic) |
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quinner
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Geez Doc, my boat came straight from the CC factory with a tower and will one day fall within the classic category, they have been putting towers on their boats for over ten years now, at what age does one consider a boat to be a classic? And also, guess who invented, holds the patent and collects royalties on every "Tower" sold??
Sebastian, to answer a few of your questions, most towers will fold down to where it's highest point is only about 7 feet off the ground while on the trailer, your existing bimini may not work with a tower so it's possible that would need to be replaced, the boats cover would need to be modified to go around the tower legs, towing with a tower is not a problem assuming you avoid any low bridges, if done at night you will be cleaning bugs off it however. I have had extended pylons and towers on various boats and in my opinion the tower does not seem as affected be a side pull, that however could all be in my head. We pull just about everything except slalom and trick from the tower, it adds great function, provides additional storage and of course is a great place to hang those monster loud speakers! It's a tough call, if that was my boat I might stick with the extended pylon however if your heart is set on a tower you should definitely go for it! |
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WakeSlayer
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now now Doc,
i just like the best of both. They are all Correct Crafts, after all. I do kind of not really talk about my Super Air over here cause it is more about the oldies. Which I love at least as much. I LOVE Barbara's Mustang. By the same token, I don't really talk about the Pony over on PN. They both have their purpose and place for my lake time. I do understand what you mean though. But all my boats do say Correct Craft on the side. Mike PS: my PythonBoat has moodlighting! |
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WakeSlayer
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Geezuss Quinner,
Ummm, speakers anyone? Nice, dude. M |
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boat dr
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Any one with 10,000 cash and a credit score of 740 can buy one of those. What about a that is classic?
CC is down to a two day work week and an inventory of 150 boats stored at Orlando. It's a sad day in Mudville guys. Looks like Casey may strike out.I would hate to see CC go under, BUT, They have lost touch with the boats that kept them in the boating top ten for the last 75 years. look in the classisfied and see how many "future classics" are for sale at payoff. Also look and see how many 70's Ski Nautiques,or other models are posted there. How many classic owners on this site own their boat outright? How many here still have a note to meet each month? Not to mention gas ,ins. and maint. and storage fees??????????????? Flame away Chris has thickened my skin......Boat dr |
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boat dr
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Mike it may say CorrectCraft, but have you ever noticed how small the lettering is compared to the rest of the logo.
It is like they have become ashamed of their heritage.Nautiques is what they want to be known by. Kinda funny that as they have moved away from their roots, the tree slowly looses it's leaves. Maybe Death is a short season away. The handwriting is on the wall, if drastic measures are not taken they to will go .Outsource them too, will be the corporate answer.Air Nautique's built in China. Not gonna affect my OLD BOAT, I gotta hustle to find needed parts for her. You guys just pick up the phone and make a parts order.What happens when no one answers the phone ?????Boat dr |
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The Lake
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Interesting Boat Dr. I always get in trouble when commenting on the economy. Does anyone know, have new boat prices increased faster than new car prices? Are the other boat companies in the same boat? I know that boats are made in much lower quantities than cars and therefore are probably more expensive per unit to produce, but it does seem that boat builders have gotten away from a basic ski boat. I am assuming that is where the market took them, and now it is biting them. I hope CC can hang on; they've put a lot of good memories on lakes and rivers around the world. Chuck |
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eric lavine
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someone is rubbing off on that guy lol, so there really is a problem with the economy? you get bumped up to the category of "brass nuts" the order is 1.marshmellow nuts 2 wood nuts 3. tin nuts 4. brass nuts 5 steel nuts and finally 6. titanium nuts lol
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Riley
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Billy, all the boat manufacturers are hurting. I can't help but think that Correct Craft should have stayed in their old facility. They had their official ground breaking ceremony in November of 2000. When did they build that place, 2006? Talk about poor timing.
3 event boats put Malibu on the map. Take a look at their line up. It sucks. They abandoned their core group for the bling boats. At least Correct Craft still haas the SN 196. Anyone that's heard Joe's stereo knows it's a work of art. There should have been a category for it at Lake George. I've never heard one so loud that sounded so good. When Joe left Log Bay on Saturday, I could barely see his boat or hear those Hi Teks, but I could still plainly hear the words of the music. |
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MI-nick
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i see my boats as workhorses and the tower just improves upon what they already do better than any other boat...pull.
i like new things, especially when they get old...i stole that from a high milage motor oil commercial... |
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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WakeSlayer
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That would be the only thing small about my other boat. They had to leave room for the big 502 sticker. They made 11 of these boats with that motor in 1999. One sank, I know two other owners. That leaves 7 more out there. Sounds pretty future classic to me, really. |
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C-Bass
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Well I am not much of a wakeboarder so it goes without saying I don't really like the look of the towers. However, it's your boat, don't worry about impressing a bunch of guys over the web just to keep it original.
One could argue that engine modifications don't preserve the originality of boats either. What's the difference between "bling" on top of the boat, and "bling" under the engine cover? This is no way knocking on you or your boat Doc...from the pics it's a piece of artwork, outside and inside the engine cover. Basically this was just my way of saying, "To each his own". I don't ask anyone else what types of food I should buy at the grocery store...because I have my own taste. |
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boat dr
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[QUOTE=C-Bass]
One could argue that engine modifications don't preserve the originality of boats either. What's the difference between "bling" on top of the boat, and "bling" under the engine cover? The difference being that bling on the top is for "SHOW ONLY" The motor you see there is for "GO" No BS there,331 stroker. Heads, cam,intake,HiTek headers, crank driven raw water pump, bla bla bla. It was built for a single purpose "HP" Dad said it ain't BS if you can back it up...............Boat dr |
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8122pbrainard
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Billy's nuts per Eric:
Bumped up to Titanium!! 90545A041 Titanium Hex Nut 3/4"-10 Thread Size, 1-1/8" Width, 41/64" Height $28.04 Each |
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WakeSlayer
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^^funny as hell^^
Billy calls it like he sees it, that is for sure. |
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81nautique
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Harder than steel but a little on the small side.. jk That next sound is me ducking |
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C-Bass
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I'm not calling BS on that motor, I'm very sure it could back it up with lots of GO. But that's just it, these boats weren't designed to "GO", they were designed to "TOW". My point was that some may not see the point in making a tow boat with all those guts, they're more worried about how well it performs the towing part. So the way I see it is, if a tower helps Sebastian's storage problem, and he doesn't mind the look of it, he should get one. But if he's doing it to help the resale value, or to just impress the ladies, or anything that's just "for show", then yes I agree he should probably reconsider... |
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C-Bass
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Disclaimer:
Not trying to pi$$ ya off Boat Doc, or anyone else who modifies their engines for that matter. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate against your point of view...guess I'm just bored or something. But I definitely think it's sweet watching a modified inboard launch out of the water with lots of "GO". I think it was JoeinNY's video that I've seen which is an awesome holeshot video. |
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8122pbrainard
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Not Titanium - just plain grade 2 steel but defiantly bigger! 90490A327 Grade 2 Plain Steel Hex Nut 4"-8 Thread Size, 6" Width, 4" Height $168.77 Each |
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quinner
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Well actually, depending on what "Bling" you are referring, there is more function then looks IMO. The function a Tower adds is pretty awesome really, it creates additional lift which greatly enhances your ability to get "Air" or do "Tricks" on any board or a hydrofoil, the additional lift while barefooting is great as well, when teaching new skiers or pulling very novice recreational skiers the lift is also a help, additionally it allows passengers to sit in the back seat for those times when it's not the hard core ski or foot runs where you want a minimal wake/passenger load. As far as the "Speaker" bling, what can I say, there is nothing cooler then rippin a foot run across the lake with Van Halen or Kid Rock along for the ride. As far as CC goes, my guess is they are in it for the long haul, there is no question we are in some tough times, so many I have talked to, including my own business, are down quite a bit, shortened work weeks, etc. let's all hope for better times ahead. Really don't think CC has forgotten about the skier either, Wakeboarding is huge and the demand for that style boat has been much greater then the straight inboard "classic" 196/206 style ski boat. Had CC only produced the 196/206 over the past 10yrs they would have been on a 2 day work work long before now. BTW Doc, the "Bling" on your boat is 2nd to none and very cool! Great comment above "To Each His Own" !! |
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Riley
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Chris, you gonna pull your boat out to Lake George in September?
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The motor in Karens boat was not built for top end speed. These old boats were very unstable above 55 mph. Mine is included in this statement.
The stroker was built as a direct result of owning and "flying" a 26 foot parasail.If you want to see what kinda' pull your boat has,make a pass with that tied to your stern. Even tho the HP is higher thanmost 351, I was after the "TORQUE" 400 plus pounds of twist.Currently I am running a 12x15 OJ LEDGEND. If Reid brings me his loaner we will see if she can pull a 12x16. The BS stops where the prop hits the water.....Boat dr |
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