to tower or not to tower
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Topic: to tower or not to tower
Posted By: kapla
Subject: to tower or not to tower
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 1:56pm
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I´m kind of in a middle of a dilema, I like the classic look of the boat with the skylon and clean lines of it when removed, but a tower would free some space in the boat, also improving space for boards and speaker etc, but don´t like the idea of having the hull drilled and modified for mounting it!!!
Heres a pic a similar boat as mine but with 1998 tower design... 
what do you think I guess theres gonna be mix opinions here!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 2:03pm
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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 2:14pm
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If you do add a tower make it a FCT! I think a FCT would compliment the sloped transom and the angle of the bow. The tower in the pic looks to square and upright for a boat that has fast lines! ------------- |
Posted By: backfoot100
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 2:22pm
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Sebastian,
I just posted about this someplace else about this exact thing. Personally, I would prefer to stay with the skylon. Taking everything off in a couple minutes still retains the classic lines. Classics just don't look right with them. I can't argue about the space savings, strength and visibility advantages that a tower offers. Then you might have to worry about boat storage and covering issues with the tower. I guess as long as it's your boat, you have to live with it if you put the tower on. When it comes time to resell, it could be a plus or a huge deterrent for the potential buyer. Then again, removing the tower and patching a few holes wouldn't be the end of the world either as long as you can match the colors really well. The holes will be in some of the most obvious spots for cosmetic purposes. ------------- When people run down to the lake to see what's making that noise, you've succeeded. Eddie |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 2:25pm
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I look at some of the towers and the lines dont match like above, it really throws the lines of the boat out of whack ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Daveinater
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 2:31pm
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Hey Sebastian,
Good to hear from you again. As you know, our boats look very similar. I am taking the plunge with a New Dimension tower (see thread http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12718&PN=1 - here ) Here's a good idea of what the boat will look like: 
(1991-1994 Barefoot Nautique) 
(Your model...1990-1996 Ski Nautique) Like you, I had the same concerns. My (humble) opinion is a tower will only help you in resale value EXCEPT for a "purist buyer" who wants the classic look (we all know there are plenty of people out there---here---like that, which is cool.) It's a matter of preference but, generally, if you buy a good tower and have it installed correctly, I'd say it'd be a good investment. Flame-retardant suit is on...okay guys, I'm ready for incoming... 
--Dave ------------- Dave B. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3734" rel="nofollow - Our 1992 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 2:42pm
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Another huge thing I forgot and eddie menction it, is the storage..
I guess storage would go up for at least 20% as i need a larger bed for extra room to clear the tower... 
One more for the skylon!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 3:14pm
I disagree- sort of. Adding a tower *might* not hurt the resale value in the eyes of the right type of prospective buyer (non-purist), but theres no way you'll increase the value enough to recover 100% of the cost when it comes time to sell- just like any other upgrade you add. In my opinion, it makes zero financial sense to add- so I wouldnt factor that in as a positive at all. It will certainly hurt the value in the eyes of any purist, like you mention. Sebastian, I wont even comment on what I think you should do- you know my thoughts on the subject. I love the clean lines of the 90-93 SN's!  ------------- |
Daveinater wrote:Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 3:17pm
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Sebastian, I wont even comment on what I think you should do- you know my thoughts on the subject. I love the clean lines of the 90-93 SN's! [/QUOTE] I was sure this topic was going to be hot!!! My idea is to stay original... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: The Lake
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 3:47pm
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Can you strap tubes to the tower; that would free up some space :)
Chuck ------------- Walk on Water www.coldwater.me http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=775&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970 - 69 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 3:56pm
yes I think... but actually never saw one... tuber attack!!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Daveinater
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 4:16pm
Ouch, Chuck...that hurts. NO TUBES ON THE TOWER!! Geez, don't let my kids read this.... ------------- Dave B. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3734" rel="nofollow - Our 1992 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 4:47pm
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I have a Flitepipe that I take on/off my 95snob. It has a wakeboard/ski rake mounted to it.Wakedesigns. Works for me. Personally, I am not a tower fan, then again I dont like Honda Civics with coffee can mufflers and 20inch rims, so I might be a bit out of touch with todays styles.
Picture of it off the boat, bought it out of our classifieds here. 
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Posted By: Daveinater
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 4:50pm
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Nice pylon. That was my first choice in extended pylons but, when attached to the clamp, it sat right on top of my ski locker. I had an Air Boom w/ racks and recently sold it. Definitely another good option! ------------- Dave B. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3734" rel="nofollow - Our 1992 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 4:53pm
Here you can see pics of my fly high?? rig...
 ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:10pm
My seat will not go up with the pylon in place, so I keep a wrench handy and loosen it up and rotate it as needed. But, last year all my kids did was ski, so I barely used it!! |
Posted By: Daveinater
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:14pm
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Hey Sebastian,
Nice boat, and it sure is neat to see the same unusual color combo as my Sport. Hey, I have a Taylor Made extended bimini w/ zipper for use w/ extended pylon, same color. Not sure if yours does or will need replacing anytime soon, but I can make you a deal on it if interested. Dave ------------- Dave B. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3734" rel="nofollow - Our 1992 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:18pm
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Dave thanks for the offer!!! but mine still good for a couple of seasons, an it also has the hole for the pilon as you can se at the pics.
But in case of ineterest freigth charges to Buenos Aires for it make them pricey ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Daveinater
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:19pm
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no problem...mine is made for extended pylon as well:
(Manufacturer's Photo) 
(My bimini)  ------------- Dave B. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3734" rel="nofollow - Our 1992 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:26pm
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not that neat, PO cut the hole in the middle of the bimini, and when pilon is out you have a nice sky view!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:27pm
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I´m 200 post old !!!! ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:30pm
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can someone come up with the pic of the treated wood tower, good time for it
I think i remember your 100th, learn how to babble and you'll be at 1000 in no time ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Daveinater
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:31pm
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I am a certified professional Babbleologist. I'm surprised I only have 95 posts....? ------------- Dave B. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3734" rel="nofollow - Our 1992 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:47pm
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Hey About the pic I posted of the red sn I think is a 1992, It belongs to a guy I know and I´m trying to make him join here...
Hope he bites the hook.... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:49pm
Dave, I noticed you are in Ga....What Lake do you goto? I am across the pond in McCormick, SC Clarks Hill. |
Posted By: Daveinater
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 5:59pm
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Hey neighbor! We live just south of Atlanta but have a place on Lake Wedowee in AL which is 1:15 drive away. It is about 30 mins south of Anniston, AL. The lakes around Atlanta are too crazy! ------------- Dave B. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3734" rel="nofollow - Our 1992 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: emccallum
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 6:02pm
| Do you have any water down there? We are still 13 ft down! |
Posted By: MI-nick
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 6:11pm
i have 2 boats ('88 and '93 Ski Nautiques) both with towers. my boat usage is 95% wakeboarding so tower is an easy choice for me. more space in the boat and more solid pull are the top two reasons. I also think the tower is structurally better for the boat. 4 attachment points vs. 1. the pull on the tower through the attachment points tends to roll the boat where the pull from the extended pylon would tend to torque the factory pylon mount (~3 X the torque from the factory pylon)...of course this is all my opinion. I think the new dimensions or origial FCT look best on these boats. my '93 has a titan series I which i think looks really good (and only ~$1300). My '88 has a custom aluminum tower which i also thing looks really good. then again, there is always the wood tower...
 ------------- As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure... |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 6:19pm
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Eric Here´s one with the wood tower and the arch tower
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7904&KW=wood+tower - wood tower ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: Daveinater
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 7:00pm
Well our lake is an Alabama Power lake, and they draw the water down to "winter pool" over the winter. They got a variance to keep it above winter pool and it's a fair bit above that. We're not hearing anything about the water level being kept anything lower than the full (summer) pool so, knock on wood, we're expecting a normal summer with good water. Boy it's been a real bummer the past couple years. We've taken our boat out of the water in July. We have only 9 ft. of water under our lift with full pool, so we watch it closely. ------------- Dave B. %20http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=3734" rel="nofollow - Our 1992 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: Dank
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 7:34pm
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@ kpala: do you have any issue with the rope getting caught on boards when you swing around to pick up a rider for another pull? I have a similar setup to you, but I have my board rack oriented 90 degrees from how yours is. Maybe I need to switch it so the boards are parallel to the boat instead of perpendicular. I'd prob go w/the tower since I exclusively wakeboard. I've thought about putting one on my BFN, but I've also thought about just "upgrading" to a SAN :) ------------- "I don't know what the world may need, but a http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=886&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1986&yrend=1990" rel="nofollow - V8 engine's a good start for me" |
Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 10:03pm
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I have gone through stages with towers. When I first seen them I thought they looked like scaffolding. Then the wish bone Titan towers came out & I thought they looked good. Now I like the look of FCT towers & think the wishbone looks very dated. I wonder if they will become a fashion item that boat manufacturer's will use to help sell their newer models like Malibu have?
The storage option of boards on towers are a plus but with a bit of thought and ingenuity pole racks & bimini racks can provide a lot of storage. We can fit 4 wake boards & 2 knee boards on our combination. I like the fact that we can put our setup up & down completely in a few minutes. We always tow with a travel cover so this is important. I have almost ruled out ever fitting a tower. Storing boats with towers is also a problem when I had the 87 with monster tower I managed to put a dent in my carport barge panel.(dont ask) 
------------- If you're going through hell, keep going http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=2999" rel="nofollow - 89 Ski <a href="http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5685" ta |
Posted By: azeus17
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 10:29pm
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Oh Boy Lewy...you really are taking a chance posting a pic like that first one with this bunch of guys!
Just kidding. I assume they are your daughters? Oh yeah, I like the ingenuity with the bimini. ------------- Boats: Current: 02 SANTE Sold: 89 Sport Nautique |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 10:43pm
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There is a site at PN that would love to have this thread.
Thirty posts about whether to trash a boat with a tower is a little much guys. Lets talk about something other than towers , woofers of other bling that the PN drool over. Sorry this aint the site for that BLING. ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 11:38pm
This is one of those topics on which I must respectfully disagree with the good doctor, bling away.
 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: January-21-2009 at 11:52pm
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I, along with Joe, am going to respectfully disagree with Doc on this one.
This is my bling boat.  ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 12:03am
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Joe, point taken.....
Brings to mind the statement about putting lipstick on a pig. The boat is a work of art, can't say the same for that thing on the top. Will request that this be moved over to that other site tho............. To each his own , and the classics should be held to a higher standard than the bling boats. I thought this site was about the preservation and sharing of the older boats and owners, guess I was wrong. The next thread will be what: Mood Lights and how to install and wire for maximum effect.... How to install fat sacks in a Atom Skier.... SpiderMan Graphics install tips for a Barracuda. By the way Joe, Does it go or just sit on the trailer.You can get a lot of air with that tower being pulled at 65mph down interstate.............boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 12:22am
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We let new boats in too Billy, I mean we can't kick brother Reid out just because he is riding around in a 2009 SN these days can we. As for mine, she used to go but I had to take out the engine to make room for the amplifiers for the speakers and the power supplies for the led lights. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 12:59am
Yes you were. Mike (proud owner of a future classic) ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 1:28am
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Geez Doc, my boat came straight from the CC factory with a tower and will one day fall within the classic category, they have been putting towers on their boats for over ten years now, at what age does one consider a boat to be a classic? And also, guess who invented, holds the patent and collects royalties on every "Tower" sold??
Sebastian, to answer a few of your questions, most towers will fold down to where it's highest point is only about 7 feet off the ground while on the trailer, your existing bimini may not work with a tower so it's possible that would need to be replaced, the boats cover would need to be modified to go around the tower legs, towing with a tower is not a problem assuming you avoid any low bridges, if done at night you will be cleaning bugs off it however. I have had extended pylons and towers on various boats and in my opinion the tower does not seem as affected be a side pull, that however could all be in my head. We pull just about everything except slalom and trick from the tower, it adds great function, provides additional storage and of course is a great place to hang those monster loud speakers! It's a tough call, if that was my boat I might stick with the extended pylon however if your heart is set on a tower you should definitely go for it! 
 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 1:34am
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now now Doc,
i just like the best of both. They are all Correct Crafts, after all. I do kind of not really talk about my Super Air over here cause it is more about the oldies. Which I love at least as much. I LOVE Barbara's Mustang. By the same token, I don't really talk about the Pony over on PN. They both have their purpose and place for my lake time. I do understand what you mean though. But all my boats do say Correct Craft on the side. Mike PS: my PythonBoat has moodlighting! ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 1:36am
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Geezuss Quinner,
Ummm, speakers anyone? Nice, dude. M ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 1:45am
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Any one with 10,000 cash and a credit score of 740 can buy one of those. What about a that is classic?
CC is down to a two day work week and an inventory of 150 boats stored at Orlando. It's a sad day in Mudville guys. Looks like Casey may strike out.I would hate to see CC go under, BUT, They have lost touch with the boats that kept them in the boating top ten for the last 75 years. look in the classisfied and see how many "future classics" are for sale at payoff. Also look and see how many 70's Ski Nautiques,or other models are posted there. How many classic owners on this site own their boat outright? How many here still have a note to meet each month? Not to mention gas ,ins. and maint. and storage fees??????????????? Flame away Chris has thickened my skin......Boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 2:02am
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Mike it may say CorrectCraft, but have you ever noticed how small the lettering is compared to the rest of the logo.
It is like they have become ashamed of their heritage.Nautiques is what they want to be known by. Kinda funny that as they have moved away from their roots, the tree slowly looses it's leaves. Maybe Death is a short season away. The handwriting is on the wall, if drastic measures are not taken they to will go .Outsource them too, will be the corporate answer.Air Nautique's built in China. Not gonna affect my OLD BOAT, I gotta hustle to find needed parts for her. You guys just pick up the phone and make a parts order.What happens when no one answers the phone ?????Boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: The Lake
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 3:45am
Interesting Boat Dr. I always get in trouble when commenting on the economy. Does anyone know, have new boat prices increased faster than new car prices? Are the other boat companies in the same boat? I know that boats are made in much lower quantities than cars and therefore are probably more expensive per unit to produce, but it does seem that boat builders have gotten away from a basic ski boat. I am assuming that is where the market took them, and now it is biting them. I hope CC can hang on; they've put a lot of good memories on lakes and rivers around the world. Chuck ------------- Walk on Water www.coldwater.me http://correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=775&sort=&pagenum=3&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970 - 69 Ski Nautique |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 9:45am
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someone is rubbing off on that guy lol, so there really is a problem with the economy? you get bumped up to the category of "brass nuts" the order is 1.marshmellow nuts 2 wood nuts 3. tin nuts 4. brass nuts 5 steel nuts and finally 6. titanium nuts lol ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 10:04am
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Billy, all the boat manufacturers are hurting. I can't help but think that Correct Craft should have stayed in their old facility. They had their official ground breaking ceremony in November of 2000. When did they build that place, 2006? Talk about poor timing.
3 event boats put Malibu on the map. Take a look at their line up. It sucks. They abandoned their core group for the bling boats. At least Correct Craft still haas the SN 196. Anyone that's heard Joe's stereo knows it's a work of art. There should have been a category for it at Lake George. I've never heard one so loud that sounded so good. When Joe left Log Bay on Saturday, I could barely see his boat or hear those Hi Teks, but I could still plainly hear the words of the music. ------------- |
Posted By: MI-nick
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 10:05am
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i see my boats as workhorses and the tower just improves upon what they already do better than any other boat...pull.
i like new things, especially when they get old...i stole that from a high milage motor oil commercial... ------------- As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure... |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 10:32am
That would be the only thing small about my other boat. They had to leave room for the big 502 sticker. They made 11 of these boats with that motor in 1999. One sank, I know two other owners. That leaves 7 more out there. Sounds pretty future classic to me, really. ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 11:25am
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Well I am not much of a wakeboarder so it goes without saying I don't really like the look of the towers. However, it's your boat, don't worry about impressing a bunch of guys over the web just to keep it original.
One could argue that engine modifications don't preserve the originality of boats either. What's the difference between "bling" on top of the boat, and "bling" under the engine cover? This is no way knocking on you or your boat Doc...from the pics it's a piece of artwork, outside and inside the engine cover. 
Basically this was just my way of saying, "To each his own". I don't ask anyone else what types of food I should buy at the grocery store...because I have my own taste. ------------- Craig 67 SN 73 SN http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport 85SN |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 12:45pm
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[QUOTE=C-Bass]
One could argue that engine modifications don't preserve the originality of boats either. What's the difference between "bling" on top of the boat, and "bling" under the engine cover? The difference being that bling on the top is for "SHOW ONLY" The motor you see there is for "GO" No BS there,331 stroker. Heads, cam,intake,HiTek headers, crank driven raw water pump, bla bla bla. It was built for a single purpose "HP" Dad said it ain't BS if you can back it up...............Boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 1:11pm
Billy's nuts per Eric:
Bumped up to Titanium!! 
90545A041 Titanium Hex Nut 3/4"-10 Thread Size, 1-1/8" Width, 41/64" Height $28.04 Each ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 1:16pm
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^^funny as hell^^
Billy calls it like he sees it, that is for sure. ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 1:19pm
Harder than steel but a little on the small side..  jk
That next sound is me ducking ------------- |
Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 2:02pm
I'm not calling BS on that motor, I'm very sure it could back it up with lots of GO. But that's just it, these boats weren't designed to "GO", they were designed to "TOW". My point was that some may not see the point in making a tow boat with all those guts, they're more worried about how well it performs the towing part. So the way I see it is, if a tower helps Sebastian's storage problem, and he doesn't mind the look of it, he should get one. But if he's doing it to help the resale value, or to just impress the ladies, or anything that's just "for show", then yes I agree he should probably reconsider... ------------- Craig 67 SN 73 SN http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport 85SN |
Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 2:08pm
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Disclaimer:
Not trying to pi$$ ya off Boat Doc, or anyone else who modifies their engines for that matter. I'm just trying to play devil's advocate against your point of view...guess I'm just bored or something. But I definitely think it's sweet watching a modified inboard launch out of the water with lots of "GO". I think it was JoeinNY's video that I've seen which is an awesome holeshot video. ------------- Craig 67 SN 73 SN http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport 85SN |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 2:14pm
Not Titanium - just plain grade 2 steel but defiantly bigger! 90490A327 Grade 2 Plain Steel Hex Nut 4"-8 Thread Size, 6" Width, 4" Height $168.77 Each ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 2:15pm
Well actually, depending on what "Bling" you are referring, there is more function then looks IMO. The function a Tower adds is pretty awesome really, it creates additional lift which greatly enhances your ability to get "Air" or do "Tricks" on any board or a hydrofoil, the additional lift while barefooting is great as well, when teaching new skiers or pulling very novice recreational skiers the lift is also a help, additionally it allows passengers to sit in the back seat for those times when it's not the hard core ski or foot runs where you want a minimal wake/passenger load. As far as the "Speaker" bling, what can I say, there is nothing cooler then rippin a foot run across the lake with Van Halen or Kid Rock along for the ride. As far as CC goes, my guess is they are in it for the long haul, there is no question we are in some tough times, so many I have talked to, including my own business, are down quite a bit, shortened work weeks, etc. let's all hope for better times ahead. Really don't think CC has forgotten about the skier either, Wakeboarding is huge and the demand for that style boat has been much greater then the straight inboard "classic" 196/206 style ski boat. Had CC only produced the 196/206 over the past 10yrs they would have been on a 2 day work work long before now. BTW Doc, the "Bling" on your boat is 2nd to none and very cool! Great comment above "To Each His Own" !! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 2:40pm
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Chris, you gonna pull your boat out to Lake George in September? ------------- |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 2:47pm
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The motor in Karens boat was not built for top end speed. These old boats were very unstable above 55 mph. Mine is included in this statement.
The stroker was built as a direct result of owning and "flying" a 26 foot parasail.If you want to see what kinda' pull your boat has,make a pass with that tied to your stern. Even tho the HP is higher thanmost 351, I was after the "TORQUE" 400 plus pounds of twist.Currently I am running a 12x15 OJ LEDGEND. If Reid brings me his loaner we will see if she can pull a 12x16. The BS stops where the prop hits the water.....Boat dr ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 3:07pm
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My blingboat has 438HP and 500+ ft lbs of torque. I run an Acme 644 on it.
The BS defnitely stops when the prop drops. Not really sayin, just sayin...
Mike ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 3:11pm
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Mike, is that boat in the diaries? Is it one of those red boats with the white stripe that they had at Seaworld in 2000? ------------- |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 3:42pm
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I have not put it in the diaries. I have no idea on the Seaworld question, but I doubt it. If they had BB boats they probably would have been SN's. I have a friend who has that motor in a direct drive. Sick, sick boat. I think all the Super Air's with it were custom ordered as they were a really expensive upgrade at the time.
I am mostly just messin' with Boat Dr here. Havin fun and talking smack. M ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: eric lavine
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 3:50pm
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Did I read right? Karens boat? ------------- "the things you own will start to own you" |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 4:00pm
Any other questions? ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?†“Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.†|
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 5:42pm
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Bruce,
Lake George is a bit too far away to make any plans for me yet, heck who knows where I will be next week? Thinking the boat you are referring to is the 2001 Ski Nautique with a 393 Stroker, there is one in the Diaries. Slayers is the 99' Super Air V-Drive with a Python, same motor as Barefoot Eddie has in the 90' Barefoot Nautique that was at Lake George. Slayer, When I was finalizing the order on my 99' asked what the upcharge would be to go to the Python, IIRC it was $5k or $6k, that was additional from the GT-40 which was already an upcharge, hence we stuck with the GT-40!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: boat dr
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 5:46pm
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Yes that was correct,Karens boat.I get to fill it up, tow to the ramp, do all the wrenchin', upkeep, bla bla bla..........
Each time we are asked I have a pat answer to throw back.....Ask her it is her BABY.... Larry, thanks for the pic, it has been almost a full year.What better place to spend our anniversary than with a bunch of swell guys &girls "WE" met on this site.Key West is THE place to tie the knot, hope to leave from St. Johns and head back to relive last year. Mike, I am not really sure he has a real boat, Barb does but I have only heard about that "BLING BOAT". ------------- boat dr /diaries/details.asp?ID=4631 - 1949 Dart /diaries/details.asp?ID=1533 - 1964 American Skier |
Posted By: WakeSlayer
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 6:56pm
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Quinner. I think it was $8500 msrp after the GT-40. I did not buy mine new. Someone else took the ding on that one. I got mine in 2005,with ~135 hours.
Billy, you are killin me. I will call you when I fire her up the first time in the Spring. That sweet rumble will make it hard for us to really talk, but you will get the picture. ;^ ) M ------------- Mike N 1968 Mustang |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 7:11pm
My stereo was also built for pulling a 26' cloud hopper, with 800' feet of line out it takes a lot of wattage for the flyer to be able hear without straining... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: January-22-2009 at 11:05pm
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^^^^^^^ WORD ! ^^^^^^^^^^^
That stereo cranks! Mike ------------- http:/diaries/details.asp?ID=2219" rel="nofollow - Air Nautique 210 Team 640 hours, not 1 regret |
Posted By: shawnmc
Date Posted: January-25-2009 at 1:24pm
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i love my old "classic" boat and it was a big decision as to put a tower on it or not. You can see by the pictures we chose the tower. I do agree that to each his own. You really have to decide what will work for you and what you want and will settle for. Do I really like the look of the tower, probably not. Do i think it will affect my resale, I really don't care. Does everyone like skiing and wakeboarding behind my boat, yes.
I agree with Joe and at the same time also agree with Doc. Guess that is why they have chocolate, vanilla and chocolate and vanilla ice cream mixed together. |
Posted By: 220nautique
Date Posted: January-25-2009 at 7:33pm
| i think you should go with the tower. before you get one don't forget that it wont fit in your garage and if you keep it at your marina they charge more for dry storage if you have a tower because they have to put it at the top. |
Posted By: Kristof
Date Posted: January-26-2009 at 6:48am
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The opinions on this subject vary as much as the ones about "to foam or not to foam"...
So when one asks for advise on a subject like these, in the end he will still have to decide for himself. ------------- - Gun control means: using BOTH hands! - Money doesn't make one happy, but when it rains cats and dogs, it's still better to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle... |
Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: January-26-2009 at 1:02pm
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Lots of mixed opinions here!!!
For now I think I just keep using the extended pylon.
Kapla.... ------------- <a href="">1992 ski nautique |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-26-2009 at 2:57pm
All BS aside, I would do the same thing with your boat. While it is an acceptable wakeboarding boat, it is mainly a ski boat and I think the tower would negatively affect the value in my mind, when I get a 90's SN it won't get a tower. I consider the 2001 series and the sports boats that appeal to wakeboarders more than hard core slalom skiers and in those cases I would say add a tower if you want one and those people who would be in the market to buy one from you will probably at least not run away from your boat. As for Quinners 206 I would probably order mine with a tower and all the air gear because to me it would be more usable. But, I know two guys looking for a slightly used 206 at the moment and neither one will consider a boat with a tower... which so far are the only boats I have seen available on the site. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-26-2009 at 3:14pm
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Good points Joe!
Really think a common misconception is "if it has a tower it is a Wakeboard Boat". Of course the tower will enhance the Wakeboarding experience however it really goes beyond that as far as functionality. The only negative aspects of a tower in my eyes is weight, which does affect the slalom wake, and depending on your setup the height constraints although many towers when folded are only slightly higher than the top of the windshield frame. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: January-26-2009 at 3:36pm
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I don't think Sebastion has to worry about a tower dropping the resale on a CC in ARGENTINA. ------------- |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-26-2009 at 6:52pm
I agree with this, there are however some people who wouldn't be caught dead on a boat with a tower, kinda like a skiers vs snowboarders kinda scenario.. no cross sport love... ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: January-26-2009 at 7:43pm
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Joe,
As a guy who has installed a tower and taken at least one boat down to the stringers, what are your thoughts on strength, Tower vs Pylon? What about pulling a para-sail from a tower, bad idea? would there be any advantage from a high pull? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: January-26-2009 at 8:24pm
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I dont pull the parasail from the tower, the upward pull is not exactly what it was designed for, its bolted down fairly securly and I doubt it would be a problem but the strength of the tower comes both from the front legs being in tension and the back legs being in compression, its a little different when being pulled up at 45-50 degrees. Plus iI have this irrational fear the threaded pins in the back legs would come lose and with the upward pull all heck would break loose. No advantage to the tower pull really, the extra 4 feet of height dont make a bit of difference on takeoff since you cant actually keep that much rope out of the water, (the person is well off the ground before the rope all clears the water). Once under way you can use the back seat with the pylon if you want.
For straight rediculous pulling strength I would say the stock pylon (not an extended pylon), in particular on boats with engine cradles that support the pylon, is a clear winner. I doubt you can do much serious damage to one of these boats by putting an unbreakable cable attached to an immovable object on the pylon and pulling away. Try the same stunt with a tower and something will give. That being said the tower is pretty solid for most non-rediculous tasks. I climb on and jump off the thing all the time with no real flex, and I am heavier than most. It will sway some underway but I have pushed it pretty hard without worries. While pulling I have yet to hear or see it strain, certainly nothing near the experience of an extended pylon with a good size boarder on it. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1477 - 1983 Ski Nautique 2001 1967 Mustang 302 "Decoy" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5MkcBXBBs - Holeshot Video |
Posted By: Andy
Date Posted: February-01-2009 at 2:58am
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Joe, could you email me some stereo pics? I want to add some things to my 82, and i just wanted to see how it laid out for you.
Thanks! Spridle@comcast.net |