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quinner
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As a responsible consumer what % of your annual income should be spent on a recreational toy like this, 25% -50% or more if financed perhaps?? Me thinks 25% which put's you at 400k annual income as a buyer, that's a lot of dough!!
No question looks aside boat is absolutely amazing, the use of every inch of cavernous space is pretty cool. Never been a fan of Seadek, dealer wants $300 to do just the platform on my 206, looking at this boat you would be looking at thousands of dollars one would imagine to replace the pieces that will likely wear out after what, 10yrs?? Time to replace the skins and Seadek, that will be $10k please, DOH!!! |
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Air206
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I feel the same as Alan. After riding and driving in a GS20, I very much appreciate the layout, driver's seat design and functionality of the design concept. What a comfortable and functional 20 ft boat! That GS20 hull was NOT set up for slalom, however - no place to store slalom skis and the model we skied didn't even have a ski pylon NOT mounted on the tower. But for the Ski Nautique, I'm sure it's amazing in and behind.
The Seadek is excessive, but for those of us who have redone PWCs, the modular appliques make restorations easy and keep the boat VERY functional. There are only a couple ways for a company to stay alive today - small and niche or large and volume. The ski boat market is dropping to a tiny piece of what it was. Nautique is moving in a direction to ensure it's financial survival - I totally get it. I would love to have one (or ski well enough to warrant getting one).... but I'd have to sell all my boats and 2 of my cars. I'm going to have to wait until it's over 10 years old, like the rest of my boats! |
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81nautique
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After watching the videos last night I'm going to go against the grain and say I actually like the look. I think it will grow on people especially if they are looking for a serious 3 event boat. It's not for everybody but neither was the original 200 when it came out Certainly not conventional but modern, functionality is paramount in that type of boat.. The walk through video with Adam W. really helps. As for the Technology, we'll be going on our 6th season with our 200 and I still absolutely love our Linc system, couldn't imagine the same boat in analogue. Still don't care for all that Seadeck though, it doesn't last forever and that will cost a small fortune to replace.
As for the geometric shapes to it, I didn't like the latest iteration of the Corvette either until I actually sat in one and drove it. It felt right looking the way it did. To Gary's comment, who knew the guy that designed the Aztek was so far ahead of his time, He just peaked a little too early and yes I did own an Aztek. I never realized how hip I am until now! |
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phatsat67
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I'm a young guy and that thing is BARF. Yes, the wake looks great and I am sure the touch screen/camera is "cool"?
There is nothing clean or shapely about the design, it's just lots of shapes slammed onto a hull. Seadek is very functional and pretty sometimes but this is over done. The motor box that pulls up some of the floor seems like a good idea. Otherwise it has an ugly but functional windshield, a lower rear step over, higher freeboard for who knows why on a slalom boat? Fuel tank forward seems like a good idea (I would have incorporated a rear trunk instead of a lower step over). 200 stern was plenty easy to step over. In the Indiana market 200 buyers complained enough about the price of a base model 200 and rarely bought new usually going to a promo boat that didn't even come from a dealer. I just don't see how there is any room in the market to sell more than a few of these a year. Good luck anyways. |
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8122pbrainard
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My food for thought is it's damn ugly!! |
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gt40KS
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So I think the verdict here is that it's ugly but probably has the best wake ever and a lot of creature comforts. Well, leave it to a youngster on the site to point out the vast majority of those submitting the "ugly" are the very ones that have old school, and very old school Nautiques. Kinda hard to go with new age stuff when you're brought up with the classics and it takes a certain type of person that will always just go with the current flow. That's usually not me. Though I "flow" a little at times, I do like classic lines. Well, my version of classic. It's different with everyone.
I bought my first boat when I was a young adult with very small kids. It was brand new and I loved the lines and so forth. I would look at the old "classics" from the late 60's into the 80's and didn't really care for them that much. And now looking at all the new designs everyone seems to be copying, I'm not real thrilled about them either. But as I said, it's different for everyone. All the young adults with small kids are probably looking at all the new Nautiques and thinking "where can I get $150k for one of those!!" Food for thought |
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JCCI
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tryathlete
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I’d like to see one in basic white AND open bow. Where’s the dang open bow?
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DVskier
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Nautiques track like a train. Rock solid in the course, most AWSA rated drivers really like to drive the 200. Doubt the changed the tracking. The wake is incredible.
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MourningWood
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Couple observations:
Looks like fuel tank in front and, @ 2:06 in video, boat looks wider than course, looks like it can be pulled off course/off keel. |
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SNobsessed
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I'd buy one, but I can't ski anymore, shucks
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DVskier
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In my opinion the wake looks non existent, Maybe the answer for me shortening the rope, it will have to be at a tournament as I'm not in the market for a new boat. I'm looking forward to skiing one in a couple of weeks though.
The key with the electronics is dump it before the 5 year warranty expires. Also the Sea Deck doesn't hold up as well as gelcoat. |
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rebel skier
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Thanks for that youtube video. Wow!
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Hotty Toddy lets go skiing!
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Bri892001
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Here's barely any wake TO cross. It looks like they got that part right. This was a separate video about the micro-tuner doo-dads that fill in the trough some how: https://youtu.be/vSjLKZ0UV8E |
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shierh
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Notice how high and flat it rides. like to see what it looks like around running gear.
Some boats, my experience with larger craft, are hard to control when they ride too flat. |
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KRoundy
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Amazed at the thought, design, engineering and results of this boat. This is why we all love Correct Crafts, right? Best design, best running, best skiing machines. I can't wait to see one in person and see some other color ideas. The walk through video just keeps giving. All the things I deal with when skiing were touched on - even pulling the plug under that hot engine at the end of the day. Fascinating that they finally moved the fuel tank to a spot where a full tank of gas does not impact the performance so much. Wow. Mind blown.
Not that I can afford one. Back to keeping my '93 beautiful and running strong! |
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Previous: 1993 Electric Blue/Charcoal Ski Nautique
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63 Skier
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Jim, it's pretty clear now a decade plus into the wake boat era that there's enough buyers out there to scoop up the over $100,000 boats offered by the top manufacturers. My neighbor at the lake had a 2000 Super Air in good condition, sold it last year and bought a GS-22, had to be $115,000 or so. And he might stretch the season to 4 1/2 months, but your point is still taken, that's a big toy for the limited use it gets. But, go on any lake in our area and you'll see a bunch of high priced hardware on any given weekend day.
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Lakeview
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With the amount of 2012 thru this model year Nautiques for sale on the used market,I don't get it from a marketing view point-the mid-west and northeast boating season being 3 months if Mother Nature cooperates; how do you justify that cost for a boat????
I'll keep my old original Correct Craft's,they do what I want and are paid for-just my $.02. For those that can afford $100K +, go for it. |
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Lakeview
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rebel skier
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Shape of the stern reminds me of a Tige. The big 3 bows now all resemble each other to me.
I am glad to see innovation and commitment to a slalom tug. I watched the longer video on their website. The ski turning around the buoy to the ski crossing the wake ratio was like a 25:1. What gives, show us wake crossings. |
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Hotty Toddy lets go skiing!
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75 Tique
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My "bag phone" is outside in my Ford Fairmont. Tho I am thinking of finally upgrading. Any body have one of these that can give me a review.
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63 Skier
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Larry's preferred cell phone: |
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MourningWood
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Or maybe the 'younger market's' dead rich uncle's estate. |
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shierh
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Well hopefully that is the mac daddy upgraded paint scheme and you can get a normal one that doesn't look like this with far less seadeck. Put it on floor and platform only
I was wanting to put seadeck on my gunnels behind the grab rail to the rear of the cockpit as a boarding step in place of the original small one but now I am not sure it will look good. |
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Duane in Indy
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[QUOTE=shierhThey are going after younger market that doesn't care about traditional lines in a boat]
Yea, kinda matches Tide Pods |
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Keep it as original as YOU want it
1978 Mustang (modified) |
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JoeinNY
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I can tell you which one I would rather ski behind, or definitely to teach waterskiing classes with. If I am not skiing behind it or pulling people behind it then for sure pull out a classic. I agree the sea deck is fugly as heck but seriously looking at that interior made me think how awesome a summer camp waterskiing boat it would be for climbing in and out and around on full of kids and gear even the ugly walk through and deck pathway. Unfortunately I don't know how any summer camps can afford one but man what a tool for the job. |
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shierh
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Im guessing the photo is of the disguise paint scheme. Hard to tell what it actually looks like. Possibly it doesn't look that bad.
They are going after younger market that doesn't care about traditional lines in a boat. Sort of like going From an older hatteras to a carver or any of the other Clorox bottle designs. ( for some of you, look at a Clorox bottle on its side with handle up and then look at many of the larger boat designs. its pretty funny. |
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NCH20SKIER
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Ugly windshield and what Alan said on the sea deck
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KENO
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Totally have to agree with that |
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75 Tique
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Yeah, yeah, I know, I'm old school. But I do understand progress and improved performance and functionality. But can not performance and functionality be put in a decent looking package as well.
Pick one. |
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shierh
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They added a screen bottom to it as well, coated with Flex-seal.
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JoeinNY
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I just think it is pretty awesome they are continuing to put time money and advertising into a 3 event boat. Does it look as good as a 196 to me, nope but there are plenty of 196s out there to buy. The windshield is ugly but I like the integration with the bimini and I like the side access. I have to assume there is some color combination that is available that isn’t quite so fugly as the white front, black back nonsense..
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