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    Posted: July-15-2011 at 2:05am
for those that have been following this thread titled "what model is this?" i have started a new one.
got her home tonight. needs motor and trans (eric...gonna need help here) the only parts under the doghouse are the turbos,water jackets,intake manifold and a carburator. will get more pics when i start to get all the stuff unloaded.
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Bill,
That is too COOL!!! love the dash!   18 pitch!.... what did it have for power?    What year is the boat? What are your plans?
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i think it was made in 3/69. don't know original power but after the original owner(who owned a chrysler dealership in lincoln,ne)kept getting his arse beat by his buddy who had a "ski" he took it back to his mechanics and had them install a 440 bb with twin turbos!!!. don't know who won the race after that. plan on getting her back to normal some how. need trans and such. have located a 440 but have to get it married to a trans. and have no idea what was in there or what it is going to take. should be fun.
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It probably came with a 440 or 383.
The trans was a VelvetDrive 72c (5" coupling)
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would that be the original prop? thanks for the trans info.
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The prop was made in Dec. of 1975

And appears someone had it re-pitched to a 13x17
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Bill,
Congratulations on getting the boat. It's hard saying what engine the boat was equipped with from the factory. There were many times back then that CC used whatever they could get their hands on and a marinizer that would extend them credit!!

Have you found the boat ID tag? This was before the HIN's were molded in the hull at the transom so look for it on the stringer around where the engine was. With the number, you may be able to get some info from CC.

Al is correct about the prop. I agree it's not the original and was put on after the blown 440 was dropped in. The pitch change was for "dialing in" the WOT RPM's.



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you gonna show that tug or do you want to get it running troublefree?
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i would jump on that 351 with tranny package in the for sale section
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Probably not going to show it....but do have access to a 440 chrysler motor. any ideas what it would cost to get the trans and related items to bolt the two together? thanks
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VERY cool boat!

Best of luck getting her back in shape Bill!
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i see you have a righty, that may complicate things a bit, unless you go with a 1.23 trans
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Looks like there are several 72C's for sale on the web.
From 550.00 to 2,650.00.
You won't want one with a reduction gear.


Chrysler must have had fairly good relations with CC.
The majority of Marauders, Wildcats, Riviera and Grand Prix that I have driven, were all (except for 2) Chrysler powered.
One was the Holman Moody Hardtop in the diaries.
The other a 348/409 Chev.
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If you go with the 351 power w/ 71C you simply change your 5" coupling to a 4" coupling.
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Please, for all things sacred, keep it Mopar!
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so it is a righty...did the 72 turn correctly with with what i assume was a right hand motor?
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looked for tag...no where to be found. looks like there was one by shifter control.
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just sayin, you need a righty nopower motor,
you can spin the warners either way by simply indexing the pump, but forward position on the shift lever must make the boat move forward.
if you do come across a lefty nopower and want to keep it flat in the boat, really the way to go would be with a 1.23 pcm, then you can utilize the right hand prop and keep the lowpower plant level. the ACBS never looks at the tranny's anyways
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got it. from the looks of it, you no likey the nopar.
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not in a boat, it doesnt make sense nowadays unless it puts 100k price tag if all original, which it wont, you can put a small whether a Ford or a Chevy in there and make the same power and run lighter. I really love seeing the older boats with updated power, I look at it this way, in these boats always at the time got the best of everything power wise going into them, why revert and go backwards, move forward not backwards. if the engines of nowadays were available back then, they surely would go into the boats.
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Very sharp looking boat, congrats!

Were the trim tabs a standard feature, or were they added on? It seems like an angled imboard drive gives enough lift without needing tabs.
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Twin turbo 440 probably made that thing porpoise like a *****, the tabs were likely an effort to tame it.
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How well do turbos work with a water cooled manifold. If turbos use the hot expanding exhaust to spin the turbine, cooling the exhaust seems like it would negate much of the turbo's energy source.
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Originally posted by quik225 quik225 wrote:

How well do turbos work with a water cooled manifold. If turbos use the hot expanding exhaust to spin the turbine, cooling the exhaust seems like it would negate much of the turbo's energy source.
Quik -   Turbos work on flow through the exhaust side, not expansion. The faster the the exhaust gas flows over the exhaust turbine, the higher the spin rpm of the turbine,and the direct result is that the compressor spins faster, thus more compression happens on the intake side. High engine RPM will cause the exhaust gasses to flow at a faster rate than low engine RPM. as far as cooling goes, turbos in airplanes get hot enough to make the turbo glow, and that is with a significant amount of cold air passing over them.   You can only imagine what kind of stress that this kind of heat puts on the bearings and the oil. In the doghouse of a boat, with no air movement, water seems the most available method of getting the heat out of the turbos.
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the middle tab was homemade and was not factory. the outside two were maybe original but i doubt it.
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That looks like a great boat and a rare model at that. It's certainly worthy of a 440. It's the same hull as the Wildcat and many of those came with 318's. I have friends that have one and it ran 45 mph and had plenty of power. They eventually repowered it with a 351 and wish they had stuck with the 318. That's a plenty nice enough boat to stick with an older, original type of engine.
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I have sourced a 440 and am trying to find out what in fact happened to the original motor and trans. How "rare" do you think it is? That would be somewhat of a factor when putting her back together. Any other info that may be of interest would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all the comments and info from everyone following this thread.
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Bill, on that hull that model is very rare. I don't know why they called it a Marauder and not a Wildcat. It's not in the brochures and there is only one in the Diaries. Don't let rare be confused with valuable as outside our circle of very enthusiatic fans, there's not a lot of interest from people looking to buy a Classic boat. Maybe someday, but not now. Aside from it being a Marauder, the color is great and the gel looks like it's in good condition. IMO that is a great Classic boat to have/restore and a 440 would be a great engine for it.

email ReidP and ask him what he thinks of it as he knows that vintage probably better than anyone.

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Bruce.
Thanks. I get the value issue. Only a select few even know what a correct craft is and fewer know what they mean to this small circle of enthusiasts. To me that makes them even more cool. I will send Reid a message. Thanks again.
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