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quinner
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Hunter,
Lot's of support behind the reunions, GL in particular it goes from our members who are local to the area all the way to CC. CC has always sent 1 boat and driver (Adam W), last year Adam spent the whole day on the water teaching and pulling anyone who wanted to go, Ken Melloon and Dave Hendricks were at both reunions and brought TONS of giveaways. Dealer support has always been good as well, don't recall any dealer reps attending however. |
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Nautiquehunter
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GL sounds like fun. Last year Lauderdale Lake
had a in the water boat show with 4 OR 5 New boats in the water to test. It helped a lot in seeing what each model had to offer. |
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Nautiquehunter
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Doooooo you have a HD. Havvvvvvve you ever gone to a rally? |
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Hollywood
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Mike, don't question Mike's motorcycle awareness. Too many Mikes and their Bling boats!!!
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Mojo
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We really started the reunions to get the chance for us CC-fans to meet each other, hang out, talk boats and drink beer.. It has, through the years grown with the aid of our sponsors, and interest to get together and drink more beer. Yes, we do have envolvement from the factory and dedicated sponsors, but it is the "CC-fan" that makes these reunions what they are. We laugh, tease the liv'n crap out of each other, talk more boats, and yes, drink more beer... We'll look forward to meeting you and yours here this summer, and a good time is basically gauranteed. Please look at it as a mini vacation with tons of your freinds who have really cool old and new boats. Just keep in mind, this is not a corporate event where you are going to get the chance to sample all the boats that CC has on the market. You will take some cool swag home, get the chance at some real nice CC and other boat related items, enjoy good food, oh and did I mention cold beer???? There will be boats from the 1950's on up and nowhere else will you see a collection of Correct Craft heritage in one place, and that includes the corporate events !!! Bring your friends..... Come on Spring.. Moj |
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8122pbrainard
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Mike (nautiquehunter)
Dave (mojo) Explained the CCfan reunions very well and I'm in full agreement. It's NOT a corporate event and the desire is to keep it that way. Yes, they have representation there but it's not a "boat show" for them. If you're out looking for a boat, go to a dealer. If you want to have some fun and meet a great group of people, join us at the reunion. BTW, the new guys get to bring all the beer!! |
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05 210
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What's a rally?........Bwahahahaha J/K Mike I attend this rally everyday. Only one I've been to for the last 3 years. I'm just poking fun at you dude. You gotta ride that bike for the RIDE itself and nothin' else. The commoraderie is just a nice side bonus. Mojo's description of the reunion is pretty much right on. Believe me if you like to have a great time with a seemingly strange (at first) diversity of people you will love it. More fun & personal than any "bike rally" I've ever been to. Mike |
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rleinen79
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Boat Show:
Green Lake: Boat parade Sunset at the Bayview I think I like Green Lake better Rob (See you at GL 09) |
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Riley
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Right on is right. Better than any group I've ever been with. And there aren't any bad manners, just kidding around. |
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66Skylark
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Hi guys,
I hope everyone is doing well. Tim and Bruce - Thanks for the nice comments about my boat. I imagine the 19’6” Nautique ‘standard’ and 176 had a smaller profit margin than the other boats. I wonder how much that played a part in their relatively short production cycle. With space limited in the old factory, I’m sure it made more sense to dedicate the floor space to the boats that made the company the most money. With the increased space the new factory affords it is certainly an option for CC to squeeze a new ‘standard’ 196 or new 176 into the model line as an entry level boat. I’m sure it wouldn’t be a high volume model, but it could find a niche. I think a lot would depend on the MSRP. Is there any way to cut costs during production? Example: Does it save time and money to use one color gel coat rather than spending time taping off the mold, removing and spraying a second color? Does it save any time and/or money to use solid colored (probably white) vinyl on the seats, as opposed to sewing in colored accent panels? With piping and an embroidered logo a white interior would still look fine. And an interior with colored vinyl accents could always be an upgrade… I’m sure any saving on these examples are negligible, but anything to lower the production cost. Would a consumer buy an entry lever CC over a similarly priced I/O? Or even spend a little more than an I/O for the CC? The CC would certainly have many advantages - better build quality and materials, resale/trade-in value, bigger motor, plus the advantages over the I/O (detailed in the 2009 brochure). Using a 17’6” hull would also attract customers who might have a size restriction on their lake and the 19'6" boat is too big. Is there a market for such a boat? Only CC can decide that… I know I'd like to see it. Kyle |
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burban65
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All,
I am sure that most of us boat owners are to some extent car enthusiast also. Personally, I would rather have a 70 Chevelle LS6 than a new Z06 Vette - feel free to chime in on that one everyone. Taking this subject matter to a car manufacture level I wonder if CC could mirror some of the Mercedes Benz business models. As I am sure most of us are all aware a few years ago the typical Benz owners were a unique socio economic class but today it's a whole different story with some of the "cheaper" priced models they have come out with. I do not feel there reputation for quality has been jeopardized and their reputation sure has not change (if your in college could you get more dates with a base equiped Benz CLK or a new Bayliner equivelant (Kia)? Great topic to discuss and good dialogue from everyone. Steve B. Indiana |
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eric lavine
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a base boat is 44k, with all the options it is 100k, so figure out where they are making thier money...
they have a bottem line, they dont want to sell the 44k boats |
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eric lavine
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BTW, the guys with the merecedes couldnt get laid in a whorehouse, thats why they buy them lol they lack social skills
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uk1979
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Eric
Been good for over 6 years but will keep it in mind should it slow down |
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Donald80SN
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There is a beautiful 176 that just got posted in the For Sale section. It is a great looking boat.
Donald |
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Terp
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220's point here has been echoed in several other threads and that isn't good for CC. Yes, cheaper boats will probably sell better for the next two, maybe three years. But if your customer service sucks you're not going to sell much of anything. I would venture a guess that CC can't bring a new hull or line to market by this summer, so that cruise is booked for the next year and a half (sorry for the awful pun but I couldn't resist.) What they CAN do immediately is initiate a program to improve their customer service, both from headquarters and at the local level. I'm quite sure that come Monday morning they could find a few new ways to reach out to their current owners, reinforcing the brand loyalty that makes one more likely to return to the brand, even in tough economic times. By this summer CC should be able to begin the overhaul necessary to bring a better buying experience to the local level where it meets the new boat buyer and sells that buyer on CC. There's no better time than right now to be weeding out the dealers that are dragging the CC purchasing and ownership experience trough the mud. |
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05 210
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Amen to that.That's not to say I wouldn't take a Z06. My bro-in law took delivery of a 08 vette last May (435hp,not Z06) but well optioned & I must say I was extremely impressed when I drove it. That car is FFFFast and the corners,ohhhh the corners Mike |
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eric lavine
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all i can say is in this economy, and with the other "ski boats" coming up as equals, lets face it the mc and bu's are right there with quality...the powers to be need to change the Correct Crafts sell themselves arrogant attitude, capitalizing a little to long and forgot the grass roots. if i were to buy a new boat I would consider 3 choices, 10 years ago it was one choice.
UK i was messing with the Mercedes commment, use your charm |
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uk1979
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Eric
I know all cool here,keep it up better that than nothing at all, now I know a transmission guy I don't believe what they say about them. More to the point of the post when out in Greece 08 at one of the other resorts they where running 2 new SN with diesel engines, not sure if this is a factory fit or replaced by dealer, may not be big in US but can see a advantage in Euro zone and other high cost fuel countries. |
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05 210
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That is a good point Eric. You can't really argue that MC and Bu do not build nice boats. For not die hard CC enthusiasts those manufacturers could be grabbing alot of potential customers through superior ad campaigns,exposure,etc. I would bet Malibu grabs alot of the "new" inboard customers. Their equivelent boats however are certainly not any less expensive than Correct Crafts.
You can't believe everything you see on the net, but I read that M/C has approximately 3 years worth of excess inventory sitting at the factory if sales numbers continue at the current rate. That cannot be good for them or the industry. It will be an interesting year that's for sure. Mike |
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eric lavine
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uk, its hard to imagine a diesel engine in a ski boat, but ski boats are perfect canidates for the diesel engines, nice pulling torque, better economy, easy to maintain rpms. now...if we could incorporate an economical z-drive...pull the boat instead of push the boat
I know if i was part of one of the big three ski boat manufacturer's, the R and D department would be doing thier jobs and get out front of the rest of these guy's. to get out front you need to get to the next level. I would build a diesel powered ski boat with a z-drive, (the z-drive is the prop in the front of the boat and also swivels to turn) the day will come......i said it before and got a lot of laughs |
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uk1979
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Eric I think your right , I saw allot of this pull system on new boats at London Boat Show and some where not big craft, Volvo stand had complete set ups which are not that large. |
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Riley
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Malibu has become the successful company they are because of Correct Craft. They filled a void Correct Craft left open, both in marketing and price. Although, Mike you are absoltely correct that they no longer have anything on Correct Craft in terms of price. I think Malibu has forgot where they came from and have gotten away from their core, so now they're leaving a void open. MC are just too expensive. $60k at the Boston boat show last year for a blinged up DD ski boat. |
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Behl
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I also heard that MC has a 3 to 4 yr back log of boats in dealer inventory or at the factory. WHY produce any new boats. Some dealers here are sitting on 07 models.
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Nautiquehunter
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Eric I am new to CC but I can tell you from experiance searching for 1 1/2 years to buy a new [BLING]boat.I have spent a lot of time checking both BU and MC. When just looking they all look good but when you really start inspecting its easy to see the differences. I am not going to bash any boat but I didn't take my decision to buy CC lightly. As far as I can see the two top boats are CC then MC. It is true that MC has a lot of excess inventory and their pricing is out of line. They are up there with CC as a top line boat. Its good to look at what other builders offer but when the smoke clears anything other than CC is a step down. PS being a newbie I understand the beer rule what is the brand of choice? |
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220nautique
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That is exactly what I was trying to say. We all know the product is good but they are not reaching out to the first time buyer. They don't need to worry about new boats. They need monitor the dealers closer and train them just as much as anyone in Orlando. My dealer is located at one of the marinas some people don't even know about, not much publicity going on there. |
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220nautique
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I also meant to say that i went the boat show where I live over the weekend. Malibu had an awesome display they were pumping out music and they had big plasmas showing video footage of the boats. They even had professional wakeboarders and skiers talking about the boats with people. Nautique's setup was traditional as well as MC but the Nautique's reps where eating and talking to each other as people walked by. When i got near MC or Malibu i was greeted right away. The music and flat screens didn't impress me but to a new buyer they had great energy, atmosphere, and professionals selling their boats.
Oh yeah, I only knew about the professional wakeboarders and skiers because a Nautique rep told me to go and check it out. |
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Nautiquehunter
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Now that you brought up this point I have to agree with you. I an not a first time buyer and because of my experience I took time to thoroughly check out the different boats. Looking back I can definitely see that both MC and BU market their boats better. I think that CC knows it has the best boats and assumes that everybody else knows that also. It would be easy to rush into a BU or MC listening to what the salesman tells you. Because of the high quality of the boats be happy with the decision and never know what separates CC from the others. |
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eric lavine
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others, buy purely for looks...they are close enough in qaulity to sway buyers, unless you dig in and see the differences, you need something that stands out front and that's where the salesmanship comes in at the dealer level...10 years ago you could sell a CC out of a barn, not anymore
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Riley
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"they are close enough in qaulity to sway buyers, unless you dig in and see the differences"
That's my impression. There all top quality. There's no noticable difference. You got to work on them and take them apart to see if there are any differences. I took the back seat out of my Sportster a few years ago (3 hour job) and was surprised at what I found. I haven't work on a new CC or MC, so I don't know how they compare. |
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