Strut, shaft and prop repair.. HELP |
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doubleup16
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Posted: March-26-2008 at 9:15pm |
So the short story is I was boating with my dad in the delta and he is a civil engineer looking to make improvements and he says lets go out into this bay. I think OK and proceed on at about 20 mph when suddenly we come to just about a complete stop! Look around to make sure everyone is still on-board and then try and asses the damage. Boat goes in drive and reverse no problem, good. Moves forward but is VERY shaky. My dad pipes up and says let me check my depth chart. I say you had a depth chart and didn't check it? He finds out it is ~3' and tidal so it was a little higher because it was high tide. Anyway we were able to limp back to the launch, roughly 10 miles, which I know was less than ideal but was our only option. The strut is bent to the right about 2". The prop is toast and the 3 front stablizer fins are GONE.
I am wondering if anyone knows a ballpark figure of what this might cost. Also anyone in the Sacramento area who can recommend a mechanic that knows our 2001s? Here are some pics of the damage: Fins are supposed to be attached here:( |
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8122pbrainard
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16, Do you have insurance of the boat? You may have some structural issues at the strut mounting. A ball park $$ is going to be very hard. 5K to 10K??? How are your stringers?
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doubleup16
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No, unfortunately I do not have insurance and this will be a pricey lesson to learn.
Stringer look to be very solid. I have not poked around at them but visually checked. This boat has been stored indoors up until last year when it was given to me. |
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81nautique
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Wow, that's some serious damage, sorry to see that.
Makes a strong case for the screws on the fins instead of through bolts, you would have even more problems if they were bolted. Do you have any inboard boat dealers in your area, don't have to be CC to work on it. Hope you're back on the water soon. |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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8122pbrainard
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I looked back at previous posts and found that your 2001 is a 84. I wanted to get a idea on the age before going on about stringers. Depending on how the boat has been treated, they may be ok but may not too! I mentioning the stringers because if you have a problem with them as well, the repairs to them and the bottom/running gears are going to add up. You are going to have to give this some thought but first you really need to check the stringers. Just looking at them or tapping them doesn't really tell. Turning bolts will give you a ideas of the tops but rot starts at the bottom where all the water sits. Drilling through the glass with a small hole saw near the bottom is really the only way I recommend. Had you done a alignment before the accident? Was it good?
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doubleup16
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So you would suggest doing some exploring with the stringer first to make sure they are sound. "small hole saw" would equate to 1"? smaller-bigger. Once the glass is out of the way it will be obvious if they are strong. how many places would you check? How would I protect the areas that are now exposed if it all check out.
Thanks for your replies! |
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8122pbrainard
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16, Yes, a 1" dia. is about the correct size, Finding a easy spot to get to can be a problem! I've used a right angle head on a drill sometimes. Just in front of the engine and around the shaft log are spots. Epoxy resin and a couple layers of fiberglass tape over the inspection holes will seal them up.
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nautique frk
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Send strut and other items to Murphys Propeller service in Norfolk Va. They can fix it all talk to Jeff 800 349 7767 He fixed a strut for me a while back it is good as new call him they will cover shipping for you.
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Morfoot
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Noah, Don't let it worry you too much. The same thing happened to me about 6 years ago. Buddy driving boat as I was boarding behind. Got too close to the shore line and hit a stump. Same type of damage as yours but bent tracking fins stayed with the boat. The stump bent two of the three which I was able to straighten. Ordered a new strut and shaft for about $500.00 from SECC. No damage to prop other than a small ding which I was also able to straighten. Do some searching for shafts on this site or skidim and you might find it cheaper than I did. Might want to look into this Jeff guy that Mike suggested for your strut. I kept the old one that got damaged so might have to send it to him as well to have a spare or sell it here. I DID NOT have any damage to structure and boat has been running straight since with no problem. You can do the gelcoat repair yourself.
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doubleup16
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Thanks for the good words Morfoot.
Once I get the strut straightened, will it have to be aligned with the tranny? Since the screws ripped out of there holes for the front fins, what can I do to fasten the new ones? |
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8122pbrainard
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The strut gets aligned to the hole and the shaft log in the bottom of the boat and then the engine gets aligned to the shaft.
The holes for mounting the fins can be filled with a epoxy and then new pilot holes are drilled. |
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doubleup16
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8122, do you still think 5 to 10k? I know the alignment may take a while but those figures seem (to me) unrealistically high.What would make it cost 10k? Are you expecting stringer damage/repair?
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JoeinNY
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5k-10k would not be unrealistic to get it back perfect paying someone to do the work, especially if your 10 miles back smoked the trans. Low side back to good enough figure fins 3 at 50 each, prop at 325, strut 230, shaft about 250-350 depending on what you want, epoxy, gelcote, etc 200. FYI those holes from the fins do go through the hull into the foam under the battery box/cooler area. If you get the parts from a local marina they could easily double...
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79nautique
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I think what Pete's getting at is if there is a stress fracture in the hull where the floor has to come out to repair it then 10K is not out of line.
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8122pbrainard
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Noah, Both Joe and Chris confirmed my thoughts. I was trying to be very realistic with the price but also gave you a broad range of costs. Depending on unseen (trans and hull?)damage and who does the work, yes it may get very expensive. I did not include the stringers in the 5 to 10K cost. I mentioned them because if they are bad then in theory, the repairs to them and the recent damage may exceed the value of the boat.
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