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Good luck with the Ram.. So far so good with our 2017 1500 5.7 crew cab purchased used in 2020 as an off lease truck. Tows the Nautique like a dream with the 8 speed trans and 395 HP at pretty much any speed. We can comfortably take the "western route" to FL where our earlier Durangos with Hemi and 4 speed trans were less than happy on the huge hills and had to run at high RPMs. 

Only really annoying "feature" so far is that it doesn't allow putting it into gear with the door open and/or the driver's seat belt on. Not a problem backing up to the Nautique trailer that I can move by hand (at least a little)... But the 24' enclosed trailer was a real PIA when you needed to back up just another inch...get in close door, back up..... (yes, even with the camera)... Solution was a 15 dollar 3" seat belt extender... stays in the drivers seat belt receptacle all the time and the truck thinks I have my seat belt on... back up with the door open, no problem...
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Good tip. Thanks. Gotta love the forums.  I found the dealership that is selling at about $10k under msrp on the RAM forum.  My local dealers wanted $5k over + 1800 in worthless add ons.
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Don't sweat the truck Jonny

I heard from a friend whose uncle's wife's girlfriend's son works for Ford that they'll set you up with one of these for as long as your truck is dead

It's the King Ranch Pinto complete with a cow in the background Wink



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Sha-weeeet! 

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Keno----I have seen my share of cows---and that aint no cow in the background!  Hint-Pinto in the photo!LOL
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All I can say is "well duh, that wasn't too smart on my part"  Wink
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Ken's being politically correct, it's a horse who identifies as a cow
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Originally posted by wetskier2000 wetskier2000 wrote:

Only really annoying "feature" so far is that it doesn't allow putting it into gear with the door open and/or the driver's seat belt on. 

You need to get on a good forum and ask if it can be coded. My new to me vehicle does kind of the same- you open the door,it stops and puts the emergency brake on. Found out for mine if you have the right interface you can go in and code all kinds of different stuff maybe this is one of them
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My parents bought me a deadly dangerous pinto when I was seventeen
I’m realizing now they wanted fewer children
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Originally posted by wetskier2000 wetskier2000 wrote:

Only really annoying "feature" so far is that it doesn't allow putting it into gear with the door open and/or the driver's seat belt on. 

You need to get on a good forum and ask if it can be coded. My new to me vehicle does kind of the same- you open the door,it stops and puts the emergency brake on. Found out for mine if you have the right interface you can go in and code all kinds of different stuff maybe this is one of them

I have a friend with a 16 Grand Cherokee that was stuck on the launch ramp for a while because of this "safety feature"

For years she could back it up with the door open, then it went to the dealer for some minor issues and the next day it was stuck on the ramp till some smart bystander said "try shutting your door and see what happens".

A call to the dealer let her know it was a computer software update that they did and didn't bother mentioning that it was done.

Like Gary said, if it was put into the computer, I figure it can be taken out/deleted with the right equipment Wink

Edit      It's a 2014, the 2016 models got a whole different shifter
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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

My parents bought me a deadly dangerous pinto when I was seventeen
I’m realizing now they wanted fewer children
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Good thing I wasn't drinking anything this AM when I read this!
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Back to the purpose of this topic...

Should I use carriage bolts or lag bolts to mount the swim platform on the 65 Nautique?
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Originally posted by wetskier2000 wetskier2000 wrote:

Only really annoying "feature" so far is that it doesn't allow putting it into gear with the door open and/or the driver's seat belt on. 

You need to get on a good forum and ask if it can be coded. My new to me vehicle does kind of the same- you open the door,it stops and puts the emergency brake on. Found out for mine if you have the right interface you can go in and code all kinds of different stuff maybe this is one of them

I have a friend with a 16 Grand Cherokee that was stuck on the launch ramp for a while because of this "safety feature"

For years she could back it up with the door open, then it went to the dealer for some minor issues and the next day it was stuck on the ramp till some smart bystander said "try shutting your door and see what happens".

A call to the dealer let her know it was a computer software update that they did and didn't bother mentioning that it was done.

Like Gary said, if it was put into the computer, I figure it can be taken out/deleted with the right equipment Wink


My '15 Durango "added" that feature when it got updated a few years ago.  At first I kept forgetting to close the door, now I'm used to it.  I don't find it to be a big deal, and when I think through the safety aspect I think it makes sense.  Someone is dropping off the kids at school, forgets the shifter is in gear and gets out to say bye to the kids, nice to know the vehicle shifts to park.

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Originally posted by 70CC 70CC wrote:

Back to the purpose of this topic...

Should I use carriage bolts or lag bolts to mount the swim platform on the 65 Nautique?


Trick question. Swim platform DELETE
Looks better anyway
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Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:


I have a friend with a 16 Grand Cherokee that was stuck on the launch ramp for a while because of this "safety feature"

For years she could back it up with the door open, then it went to the dealer for some minor issues and the next day it was stuck on the ramp till some smart bystander said "try shutting your door and see what happens".

A call to the dealer let her know it was a computer software update that they did and didn't bother mentioning that it was done.

Like Gary said, if it was put into the computer, I figure it can be taken out/deleted with the right equipment Wink

This was a safety recall for the 2014-16 Grand Cherokees,  The NEW Ero style shifter got a few people run over when they exited their vehicle thinking it was in park but wasn't.    They went back to a standard style shifter after that mess.  That young Star Trek actor Anton Yelchin got crushed by his JGC.   The shifter is so weird I don't let anybody back the boat down with my Jeep but my wife and she never leaves the vehicle on the ramp.  Not being able to back up with the door open is a bit of a nuisance but so is getting run over or having your Jeep roll into the lake, LOL.
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 I can see why mfgs are going this route with this type of safety feature. Gorgeous neighbor down the street pulled into their partitioned garage. Thought she had it in park and exited her Genesis.. As she got ready to close the door the car was in reverse and stared to roll backwards. She quickly jumped back in the car to hit the brake but hit the gas instead. She hit the supporting wall between the two stalls SO hard she nearly pulled the wall out off the house with the door. Managed to wreck two garage door tracks with her husbands stall door  barely hanging on by the opener and rollers on the other side.  The driver side doors' hinge was bent so bad you couldn't close the door. Had a contractor out to assess the damage to the house who informed them they are going to have to get an structural engineer involved to begin the work and it's a 3 month wait to get the car fixed professionally.   He was late getting home that day which saved his 4 year old truck because he was tied up with the police because his trucks window was smashed and his vehicle broken into while he was with a client for lunch... Talk about having a bad day.,, 
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Tim how long a wait to get it unprofessionally fixed?  I forgot about that star trek actor- makes sense  but that's on them for making a shifter that's not intuitive,our BMW had a confusing one as well. It was easy to drive around with but when going into something like a car wash it was like patting your head and rubbing your stomach. 
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My wife’s X5 has the same shifter issue, open the door and it’s throws the car into park.  Try to make small adjustments while hooking up your trailer and you can’t move this car unless the door is closed.   The really bad logic in this car is if the battery dies you can’t put this car into neutral to maybe roll it out of a parking place to jump it.   The only way to get it into neutral is to get under the car and tighten a release bolt on the transmission.  Yeah, you have to jack the car up to do that.   My garage is under my home, I like to jump in the car, open the garage door and let the car roll out of the garage before starting it to keep all that exhaust out of my garage.   There is no way to do that in her BMW, if you don’t start the engine you can’t shift the tranny.   Sure makes you love the old days and those simple cars that actually allowed you to drive them.
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I once had a truck with none of these modern safety features.

Coming home one day, I had to take a leak so bad my eyeballs were floating

Was almost home and just couldn't take it anymore.

My wife saw the truck stop in the road out in front of the house, me get out and the truck start slowly going forward, followed by me running after it to catch it and slap it into park. She thought it was quite humorous since it was a dead end road, no neighbors and  nothing to hurt except maybe a tree and the truck (or me running along with that little thing hanging out)

The big question is whether I had that warm wet feeling as I was chasing after it or if the running and excitement let me hang on for another handful of seconds.

I guess only me and my wife would know the answer to that Wink
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That is funny, sad but I can relate, many times I had to drive long distance to get home after road trips, sometimes 2-6 hour drives, driving the car I was fine, get home park, step out of the car and for Christ sake the cold hits and I had to run to the house to avoid wetting the pants.  Never understood how that could happen that fast after being fine in the car.  Asked my Doctor why, he says, you are getting old.  No solution, just you are getting older.  Starting to hate that guy.   
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Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

My garage is under my home, I like to jump in the car, open the garage door and let the car roll out of the garage before starting it to keep all that exhaust out of my garage.  


Now that's just medieval.  Roll a perfectly functioning BMW M5 out of the garage? Shocked

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Jockey or boxer?

Depends…

I'm trying to understand your post.

Did you say "Jockey or Boxer, it depends??

Or were you saying "Jockey or Boxer or Depends"??

Cause if he had depends there wouldn't have been the same rush. LOL


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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Tim how long a wait to get it unprofessionally fixed? 

About three weeks..... She was driving a mini cooper for about 2 weeks then the Insurance company said " We ain't paying for a rental car for 3 months. Starting next week it's on your dime!" That's when the Come-a-Long was broken out and the door tweaked enough so they could close it so she could drive it. I was just over there last  Fri and he still has both Garage doors boarded up with plywood as if a hurricane is coming.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

Originally posted by Jonny Quest Jonny Quest wrote:

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Jockey or boxer?

Depends…

I'm trying to understand your post.

Did you say "Jockey or Boxer, it depends??

Or were you saying "Jockey or Boxer or Depends"??

Cause if he had depends there wouldn't have been the same rush. LOL



Some nice loose fitting Depends Boxers Wink
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

Originally posted by MrMcD MrMcD wrote:

My garage is under my home, I like to jump in the car, open the garage door and let the car roll out of the garage before starting it to keep all that exhaust out of my garage.  


Now that's just medieval.  Roll a perfectly functioning BMW M5 out of the garage? Shocked

I think you may be the best candidate for a Tesla that I've ever met.

Dang, I guess I will have to pull the 406 out of my 1966 Vette and replace it with electric and batteries.  It would probably be faster!
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As long as the seat belt is buckled you can open the door without the Jeep JGC going into park. You get used to it just like the tap shifter takes a while to get comfortable with.
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