2000 Sport Keypad help

First thought was the keypads dead due to it giving us trouble when it had gotten wet on the boats trip here. The green lights light on code number pushes though leading me to believe that the keypad is still okay...

Any dealer or the one the boat came from? And forgive me but what's NSS... Neutral Safety Switch? Forbsome reason I thought the boat would turn over with that still bad. It's a possibility though.

mdvalant wrote: And forgive me but what's NSS... Neutral Safety Switch? Forbsome reason I thought the boat would turn over with that still bad. It's a possibility though.

Yes, the NSS is the neutral safety switch.

Note the position of the NSS in the wiring diagram. It's not in the ignition circuit but rather in the start (crank) circuit.

Diagram courtesy of Tim:

Not sure if the MPEFI boats utilize the NSS in the same way that the simpler carb'd boats do, but if so, if the NSS will keep the engine from cranking at all (its in line with the 12v start signal coming from the ignition switch).

The kill switch, if disconnected, will only keep the boat from starting. It will still crank (and crank and crank).

If the '00-02 keypads are like the '03+ ones, then you can tell when the code has been accepted, without attempting to start the engine. It sounds like youre never getting to that point... so either you forgot your code, forgot how to enter it properly, or it somehow reset itself. I know the '03+ would not accept the keypad inputs if the bilge pump switch was in the incorrect position, but if youre getting a flash of light with each keystroke, then that doesnt sound like the problem.

I know Scott!!! (yelling in agreement)

To our knowledge we are entering the correct code. Granted, we haven't used the code since the day we brought the boat home. It is however, the same code we used on that day.

If its like the '03+ version, that sounds normal... the 2nd light will illuminate once the correct code has been entered. Youre pressing the "start" button before and after entering the code, correct? I agree, that it sounds like youre entering the wrong code!

You left the code entered all last year? So anyone could come up and start the boat at any time just by pressing the start button? Thats like leaving the keys in the ignition.

If the battery was dead dead, the lights wouldnt be lighting up at all, and the blower wouldnt run. You should be able to tell if the code got entered right (all ign driven accessories will come to life- gauges, etc) even if the engine wont crank.

Still sounds like youre entering the code incorrectly! Its possible it reset itself... but dad's '03 never did, and he took the battery out every winter. So I sort of doubt it.

Im in a remote town in a nice area... and generally dont have to worry about locking my doors either. But when the boat is on the lift all week while Im at work, I do go so far as to take the keys out. If yours is locked in the garage, I guess I can see that. I also take them out when the boats on the trailer... I worry about a little kid or a crazy person at the gas station wandering over to the boat and pressing the buttons while Im in the bathroom or some such nonsense.

Thanks again for the help

Got off the phone with a dealer (think its the one the boat came from) He started giving me the factory reset code for the boat and I finished it for him. It's the same code we've been trying.

He votes for bad keypad beings we're entering the correct code. He gave me Larry Shay's (sp) contact info at some CC place somewhere. He indicates Larry is the electronics expert.

Very odd that the keypad died sitting in the garage for a week.

Pretty sure my insurance agent doesnt read this...

Nothing pisses me off more than someone taking the key out of my boat.. the only person that has ever stopped from using my boat is me, when I can't find the key!

Mike, I found that thread I was talking about

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19837&PN=1&title=electrical-we-need-help

Look familiar at all?

Did you ever fully get it sorted last year? It sounds like you might have a buggy key pod on your hands.

Are these things basically a glorified key switch? Or do the tentacles reach deeper into the system?

back up starter he says in the video..hmmmmmmmmm

He has the same code, and enters the same way I have tried.

Show tomorrow! lol we have back up boats prepared...

Brian and I are going to tear it apart tonight. I emailed the youtube poster about how he did his key under the dash. I like that a lot. Really leaning towards the bad pad though.

Don't hack it up that nice boat, the keypad is 12 years old just replace it if that's what they say the problem is.

If you watch that video, the guy had already energized his dash, when he hit his backup starter button.

I wonder if that back-up starter button is as simple as
a constant hot (from battery etc.) > Horn type switch > to parallel wire to Starter relay/NSS

In this case, the ignition relays would already be fired up, so this might not help Mike unless his dash will "wake up" but just not crank the starter.

I agree, though, no sense hacking anything, just curious.

Bri892001 wrote: If you watch that video, the guy had already energized his dash, when he hit his backup starter button. I wonder if that back-up starter button is as simple as a constant hot (from battery etc.) > Horn type switch > to parallel wire to Starter relay/NSS

Brian,
I agree. Your wiring idea is logical.