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Topic: 2000 Sport Keypad help
Posted By: mdvalant
Subject: 2000 Sport Keypad help
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 1:07am
Sportys blower, bilge, and whatever else works but we can't get it to run into acc mode or start. We've tried the code that worked when we bought the boat. The code seems dead. The boat feels like it's in locked mode. Any advice? Is there a factory reset code?

-Mike

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA



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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 1:16am
First thought was the keypads dead due to it giving us trouble when it had gotten wet on the boats trip here. The green lights light on code number pushes though leading me to believe that the keypad is still okay...

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Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 9:47am
Dealer will have a master code I think. What about a bad NSS?

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 9:53am
Any dealer or the one the boat came from? And forgive me but what's NSS... Neutral Safety Switch? Forbsome reason I thought the boat would turn over with that still bad. It's a possibility though.

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Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 10:08am
The original dealer yes. I believe that's how they can test and service peoples boat w/o trying to remember everyones code. Yes,Neutral Safety Switch. Wiggle the throttle back and forth, after entering code for secound time and trying to start it.

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 11:15am
Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:

And forgive me but what's NSS... Neutral Safety Switch? Forbsome reason I thought the boat would turn over with that still bad. It's a possibility though.

Yes, the NSS is the neutral safety switch.

Note the position of the NSS in the wiring diagram. It's not in the ignition circuit but rather in the start (crank) circuit.

Diagram courtesy of Tim:


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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 11:27am
Thanks for the help so far guys. Wish I didn't have to work today so I could mess with it.

1. I'm going to try to obtain the factory code for it today. (Original dealer?)

2. Check NSS

2. What about a bad battery? Haven't checked it yet, just assumed it was good because it was used a week ago with no issues + blower and bilge work fine (those don't take much juice though)

3. What does the kill switch do if it's not hooked up? Should the boat turn over/try to start?


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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 12:13pm
Not sure if the MPEFI boats utilize the NSS in the same way that the simpler carb'd boats do, but if so, if the NSS will keep the engine from cranking at all (its in line with the 12v start signal coming from the ignition switch).

The kill switch, if disconnected, will only keep the boat from starting. It will still crank (and crank and crank).

If the '00-02 keypads are like the '03+ ones, then you can tell when the code has been accepted, without attempting to start the engine. It sounds like youre never getting to that point... so either you forgot your code, forgot how to enter it properly, or it somehow reset itself. I know the '03+ would not accept the keypad inputs if the bilge pump switch was in the incorrect position, but if youre getting a flash of light with each keystroke, then that doesnt sound like the problem.

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Posted By: scottb
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 1:25pm
The blower always works w/out entering the code. As crazy as it seems, it sounds like you are entering the wrong code, especially if you are seeing the green lights when you enter the code.


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 1:27pm
I know Scott!!! (yelling in agreement)

To our knowledge we are entering the correct code. Granted, we haven't used the code since the day we brought the boat home. It is however, the same code we used on that day.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 1:30pm
Hey scott, there are two green lights, one on the left of the code numbers and one on the right. The right one lights on number press. The left one is dark...is that a bad sign or normal?

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 1:47pm
If its like the '03+ version, that sounds normal... the 2nd light will illuminate once the correct code has been entered. Youre pressing the "start" button before and after entering the code, correct? I agree, that it sounds like youre entering the wrong code!

You left the code entered all last year? So anyone could come up and start the boat at any time just by pressing the start button? Thats like leaving the keys in the ignition.

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 1:51pm
Yes Tim, we never entered the code last year. The 90, for all 20 years we owned it never had it's key taken out of the ignition. Why?

Wonder if our code got reset somehow. I'm not ruling out a completely dead battery cell either...

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:00pm
If the battery was dead dead, the lights wouldnt be lighting up at all, and the blower wouldnt run. You should be able to tell if the code got entered right (all ign driven accessories will come to life- gauges, etc) even if the engine wont crank.

Still sounds like youre entering the code incorrectly! Its possible it reset itself... but dad's '03 never did, and he took the battery out every winter. So I sort of doubt it.

Im in a remote town in a nice area... and generally dont have to worry about locking my doors either. But when the boat is on the lift all week while Im at work, I do go so far as to take the keys out. If yours is locked in the garage, I guess I can see that. I also take them out when the boats on the trailer... I worry about a little kid or a crazy person at the gas station wandering over to the boat and pressing the buttons while Im in the bathroom or some such nonsense.

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Posted By: scottb
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:01pm
I thought the code was supposed to time out after so many hours of keypad not being touched.

Wait, just double-checked. That only happens if you don't start the boat w/in 15min after first entering run mode w/out starting the engine.


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:08pm
Thanks again for the help

Got off the phone with a dealer (think its the one the boat came from) He started giving me the factory reset code for the boat and I finished it for him. It's the same code we've been trying.

He votes for bad keypad beings we're entering the correct code. He gave me Larry Shay's (sp) contact info at some CC place somewhere. He indicates Larry is the electronics expert.

Very odd that the keypad died sitting in the garage for a week.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:13pm
I don't know anything about these, other than the Joel mentioned replacing his key pad pod at some point. If I can find that thread, I'll post it.


Posted By: JoeinNY
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:15pm
Pretty sure my insurance agent doesnt read this...

Nothing pisses me off more than someone taking the key out of my boat.. the only person that has ever stopped from using my boat is me, when I can't find the key!

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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:32pm
Mike, can't you bypass the keypad all together and just add an ignition button? It might not be the best long term fix, but will have you on the water cheaper and quicker than replacing the whole keypad.

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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:33pm
Mike, I found that thread I was talking about

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19837&PN=1&title=electrical-we-need-help" rel="nofollow - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=19837&PN=1&title=electrical-we-need-help

Look familiar at all?

Did you ever fully get it sorted last year? It sounds like you might have a buggy key pod on your hands.

Are these things basically a glorified key switch? Or do the tentacles reach deeper into the system?


Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:34pm
Check out this video at the 1:50 mark...



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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:40pm
back up starter he says in the video..hmmmmmmmmm

He has the same code, and enters the same way I have tried.


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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 2:59pm
Not sure how you would go about wiring something like that, but it may help get you on the water since I'm sure you're in the thick of show ski season.

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 3:00pm
Show tomorrow! lol we have back up boats prepared...

Brian and I are going to tear it apart tonight. I emailed the youtube poster about how he did his key under the dash. I like that a lot. Really leaning towards the bad pad though.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 3:07pm
Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:



Are these things basically a glorified key switch? Or do the tentacles reach deeper into the system?


Deeper than the dash buttons. IIRC it's a digital signal transferred from the keypad to the control module (which verifies the code, flips relays to turn the ignition on, etc.). Hotwiring the keypad wires will do no good. All the accessories are turned on and off by relays in the control module. It's a pretty comprehensive system. Converting to a keyed ignition while still keeping the accessories working right via relay might be a somewhat big job but it's been done.

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Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 3:18pm
Don't hack it up that nice boat, the keypad is 12 years old just replace it if that's what they say the problem is.



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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 3:20pm
We might not be hacking it up Alan, after Joel rained on the parade!

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 3:57pm
If you watch that video, the guy had already energized his dash, when he hit his backup starter button.

I wonder if that back-up starter button is as simple as
a constant hot (from battery etc.) > Horn type switch > to parallel wire to Starter relay/NSS

In this case, the ignition relays would already be fired up, so this might not help Mike unless his dash will "wake up" but just not crank the starter.

I agree, though, no sense hacking anything, just curious.


Posted By: scottb
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 6:00pm
$360.00 at WhiteLake, but I'm guessing you already know that by now.

http://www.nautiqueparts.com/keypadwoodgrainportside.aspx" rel="nofollow - Keypad


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 6:36pm
Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

If you watch that video, the guy had already energized his dash, when he hit his backup starter button.

I wonder if that back-up starter button is as simple as
a constant hot (from battery etc.) > Horn type switch > to parallel wire to Starter relay/NSS

Brian,
I agree. Your wiring idea is logical.

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 6:53pm
I can send the keypad and PME (black plastic expensive thing) to Larry in FL and he can check both to see what the problem is.

Don't want to pick up a 360 dollar part if we really need the 1500 dollar part........ouch

Also, called whitelake and talked to a nice lady who had just got off the phone with a guy named Jimmy who was asking about the exact same part for his 2000 ski as I was! I need to contact that guy and see what his deal is. Jimmy, where are you?

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 6:57pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

If you watch that video, the guy had already energized his dash, when he hit his backup starter button.

I wonder if that back-up starter button is as simple as
a constant hot (from battery etc.) > Horn type switch > to parallel wire to Starter relay/NSS

Brian,
I agree. Your wiring idea is logical.


Exactly. If his keypad was totally hosed all this setup would do is crank the starter- the engine would never fire and the rest of the dash would be inoperable as well.

I've often thought "Gee, what am I going to do when my 12-year-old keypad dies?". I'll probably just order a new one but it would be neat to figure out how to manually 1) wake up the rest of the dash/relay system for accessories and then 2)supply power to the engine computer/engine and 3) trigger the starter. #2 and #3 are probably simple to do but I bet #1 is not. I don't know how to tell the master module to just "wake up" without the keypad.

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Posted By: jimsport93
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 7:07pm
Mike, how about Jody at Fla Inboards. Think he is probably busy this weekend, but could probably give you some insight first part of the week.

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Posted By: SN206
Date Posted: June-08-2012 at 9:37pm
Does it have a master kill switch on the gunnel like the '09? Could it be there? You did check the battery right?

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Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: June-09-2012 at 6:20pm
A mechanical backup to an electronic gizmo is ALWAYS a good idea. Number two after you sort out the keypad issue is the backup starter button!


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-12-2012 at 5:03pm
Big thanks to Larry Shea for checking out our start button keypad.

He reports that our Keypad works flawlessly. He says our PME must be toast. Looks like we're ordering one of those.


http://www.nautiqueparts.com/breakerbox-pmeselectyearmodel.aspx" rel="nofollow - PME

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Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: June-12-2012 at 6:52pm
Must be?

What other tests can be done to qualify the PME being bad other than trial and error? Not trying to stir the pot at all, but I'd want to see more evidence before purchasing something that costs up to a grand. Thought I'd ask for future members as I'm sure this will come up again.

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Posted By: scottb
Date Posted: June-12-2012 at 7:32pm
Holy Moley! That's a little pricey.


Posted By: Fl Inboards
Date Posted: June-12-2012 at 7:43pm
Hint! I do have two of them on the shelf used if you want to try before you buy!

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-12-2012 at 7:44pm
Jody, thanks a ton for the offer...

Don't they have to be "burnt" with the code for each specific boat?

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: ultrarunner
Date Posted: June-12-2012 at 9:04pm
If Jody has 'em and they need to be flashed, I'm sure he can flash 'em!


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-12-2012 at 10:06pm
I'm sure glad I have key switches!!

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 12:36am
Good input Pete...new PME on order before Jody posted. Hopefully its the right fix.

Stupid technology. You'd be amazed how important that black box is.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I'm sure glad I have key switches!!


I'll take the keypad system over pushbreakers and bird's nests worth of wire and corroding connections any day! I know one day mine will bite me, but until then I'll truly enjoy it. Progress FTW. IMO the competition has still not figured out the push-button dash as well as CC did 12 years ago. The 2012 Malibus have me pulling my hair out.

The part is 600.00 and you MIGHT have to replace it in this case once every 12 years! Buy it and enjoy the boat for another 12 years. Or more. The summer is short and the boat/system is awesome. Rock n' roll. No regrets.

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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 1:58pm
Still cheaper than stringers.

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 2:04pm
Got a PN discount on it too which saved about 70 bucks so that was nice.

I do enjoy the black box over the mess of wires that usually has to be re-done in your garage after 10 years. The 90 left us stranded one day due to crappy wiring to the ignition key a few years back.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 2:08pm
I would take the old style push-buttons, key and switches, with a neater/nicer install.

I don't understand why they used the whole "daisy chain" thing, instead of bus bars.

It would be interesting to see a pic of what the newer stuff looks like behind the dash.


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 2:13pm
Should have taken pics of what the box looks like on the inside...basically open it up and it's a computer. Circuit board, breakers, soldering, etc etc

Here's the front and back of our keypad. Really can't do much testing. 10 buttons on the pad and 4 wires out the back. Hard to do diagnostics at home!





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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 2:27pm
Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I'm sure glad I have key switches!!


I'll take the keypad system over pushbreakers and bird's nests worth of wire and corroding connections any day! I know one day mine will bite me, but until then I'll truly enjoy it. Progress FTW. IMO the competition has still not figured out the push-button dash as well as CC did 12 years ago. The 2012 Malibus have me pulling my hair out.

The part is 600.00 and you MIGHT have to replace it in this case once every 12 years! Buy it and enjoy the boat for another 12 years. Or more. The summer is short and the boat/system is awesome. Rock n' roll. No regrets.


Thats a great idea,what are you going to do when they quit making replacements,junk the boat?

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 2:29pm
All you old dudes that don't like technology are being a little ironic posting on an online forum via computer aren't you? Or do you type on the typewriter and snail mail to Keith for him to post?



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Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

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Thats a great idea,what are you going to do when they quit making replacements,junk the boat?


I have the feeling we'll see some kind of wiring harness retro-fit kit, kind of like the Protec to traditional distributor retrofit kit.


Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 3:50pm
I run across old electronic controls and drives on a monthly basis. I'm lucky to have found a decent repair service. They will troubleshoot and repair any board.

BTW,
Gary has the typewriter plus, he also has a Dictaphone so when I need to send Keith a letter, I call Gary, record the message, he types it and mails it for me!!

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 3:52pm
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I call Gary


On the telegraph?

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Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 4:11pm
Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I call Gary


On the telegraph?

Mike,
No, I went pretty high tech. Gary being with AT&T for so many years did me a favor an wired me up. I still need to get him over and get the phone into the house. Climbing that pole is getting pretty old. Remember the old TV show Green Acres?

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 4:57pm


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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 5:13pm
You guy's are laughing now but just wait. I just went through this with my Dads Town Car. 2000 with 65K on it the whole electronic dash goes out,speedo fuel and temp still worked. He took it to get fixed at the dealer,no can do they don't make that part anymore.Drove him to Florida and on my way home the rest goes down.Just great now I was afraid to shut the car off because the security system is in it too.That did not happen and finally made it home. Finally found a place that would fix the assy after I removed it from car. You can't even go to a junk yard to get one because it's coded to the car it came from You can't even find out anything on the web,none of these old codgers use it or work on their car

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 5:17pm
Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I call Gary


On the telegraph?


We used to use smoke signals,but the epa got wise to us.

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Posted By: lewy2001
Date Posted: June-13-2012 at 11:34pm
Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:

Should have taken pics of what the box looks like on the inside...basically open it up and it's a computer. Circuit board, breakers, soldering, etc etc


Mike get some pictures of your old one interested to see what is in there. As Pete suggested they should be repairable by the right person.

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-14-2012 at 1:10am
Pic!



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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: June-20-2012 at 12:08pm
Dad got the new PME installed last night. Boat works like new now. He also said a bunch more lights light up on the dash on a start up and fade out on stop all cool-like. I bet our digital gauges that we thought were bad and replaced last spring would work like a champ again too. PME was our enemy all along!!!

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Bri892001
Date Posted: June-20-2012 at 12:34pm
Glad to hear you got the problem solved


Posted By: Charkin
Date Posted: August-19-2012 at 5:27am
Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:

First thought was the keypads dead due to it giving us trouble when it had gotten wet on the boats trip here. The green http://www.niceledlights.com" rel="nofollow - led lights light on code number pushes though leading me to believe that the keypad is still okay...


Ya keypad will be right and green lights are on


Posted By: Rick
Date Posted: August-21-2012 at 3:01am
My mechanic says it is almost never the key pad.Push the code and the stop button. Do the lights go out? Now. Push the code and the start button. Now push the start button again. Ths should start it. If one light is green then try jumping the starter solenoid. Whenever my mechanic says the keypad is bad 85% of the time a $35 solenoid fixed it. If you have never entered the code and pushed the ff key you have never really turned the boat off. If you haven't then just pushing and holding the start button should start the boat. Good luck

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: September-08-2014 at 12:43pm
Hey guys, long time no talk.

Keypad finally died on Sporty. Confirmed keypad...pull it out of the dash and flex it in your hands and it'll work like new.

New one is on backorder from Nautique. That's probably not a good sign....

-Mike

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: The Godfather
Date Posted: September-10-2014 at 6:12pm


We are looking at the first week in October on the keypads to arrive.



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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-10-2014 at 6:14pm
What a cluster. Remind me not to buy a keypad boat.

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: September-10-2014 at 6:18pm
Funny story HW...

The gentleman we bought that 95 from upgraded to a 2001 sport. Called me when I got home that day as he was going to take his sport out...wouldn't start. Just clicked under the dash.

Granted they had a crazy bad storm downed trees through cabins and ripped up roofs and lightning so maybe not all keypad fault but yea...still annoying!!!

Needless to say, he wanted his old boat back. Felt bad for him for sure....not bad enough however to return the boat.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: M3Fan
Date Posted: September-10-2014 at 6:30pm
Oh, come on. 14 years and my keypads are still going fine. I'll take them over a bird's nest of crimped and daisy chained wires and spade connectors and aging breakers. Smartpod FTW!

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: September-10-2014 at 6:31pm
Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Oh, come on. 14 years and my keypads are still going fine. I'll take them over a bird's nest of crimped and daisy chained wires and spade connectors and aging breakers. Smartpod FTW!


I could go either way. Giggity.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: September-10-2014 at 6:34pm
And then one day the keypad is not fine and you have to wait weeks for a new one.

Lack luster execution on the old design I will give you, but highly reliable and easily repaired!

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: September-10-2014 at 6:35pm
They work HW, just take them out of the dash squeeze them pinch them bend them around and put some rubber bands on them and zip ties then overly tighten the nuts on the back of them when you put them back in the dash and you're good to go. That's our process until the new one gets here, after ski season :) haha

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-10-2014 at 8:22pm
Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

What a cluster. Remind me not to buy a keypad boat.


+1and those bad gauges

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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: September-11-2014 at 11:33am
Keyless is a very nice feature particularly when some of your ski buds have butterfingers with keys aboard boats, lol.

I keep 2 separate codes using 2 sets of numbers that do not duplicate, if a specific number button goes bad I would still be able to code up the ignition. Of course this we be no help if the stop or start button craps out.


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-11-2014 at 11:47am
Or if someone leaves the radio on

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95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: 81nautique
Date Posted: September-11-2014 at 11:57am
Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Or if someone leaves the radio on


Doh!   That was me, ha. Got in the boat to drive and the radio was so friggin loud (imagine that in Quinners boat) I couldn't hear the motor running, turned it down but not off then forgot about it,LOL. Always something when hopping from boat to boat.

You guys worried about a simple key pad, wait til my linc screen goes bad then you'll really have some ammo.


Posted By: The Godfather
Date Posted: September-11-2014 at 4:03pm
Just an update on the keypads, will have them by the end of the month or sooner. Thanks for HW making some phone calls....

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Posted By: mdvalant
Date Posted: September-11-2014 at 4:06pm


It's 47 degrees here in IA right now.

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http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5009 - '90 Ski (sold)
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=5479 - '00 Sport
Mississippi River - Bellevue, IA


Posted By: scottb
Date Posted: September-12-2014 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by mdvalant mdvalant wrote:


It's 47 degrees here in IA right now.


Yes, but the water temp still has to be near 70. Get out there!


Posted By: The Godfather
Date Posted: September-29-2014 at 3:24pm
Key pads are in !!!!

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Posted By: storm34
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:


I keep 2 separate codes using 2 sets of numbers that do not duplicate, if a specific number button goes bad I would still be able to code up the ignition. Of course this we be no help if the stop or start button craps out.


Any idea how to add a code? My "4" button is suspect and since we use it three times we should probably have a backup option.

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Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 12:19pm
CCF.com knows the pads are in before Nautique notifies their dealers

Thanks Dave haha

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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 12:24pm
Hey Chris, don't remember the exact sequence and your model could be different from mine. It's in the owners manual, add one as the primary and the other as a secondary, pretty basic stuff.


Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 12:29pm
Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

CCF.com knows the pads are in before Nautique notifies their dealers

Thanks Dave haha


I guess you dealers need to get to know the right people Zach

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95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 12:30pm
That's what I'm saying ha.

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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: September-30-2014 at 12:34pm
Got any old style PCM manifolds and risers available? I'm getting my car serviced and will call you when I get home

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95 Nautique Super Sport


Posted By: The Godfather
Date Posted: October-10-2014 at 9:21pm
Who's that masked man....hehe

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