eBayhole of the week

I may not be Pete, but from what I've learned it depends on the condition of the frame - if it's solid they reuse it, otherwise, the frame is used as a pattern too.

Pete,

Like the guy on the other thread said, we learn something from you everyday. Never really thought of the concept of a pattern boat before. Makes sense.

Maybe not quite ebayhole status, but still a stretch. I sort of tend to agree with the first questioner, but then maybe I just don't have any vision. Pete, what do you think?



wooden boat on ebay

I've been buying and selling on ebay and craigs list for years and have never been scammed. On major purchases like a boat, car or motorcycle, keep it local or plan on taking a trip. One exception - manufacturer authorized dealers. I may find the deal and dealer on ebay but I contact them through the through the manufacture's website. That's the phone number I call to make payment arrangements. Otherwise, anything private, if it's worth the savings it's worth touching it, seeing the paperwork and then putting down the money in person.

Watch out for star ratings - if the seller has 50*'s and has been buying $5-$10 ebay items for a few months and never sold anything similar to what you are looking at - stay away.

I was looking for Harley Fat Boy - found an '03 listed for $5K with an offer to end auction early - guy claimed to be in Chicago and wanted me to Western Union him a grand deposit. I told him my brother-in-law would come by and give him cash the same day - he disappeared. Three days later the same bike showed up in an LA based ebay listing.

For motorcycles, I've found steals on ebay based on time of year. I was looking at a Big Dog Chopper locally, an '05 with low mileage. New the bike is mid-30's with options, 2years old it's mid 20's. I found one from a Toledo Dealer lelivered to NJ for high teens with NO mileage (about 350 miles on it).

My 2005 Ski Nautique 226LTD was a leftover on the internet this June with only 10hrs on it on a new Eagle tandem trailer. I called the dealer who was asking $44K to get rid of it to make room for his 2007's and I sent him a downpayment as fast as I could - again, factory Authorized dealer.

I only buy site unseen from factory authorized dealers, and even they dump stuff cheap if you catch them at the right time. Patience is the key - you might have to search ebay every day for months, but in the end if you are careful, you can make out.

I refuse to give a deposit on a vehicle. Most all people I have done business with on ebay are willing to wait a couple days for me to come pick up the item and pay in full. I make arrangements for this to happen before I win though. If they are not willing to go along with terms I am comfortable with I stop bidding.

Its not just ebay... I have a old 1950s boat trailer advertised on Craigslist. Heres a copy of an email I got in response to the ad the other day...

   Hello
i am much intreseted in the item.....you advertised on craigslist for
sale and i will like to buy it, the condition is ok by me and i think the
price is fair., my mode of payment would be by check and the pick up would
be arrange by me.i will like to purchase your boat to replace my damaged boat
but presently am not around.pls i will
like to know how much you will sell these musical instrument to me last. if
you are ok with this please send me the following informations so that i
can mail out the payment ASAP, Full name........Home and mobile
phone.......Home address........city   and state........zip
code........please go and withdrawl the advert on net to avoid ,
disturbance as i have believe its almost mine now. Please mail me
ASAP to let me know if you are ok with this. regards .Thanks and God
Bless you
Tom

    In case your wondering, I DIDNT reply back...In fact , it looks like he got this ad confused with someone elses when he makes reference to musical instruments.

8122pbrainard wrote: Hollywood wrote: Possibly a scam, I reported it item to eBay. Notice that all the text is pasted in, you can't highlight anything. What would some of the scams be? How would someone gain with a listing like this? I'm just not that familiar with the Ebay process!

Pete, There are boats listed everyday that are scams, you can tell just from the way they're listed and most are pulled within a day.

The scam is that most require atleast partial payment once a bid is won, so you open yourself up to paying for something that the seller may not even have. There are recourses to get your money back but I would bet most scammers cover their tracks pretty good.

Bottom line, if the deals too good to be true, it probably isn't. Gotta be careful and when bidding on something of value talk to the seller in person.

75 Tique wrote:    (kind of like Cher or Liberace) now that is really impressive!!

To be be put in the same catagory as these celebs Billy, I'd be a little worried.

My chevy starter is reverse rotation. Performance Marine in Houston Tx. built the 355.We never talked about a R/R with a timing chain in the details.I just didn't know there was such an animal.

I haven't seen every possible comb - MY 305
(blue water 198 in the ref sec.) and the 355 4 bolt, is gear to gear reverse rotation with a DUI distributor. (78 ski tique) I've never seen a R/R with a chain. I'd like to thou!

waterdog, don't wish to rain on your parade, BUT....
Mallory builds both types R/H and L/H
Some of their motors use a gear set up ;gear to gear crank spins r/h and cam spins l/h.
this is done in the 454 that 87BFN has....
Then there are R/H that use a timing chain set up,crank and cam spin reverse.Then the distr. drive gear must be cut backwards to spin the oil pump and rotor in the proper direction......
Yes you are correct that the distr. does not care, but there are two different drive gears .

YLM624BV is for right hand rotation
YLM624AV is convetional rotation
the gear is different

Waterdog wrote:     A chevy distributor dosen't care about L/H-R/H rotation the cam turns the same only the crank rotates backwards.(the cam IS cut for a reverse firing order thou)

Doc, you see this? This was my question when we spoke the other day. Sounds like a regular Chevy cam wouldnt work for RR, but youre right- they do turn the same way.

   A chevy distributor dosen't care about L/H-R/H rotation the cam turns the same only the crank rotates backwards.(the cam IS cut for a reverse firing order thou)

one of the nautique "freaks" or "fanatics", can't remember which.

Yes I did, he is one of us, can't remember who. There was a post on our site as to who , what when and where..........
That unsurpassed vault of incredible info has once again opened to reveal more valuable info.Glad I stayed at that Holiday Inn Express