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The Lake
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I can't help it; this post reminds me of a very old joke:
A man is hired to paint a house, but he severely underbid the job. In order to make ends meet he drastically thins the paint. He gets done with the house and gets paid. A week later a big thunderstorm strikes and the paint washes off the house. The painter is contacted by the owner and at first does not agree to make the job right. Later that day the painter changes his mind after he hears a voice from heaven, dramatic and strong saying, "Repaint and thin no more!" Sorry, Chuck |
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lilltechile82
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i'm not to fimailar with fiber glass the wood part wouldn't be a problem
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SkiBum
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chil,
Your boat is not a total loss. Just depends on what do you want to do? If you are willing to spend about $1500 in parts and tons of your time in labor you can revive that boat. You don't have to do everything at once. You can do repairs to the stringers and floor to get you through the season. Or, you could do repair the stringers and floor in 3-4 weeks (depends on how much time each day you can work on it) for$500-$700. Leave the gelcote work for this winter. If you really want then grind of the gelcote in the areas that are cracked. Match the color as best you can and repair. There are many options. |
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8122pbrainard
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82, Hopefully you paid little numbers for the boat!
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lilltechile82
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that would be ten thousand i did a little checking and come acrossed some big numbers
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8122pbrainard
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82, In the land of a thousand lakes, aren't there thousands of guys that work on boats? Have you checked with marinas? Ask around to other boaters if they know someone in the area. A small 1 or 2 man shop will probably be cheaper but find out his reputation first. This is not a good time of the year to have this work done. You may end up getting it mid summer.
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leo0648
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Kodak Tennessee is where I am taking mine. It takes the guy about a month, so factor in that you will be shipping the boat twice. I really trust this guy. He has been working with boats for 35 years and has worked for some of the big boat companies located in TN. He got tired of the corporate scene, so he started building custom racing boats. He also does stringer repair and the pictures he sent show awesome work. He also promised me a warranty in case his work is defective, but he swears he does it right the first time.
The guy I am bringing it to does not want me to remove the floor, just the engine and carpet. He said I can even leave the wiring in so that he can put it back in before he puts the floor in. |
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lilltechile82
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i'm in minnesota were would a guy have to go for that price. i would remove motor and interior and maybe remove the floor but i seen in the skibum project that you got to remove and replace the stringers one at a time. i think i could handle the gelcoat
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leo0648
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That looks pretty bad. I have some gelcoat problems that I am going to tend to this summer, but nothing that serious.
Here are some quotes for stringer and floor repair: Stringers, labor, materials-1775 floor, labor, materials- 860 I think the gelcoat work is something you might want to consider yourself if you are somewhat of a handyman. The stringers and floor are very time consuming, and unless you take an approach like skibum, you might screw it up. The gelcoat will also be time consuming, but if you screw it up, you can always sand it off and try again. |
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lilltechile82
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what is something like this worth the rest of the boats in nice shape
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MaddMarxx
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wow...sell it on ebay and buy another one!!
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87BFN owner
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someone else doing it is going to be very expensive, for that much work.
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lilltechile82
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i saw some other string and got ideas is there some body that mite want to tackle this job
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lilltechile82
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rough ideal what do you think this will cost
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lilltechile82
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what would fixing the hull consist of
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Nautique2001
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The good news is that it's worth fixing a Correct Craft! Good luck.
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bchesley
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I had a stress crack in the same spot due to my floor seperating from the side fo the boat. If you run fat sacs on either side of you motor for very long they will seperate. My dealer said that from 82 to around 86 CC did not put enough glass along that joint. They have repaired a ton of them mine included!!!!! This was someone from Southwest Correct Craft so I am confident they would know. I had four addition layers of glass installed on mine by them to stiffen up my boat. Made a huge difference!!!!
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SkiBum
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That is even worse than my boat. You need to plan for a total repair of the stringers and hull before doing anything else.
Stringer and Hull Repair There are plenty of step by step photos, materials lists, and lessons learned in this string. Before you commit to this project take a look at what you are up against. |
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8122pbrainard
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82, No we are starting to think you have stringer problems. Just as skibum found and posted the pictures of his cracks that went through the gel and into the fiberglass, you may have the same condition. It may be time to start thinking about looking under the floor.
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lilltechile82
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do you think because its been that way so long they look like that
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lilltechile82
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the pic above is the driverside the other side a few but not as bad. the po didn't know much of anything.
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8122pbrainard
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Eric, The twisting idea is why I asked him if the cracks are on both sides. I have the same "bullet" spidering on both sides in the same spot of my Tique. They are right at the corner of a raised portion of the floor-hull under the gas tank. I'm sure it is a stress point in the hull sides.
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eric lavine
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oh, it may be stringers, if its twisting on one side it should be twisting on the other, i think more facts are needed and more pics. the corners are alot thicker and just about bulletproof. something wierd is going on. the bullet cracks looks like something hit on the inside and caused it to spider web.
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8122pbrainard
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Eric, I agree that the hulls alone are built very solid but I'm not convinced that a bad stringer system won't start the stress cracking. He has mentoned that there was a PO but hasn't talked about what the PO told him about the boat. He also has soft spots in the floor and some engine mount bolts that turn. I'm begining to believe that we have another boat with stringer rot. The long cracks in the gel seem to me from the boat twisting in the middle from stringers let loose from the hull.
82, Did you ask the previous owner much about the boat? Are the long cracks on both sides of the boat? |
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87BFN owner
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Those don't look so good. I hope they look worse in the pic then in person. I wouldn't even want to try to guess other then the stringers, but it doesn't sound like Eric is convinced that it is the stringers.
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eric lavine
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these hulls are so rigid even with the internal structure gone i really believe it shouldnt crack like it is, normally stress cracks will be a mirror image, if there are cracks on one spot of the boat you could go to the other side opposite and find them. have they always been there? are they the only cracks? tyou the only owner?
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lilltechile82
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is anyone willing to asume why the gel coat cracked
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I don't have any cracks in the gel on the BFN. Just two bad repairs by po. But Eric is taking care of those for me.
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