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woody26 
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 Topic: Ski"2001" vs. SportPosted: October-22-2006 at 8:39am |
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I've been looking for a good 2001 for a while and it seems like all the nice ones are 12k to 15k, which is fine and I dont mind paying for a nice boat, but I found a '94 sport for 15k. The sport looks in good shape with low engine hours(350)and the seller said he would meet me half way. My real question is which boat has a better wake? I know the sport is newer, nicer, bigger, more storage, less hours and a better engine. Did I just anwser my own question? Also, is it the same hull as the super air?
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stang72
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 11:06am |
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Woody....There are several posts on "wakes" if you do some searching! What type of skiing are you doing? Wakeboarding?
The Sport with those low hours sounds pretty good! Check out the Diary sect. Keith Bagley (the site host)has one of the nicest 2001 boats around for sale under 12K! That one is the Silver Nautique Aniversery! |
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woody26
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 11:13am |
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I just wakeboard. I've read everything I could about thes two boats. I have never seen the wake's put up against each other
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 11:42am |
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Woody-
I have been told the wake behind the Sport is excellent for wakeboarding. Keiths' boat sure looks nice too! |
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stang72
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 11:51am |
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In that case...I would opt for the sport.
Throw a tower on it. The extra storage and open bow room is a bonus. 350 hrs...is very low! The 2001...throw a good wake...but if it's Keiths fine boat...adding a tower would be a crime! |
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great78
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 1:26pm |
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Add a tower to the sport and you have an Air. I like the old school boats alot but havent seen towers that complement them well. I considered a tower for my 78 but with the sport instead. They are great boats for boarding and skiing and when you ride around in one you'll know its the right decision. Good Luck
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woody26
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 1:41pm |
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Keith's boat is nice, but have you seen Robert brown's boat. Both boats would look good wiht a tower,bimini and board racks.
Can anybody tell me what boat puts off a better wakeboard wake? |
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stang72
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 2:29pm |
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No! No towers on certain boats!Keiths boat should be preserved!
However...the sport...perfectly fine! These all the rules(sorta) 
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The Dude
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 2:48pm |
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Do what stang says: search on "wake" and you'll get your answers. They're both good boats and we'd all be excited for you to join the Nautique family.
If someone put a tower on the silver nautique I might pack up the cutting torch, make the long drive to pick up Gary, find the boat and cut the tower into very small pieces. Oh...I'd probably also sneak in the owner's home and loosen the lids on all the salt shakers. |
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stang72
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 3:08pm |
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The Dude...
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bkhallpass
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 3:19pm |
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Woody, both boats can put out excellent wakeboard wakes.
The 82-89 Ski Nautiques have become beloved as wakeboard boats because they can be purchased relatively inexpensively, put out a better wakeboard wake than any of the older ski boats, and are Nautiques. On the downside, the 82-89 were constructed with wood in the floors and stringers. As such, they are subject to rot. The 94 Sport can be an excellent wakeboard boat. It has composite construction, meaning it has no wood in the floors or stringers. It has more room for people, gear and fatsacs. In my opinion, it is also a little more stable than the 82-89 SN when loaded up with a bunch of weight. When empty, the Ski Nautique will always handle a little better than the Sport Nautique. I don't know that either boat has a better wake than the other. The 82-89 might be slightly steeper and narrower. However, you can always ride on a longer rope if you want a wider wake. I have seen world cla$$ riders go big on both boats. It's more about the rider, and the owners personal preference, than the wake. If it were me, I'd go with the 94. Newer boat, bigger boat, no wood. BKH |
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woody26
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 4:41pm |
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If it were me, I'd go with the 94. Newer boat, bigger boat, no wood. BKH
I am leaning toward the sport for the same reasons. |
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Posted: October-22-2006 at 8:44pm |
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If your talking even money I agree there is no question the 94 is the way to go, but if you can't find a nice 2001 for 8k your just not looking hard enough, still probably worth it to pick up a sport for 15, but to me 8k is cash and 15k is a loan...
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woody26
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 6:09am |
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Also the boat is located in central N.C. and the guy says he dosn't winterize it. Should I be concerned about it.
How much weight do I need to use to get a good wake and keep in mind I am far from a pro. I was thinking that I would use 5-600 lbs of lead and just trailer it the five min. I live from the river. |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 9:44am |
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As long as it hasn't frozen I wouldn't be worried about it. I would say in NC, in a garage, probably wouldn't need to winterize...
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 1:21pm |
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It's not in a garage. It has a roof, but no sides.
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 2:42pm |
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If he drained the water from the block and mannifolds there would be no chance of freezing the block.
The previous owner of my CC did not winterize the last two years. He had it in a garage and he did drain the block, but did not even drain the manifolds (he said he couldn't get the plugs out?) and everything is fine. No cracked block here, and I am in NE Ohio. From what I understand It has to be well below freezing for a few days before it will freeze. BTW - I have to agree with The Dude on the issue of the tower on the Silver. Well put Dude! AS long as the block is not cracked etc. (No water mixed in the oil... I would say in NC. It would be fine... just my $.02 Take it out and run it before you buy, if all seems good. Go for it |
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 2:52pm |
NOT TRUE! There are voids in the engine where the water can freeze. This is why you should winterize it under pressure (running) when you winterize it. Make sure you check the transmission cooler, the casting below the water pump, the water pump, and thermostat housing. Tim |
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woody26
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 3:19pm |
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He said that it would get cold but never stay cold, so there was no need to winterize.
I think I may have found a better boat anyway. 95 Sport with 161 hours for 15,500 and it's a correct craft dealer selling the boat. I tried to call them, but it's closed on mondays. Should I worry about the low hours and the boat mabey sitting alot? It has the 255 hp engine and the 94 has the 310hp, does it matter? |
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Randy_in_Ohio
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 3:46pm |
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NOT TRUE! There are voids in the engine where the water can freeze. This is why you should winterize it under pressure (running) when you winterize it. Make sure you check the transmission cooler, the casting below the water pump, the water pump, and thermostat housing. Tim[/QUOTE] OK OK I was just going by what I have read here... I have read others only drain the block and mannifolds... that the antifreeze is really only for corrosion protection. but what you say make sense. I know I will always winterize mine with antifreeze. Tim- What do you mean when you say under pressure (running). Do you mean suck the antifreeze up with the intake hose while it is running. I know I have read alot of people pour the antifreeze down the hose with the engine off. I havn't done mine yet and still trying to determine which way is best... |
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 4:02pm |
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You didnt mis-speak Randy. If you successfully drain the block and manifolds, you dont need to refill with antifreeze. You do want to make sure you get all the water though- tranny cooler, water pump and strainer are key spots.
I fill my block with antifreeze, but I think my boat was simply drained prior to me owning it. I fill it rather than draw it in- not sure what behindpropellor is referring to when he says "under pressure." Can you clarify? |
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 5:07pm |
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When the fluid travels through the block it fills several voids and will mix with the water that will not drain if you simply just drain it.
Running the antifreeze into it will keep these voids from freezing and also give you corrosion protection. Yes....it needs to get really cold to crack the block in this situation...but it is easy to avoid. Tim |
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 5:12pm |
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So, by "under pressure" you simply mean filling the block with antifreeze?
I agree, its cheap insurance. The corrosion protection is a bonus. |
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 5:14pm |
OK OK I was just going by what I have read here... I have read others only drain the block and mannifolds... that the antifreeze is really only for corrosion protection. but what you say make sense. I know I will always winterize mine with antifreeze. Tim- What do you mean when you say under pressure (running). Do you mean suck the antifreeze up with the intake hose while it is running. I know I have read alot of people pour the antifreeze down the hose with the engine off. I havn't done mine yet and still trying to determine which way is best...[/QUOTE] Randy- I typically have two 5 gallon buckets. One with the antifreeze solution in it and another with the fresh water ( garden hose running into it, yes you have to watch the level) . Pull the water intake hose off at the water strainer and stick it in the clean bucket to run it. If you have a hot water shower you can dump that into the fresh water bucket to heat the engine quicker. When the engine is warm, turn off the hot water shower, block off the PSS (if you have one) and then switch the hose to the solution bucket. Once you do that you can spray in the carb (while it is running) with the fogging oil. Kill the engine as the antifeeze runs out and you are done. Check the block for anti-freeze and put it away. Just make sure your temp is up to 160 when you switch buckets! Tim |
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 5:16pm |
Yes filling the block, but it also has some pressure via the pump rather than just filling it with a funnel and hoping all of the voids are full. Tim |
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 5:34pm |
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By using your method, you stand the risk of diluting the mixture. Its a much better practice to drain the block and manifolds of water before refilling with antifreeze. Thats the method PCM recommends, you use less antifreeze and its much simpler to do. If you raise the hose used for filling above the height of the motor, gravity will make sure all the voids are filled. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Posted: October-23-2006 at 5:59pm |
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Well...
You do it your way, I'll do it my way. Makes no difference to me. Tim |
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Posted: October-24-2006 at 2:53pm |
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My dealer doeas not add anti freeze to the motor, (NH)just drain and leave plugs out.
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Posted: October-24-2006 at 3:26pm |
because he wants the rebuild job in the future after the block corroids, scales up and cracks, it's cast iron its going to rust internally laying up empty four months in high moisture enviroment. waiste of time sucking up through pick-up with out the t-stat open, so if you have to remove the t-stat anyway its a lot easier, quicker, won"t be deluted in area's and takes half as much anti-freeze to get the job done. |
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