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    Posted: October-15-2015 at 10:55pm
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Thanks for the interest in the winterizing methods. It sounds like you have done your research so good luck with your own winterizing. If anything does come up, we're here. I sure hope people don't follow that youtube vid since I sure don't like the fact that he didn't make a point of draining first. .


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Thanks for your feedback! Yes, I read the thread and the owners manual. I just saw that video and thought I would see what members opinions are on it. It seemed like the guy in the video was cutting corners.
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Originally posted by wawasee wawasee wrote:

I am new here and recently purchased 95 Sport Nautique. We always had a mechanic winterize our previous Nautiques, however, I am wondering if this method of winterization is good or bad. Looking to do this myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb9IdS-Z3DEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb9IdS-Z3DE

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Well, the method may work but, he didn't drain the block first!! Do you want to take a chance that there isn't any water still in the engine? I sure would not. Do understand that RV antifreeze is NOT meant to be diluted!! Did you read this thread? Have you looked at your owners manual?


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I am new here and recently purchased 95 Sport Nautique. We always had a mechanic winterize our previous Nautiques, however, I am wondering if this method of winterization is good or bad. Looking to do this myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb9IdS-Z3DEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb9IdS-Z3DE
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Originally posted by Frankenotter Frankenotter wrote:

I fill my engine with Jell-O shots so it's ready in spring.

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Make sure there's enough vodka to bring the burst point down to -50 just in case there's some water still in the engine. What flavor do you prefer?   


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I fill my engine with Jell-O shots so it's ready in spring.
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Kostas,
Some try to fill the block and in my opinion that's just a waste of antifreeze. Think about the drain only method that has been used for years, still is and works. If the engine is drained, the addition of say a gallon is simply an added safety precaution just in case there's a small pocket of water remaining.


Thanks Pete! I would guess my father-in-law did it this way to avoid draining hoses. Going to review the manual!
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Kostas,
Some try to fill the block and in my opinion that's just a waste of antifreeze. Think about the drain only method that has been used for years, still is and works. If the engine is drained, the addition of say a gallon is simply an added safety precaution just in case there's a small pocket of water remaining.


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Pete now you got me thinking.....I was taught (maybe not the right way) to prefill the strainer basket with antifreeze and start her up. While running, pour 2 more gallons in the strainer basket and than fog the carb on the last gallon. Of course I drain the block, manifolds and elbow prior to the antifreeze. Is that over kill? Thanks
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Originally posted by Cumby Cumby wrote:

Hey, ive read some people drive around with the boat on the trailer after they fill with antifreeze. Do you think that is necessary, or OK to just drop the bow some, drain and fill?
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There sure are anal people out there that go way over what's needed! If fully drained, there's no water so there's no need to try and mix it up. Lowering the bow isn't a bad idea since the starboard block drain is forward in the block but, as Chris mentions, it does depend on the angle the boat is sitting on. I lower the bow if it's on a trailer but never if it's hanging in the boat house. Don't forget there is still the drain only method. I did it for years and now just throw in almost a gallon.


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Originally posted by Cumby Cumby wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


BTW, I've mentioned it before that I leave my batteries in the boat but just disconnected.
Really? No trickle charge over the winter
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Today's batteries in good charged condition will not self discharge to a point were they won't crank come spring. I've only had to hook up the charger once and that was after the boat was stored two winters and a summer and it only took a several minutes on the charger.
Be careful with a "trickle" charger. Some will over charge a battery. If you do want to use one, use a battery "maintainer".


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Just depends how anal you are. I live on a hill & got the bow down hill - got an extra quart of water out.   
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Cumby Cumby wrote:

Pete, if you leave the impeller in and do the drain and fill with antifreeze method, do you just drop it in and go in the spring, or do you need to do anything to lubricate the impeller? Im guessing the antifreeze level keeps the impeller submerged...so it doesn't get dried out?

BTW, I've mentioned it before that I leave my batteries in the boat but just disconnected.


Really? No trickle charge over the winter?

Hey, ive read some people drive around with the boat on the trailer after they fill with antifreeze. Do you think that is necessary, or OK to just drop the bow some, drain and fill?

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Originally posted by Cumby Cumby wrote:

Pete, if you leave the impeller in and do the drain and fill with antifreeze method, do you just drop it in and go in the spring, or do you need to do anything to lubricate the impeller? Im guessing the antifreeze level keeps the impeller submerged...so it doesn't get dried out?

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The antifreeze that ends up in the pump lubricates the impeller in spring. Yes, it's just connect the battery and turn the key. I do like to squirt some gas down the carb. BTW, I've mentioned it before that I leave my batteries in the boat but just disconnected.


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So Pete, now that you've got the 25 year old impeller out, you gonna put new in or are you shooting for 50?
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Strega51 Strega51 wrote:

Either way don't leave the impeller in there for the winter. What is the point.

Dave,
It sounds like you believe the BS about leaving a impeller in for lay up creates flat spots that harm the performance of the RWP. I have NEVER removed an impeller on ANY boat for lay up and have NEVER had a problem. Also I have gone years without changing an impeller.


Pete, if you leave the impeller in and do the drain and fill with antifreeze method, do you just drop it in and go in the spring, or do you need to do anything to lubricate the impeller? Im guessing the antifreeze level keeps the impeller submerged...so it doesn't get dried out?
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I usually run my impellers backwards during winterization by hand with the hoses removed to get excess water out of the veins.

I leave the impeller backwards in the housing all winter then rotate by hand in the correct direction before re installing the belts.

This method always nets me 300+ hours on impellers.

My service indicator is if the boat gets a little warmer than normal at idle after a barefoot run. Then I know the impeller is getting a little mushy and needs to be replaced.
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I think it's a good idea to inspect every year. Changing every year is up to you. I think wether you change it or not I just think it's a good idea to leave it out for the winter. JMO.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

No winter removal of impeller.
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I've made several comments regarding the practice of frequent impeller change being unneeded. I'm on my 29th year of owning my 1964 with the 312. I just opened up the pump to take a look at the impellers after at least 25 years. I really wouldn't have bothered since I had no cooling problems but the bottoms of the hoses at the pump where getting real bad. (soft/gooey from the RV antifreeze) No broken blades, some wear on the tips, some "set" on the blades but no set at the cam from winter storage and some blade warpage.











The bottom line is running them dry is the killer and the marina's are spreading BS all over.


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Originally posted by Strega51 Strega51 wrote:

Either way don't leave the impeller in there for the winter. What is the point.

Dave,
It sounds like you believe the BS about leaving a impeller in for lay up creates flat spots that harm the performance of the RWP. I have NEVER removed an impeller on ANY boat for lay up and have NEVER had a problem. Also I have gone years without changing an impeller.


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Either way don't leave the impeller in there for the winter. What is the point.
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OK. RV antifreeze it is. I live in Texas, so In late November when I put my boat up for the winter (December-February) that's what I'll use.
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Originally posted by Jeff N Jeff N wrote:

If you are storing in a cold climate, why take the chance? Drain everything and put straight RV antifreeze back in. That way in January when the annual cold snap arrives, you're not worried about what you might find in the Spring.


Umm. Not following. From my understanding thats what everyones doing.
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If you are storing in a cold climate, why take the chance? Drain everything and put straight RV antifreeze back in. That way in January when the annual cold snap arrives, you're not worried about what you might find in the Spring.
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Originally posted by skiermanbrad skiermanbrad wrote:

You guys that use RV antifreeze, do you mean RV Waterline antifreeze?

Reading from the label on the gallon I currently have, it says:

RV ANTIFREEZE

Getting technical, it's propylene glycol.



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Originally posted by skiermanbrad skiermanbrad wrote:

You guys that use RV antifreeze, do you mean RV Waterline antifreeze?


Yes. You can get it from any parts chain. Ive seen different brands and colors. Some is pink,purpleand blue. Its a safe antifreeze for camper plumbing,hot tubs pools and the forclosed homes often get it too. Its safe to drop in in spring and just fire your boat and go. No disposal.
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I did the Mustang yesterday. I drained the block and manifolds and using the bucket method ran 2 gallons in. I then drained it again and got all but 1/2 gallon back. The 95 all I do is drain the block,manifolds,cooler,and strainer,blow out the heater and v drive with air then fill with antifreeze and drain the block and manifolds again.Raw water pump comes off too.
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Pete I one uped ya. I filled with two gallons after draining then cracked the drains untill I seen the pink rv antifreeze come out. Lol thanks though... really appreciate it.
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DO NOT add antifreeze without draining first!!! The RV is not meant to be diluted. There is NO guarantee that the antifreeze will push all the water out. Per the PCM manual (in the reference section), drain and pour in. It's easier that pumping!! All that I have ever used on any engine is a gallon. It will settle in the low spots.


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