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    Posted: July-03-2015 at 11:47pm
Don't push it, give yourself plenty of time to heal. I had back surgery and felt so great ( best I felt in 20 years) I ended up pushing it a little to soon and I un-did what the doc did for me. Now it's catching up with me again and I'll probably have to do it again in the not to distant future.
Give it time to heal!!!!
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I've been laid up since my last post in March, bad back. Finally got it corrected surgically 6/2/15. Suppose to wait 6 weeks to do anything, but yesterday and today I worked on getting the engine running. Long story short, it runs great, but has a bad water leak from a broken end plate on the exhaust log.. Plus another on the bottom rear "L" connector, rotten steel pipe.. I'm pretty happy it starts and runs with easy fixes..
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A '67 wouldn't have had the Plexiglas mount for the speedos unless specifically ordered that way. Also would not have had the double "love seat" for the judge and boat timer. There was a "jump seat" available, a single seat that could be placed either behind the driver or aft of the judge, next to the motor box, for the boat timer to sit on.
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Trying to see where the instruments go, and the spot I thought was original will be obscured by the observers seat back. Anyone know what was the stock set up? This photo posted by another member doesn't show an observers seat in the way.

Perhaps he has a different observers seat.
This seems like the only location that will work.

I made a plexiglass frame for the speedometers, and to cover all the extra holes from the second helm location. I painted the backside red up to the level of the dash, clear above that.
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Son of a $!#&@. Thats nice. Im sending u teak and putting my order in for one to be built. I had some jack @$!# treat mine like a diving board and it pulled away from the screws holding it on. Ive since repaired but would love an original handmade one to replace it.
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Test fit, pretty good even before routing edges and sanding. This is removable with 4 bolts, so it fits in the garage with the trailer.
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Repainted the white part of boat, too much sanding for me, and damage to gel coat previously repaired. New CF numbers and Ca. stickers. The red part is the original gel coat, still need more sanding and polishing, will need some gel patching, but not too much.
I just couldn't see finishing it without making a swim platform while the gas tank and interior are out of the boat. I love swimming and getting back into the boat from deep water is so much easier with one.
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Swim deck in progress, made my own aluminum brackets, super heavy duty.
Wood is red oak for now. First I made a plywood one, used that as a template to make the oak one, plan to make it from teak once I get better at this. Since these years didn't originally come with swim decks, the measurements and angles are all different from my 90 SN and 88 BFN. Transom curve is very pronounced and compound.










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Pete Ill PM u. I Dont like hijacking this poor fellas thread.lol
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Originally posted by forvicjr forvicjr wrote:

Ive welded them once and ground them down smooth and they cracked again beside the weld.😡 so now they have some give to them.

Vic,
Maybe you shouldn't have ground down the weld? There's nothing wrong with leaving a good weld unground. I noticed you don't have a prop guard on your trailer. They add rigidity to the rails. Also, some of the CC trailers had gussets welded from the main rails to the cross members at the fenders. What did you weld them with and what prep did you do before welding?


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by forvicjr forvicjr wrote:


my machinest friend built me new ones. It took time though he had to work it in on his CNC bender. It is better now but the guide's are not tight to the boat and still allow it to get somewhat crossed up.

Vic,
Maybe he didn't bend them in as tight a radius as the originals? The originals were 1&1/4" scd. 40 pipe bent with a heavy wall bender most commonly used by electricians.



Pete. They were an exact match, he didnt cut them to lenth. Just made the bends. I cut them to match but now the braces that run from the rails to the fenders are broken. Ive welded them once and ground them down smooth and they cracked again beside the weld.😡 so now they have some give to them.
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Originally posted by forvicjr forvicjr wrote:


my machinest friend built me new ones. It took time though he had to work it in on his CNC bender. It is better now but the guide's are not tight to the boat and still allow it to get somewhat crossed up.

Vic,
Maybe he didn't bend them in as tight a radius as the originals? The originals were 1&1/4" scd. 40 pipe bent with a heavy wall bender most commonly used by electricians.


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Back to sanding the top gelcoat back to original color. Good thing I'm retired, this takes forever!
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

Vic, do you have side pipes on your trailer? I definitely know about riding up on a bunk or fender on the steeper ramps, but the guides shouldn't allow you to get off center by more than a few inches, not sure how you get turned completely sideways.


"63" last season I loaded and unloaded without guides. They had rusted at the frame and my machinest friend built me new ones. It took time though he had to work it in on his CNC bender. It is better now but the guide's are not tight to the boat and still allow it to get somewhat crossed up. The wind and hurry and load due to high traffic in and out the ramp makes things hard.Also the ramps here are at a very shallow angle. My front tires on my trk is like four feet from the water when backed in to load.
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Over 50 years!! You might as well go to the closet and get the pillow and blanket and throw it on the couch now.
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Damn auto correct!
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All except the "over 50 years ago" part. I think he should have said "she was 16 and that was over 23 years ago", making the Mrs. the universally accepted 39 years old!
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CBR, that post should score you a lot of points at home!!!
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My wife says the secret is to leave it in gear so it steers! If she puts it in neutral at the last moment (or reverse is even worse) it goes sideways. She taught me how to drive a boat when we first got married. She was 16 when she was driving a Chris Craft on lake Tahoe almost 50 years ago!
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Vic, do you have side pipes on your trailer? I definitely know about riding up on a bunk or fender on the steeper ramps, but the guides shouldn't allow you to get off center by more than a few inches, not sure how you get turned completely sideways.
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Edit.
Responding to "Art" quote failed I reckon.


Yep....
A lot of it unintentional. I come in at an angle but it seems sometimes if I don't hit it just right the Tique will try to go completely 90* from the trailer and hop up on the fenders and or catch the end of the bunks. I admit to coming in "HOT" at times but the ramp I use Has High traffic and wind.Its mostly pronounced on windy days. And I only drop the fenders an inch or two under water when loading. If I'm not in the boat and backing the trailer I drown the trailer and walk it in. To each to there own. I know these boats well and their trailer etiquette is lacking especially with a novice loading. I would just hate to see fourty dollars in steel mess up a three hundred dollar prop. School of hard Knox is the only learning for a lot of folks.
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Thats pretty funny!
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no one gets just how fast these things are til they spot the wheelie bars . then they take their bayliners and run home
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Here is how Phoenix trailers did mine,I wish I could unbolt it,it
makes a great sod cutter when I back up in the yard

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Do see how the boat sits on the bunks and post some pictures. I feel you were misdirected by the PO's mistake. There are several threads on bunk replacement and I remember one even had the bevel dimensions. I also remember one even has pictures showing the bending of the bunks to match the wishbone shape. I think the factories idea was to spread the load of the boat out as evenly as possible. You don't want high stress areas from single point contacts. A fiberglass hull isn't as critical as a wood hull for support as I've seen several disasters of hull damage on wood hulls when an owner decided a roller trailer was a good idea.


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You know, I missed that.

I do like the ease of loading on a low bunk trailer, but have wondered if Ramlin made them maybe just an inch higher if a lot of the clearance scrapes would have been avoided.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

I find myself dragging my guard on a regular basis, and when you do scrape instead of a V digging a groove in pavement it will be a flat that tends to just drag and lift the trailer (really just relieving some spring weight) over the obstacle.

Nice work,.

Thanks.
There is a 8 inch flat of angle iron on the bottom leading edge to act a sacrificial skid if you look closely.
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I find myself dragging my guard on a regular basis, even though I'm aware and try to avoid it, and even though I'm using a drop hitch to bring the trailer tongue as low as practical. But, though it makes noise it doesn't do any harm.

If you are considering modifying it, I think the easiest and most effective way would be to chop both angle members 1/3 of the way from where they meet in the V, lower the angle of each of them, and insert a straight horizontal piece to join them, just as most of us have on our trailers. It gives you more side to side clearance, a bit more clearance from the ground, and when you do scrape instead of a V digging a groove in pavement it will be a flat that tends to just drag and lift the trailer (really just relieving some spring weight) over the obstacle.

Nice work, I need to make my trailer look as good as yours, way too much rust and wear showing on mine at this point.
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OK, I'm all better now, I had some food and chocolate cake.
I haven't had the boat back on the trailer yet, still have lots of sanding to do to the boat. The bunks that were on the trailer when I bought it were just like the new ones I made,2 pieces on each side at a slight angle) didn't know they weren't original. They were very old and rotten. This boat is quite flat where the bunks rest, not like the newer ones, looked good to me. New wood, recessed hex bolts, nylock nuts and new black bunk carpet glued and lots of SS staples under the bottom edge. Should last a long time.
As to the prop/rudder guard dragging on some slopes, good! Better than the prop or rudder. Plus it protects going forward like if you put a wheel in a rut or off a high road edge, or hit a piece of concrete in the middle of the road! No prop guard made no sense to me.
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Originally posted by cbr1000dude cbr1000dude wrote:

Does Grand Poobah mean humorless Chicken Little syndrome.
I've grown some tough skin reading some of the replies I get on this forum, as have others I'm sure. I'll just ignore you in the future, and continue ruining my boats as I please. Perhaps someone else can get some value from my efforts or failures.

Sorry you feel that way but, perhaps ignoring my questions will hinder others as they may have issues without beveling their bunks nor shaping them into the wishbone shape. I asked if you have tried the boat on your trailer to see how it works.



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