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    Posted: September-25-2014 at 9:35pm
Hi, I'm new to the forum and have been looking at 1989 Nautiques. I found one in good shape but has over 2500 hours on it. No major work ever performed on the engine or transmission.

Question: How many hours can the engine/transmission be run before rebuilding is necessary? thanks
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Really depends on how well the engine and tranny were cared for. If the owner did regular oil changes and general maintenance you may be fine. It would be worth the money to have a shop look over the boat prior to buying with that many hours on it.

Can you do a basic compression check on the motor? Is the motor clean?
What's the asking price?

It's a buyers market now and there are plenty of older boats out there for not much money.

What's your budget and what model are you looking into, 2001?




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Thats alot of hours
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2500 is a lot of hours but engines are like people, some last longer than others. My dad's the original owner of his '75 Ski Nautique w 351 Waukesha, the predecessor if you will to PCM. He's running an honest 2800-3000 hours on both engine and BW velvet drive tranny. The boats always been run hard but never "put away wet." The engines strong and smooth and doesn't leak nor burn oil, compression is good, tranny I can tell is getting tired, no doubt there's a nano second lag when going into gear.

Compression check will show if the engines tired or not. Depending on results, you can tell if it's tired in the heads or the pistons. If the boat looks and feels clean and price is right, I wouldn't turn it away. If it's the original owner chances are in your favor. My recommendation is drive and feel othe Ski Nautiques to compare it to. The engines IMO seem to outlast the transmissions.
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Thanks for the responses.

I'm looking for a 1989 Nautique 2001.

The boat mentioned above is still owned by the original owner who claims all oil changes and maintenance were performed as recommended. Was used for slalom skiing only. No party outings.

Seems honest, the boat looks well maintained and clean. It's priced in the 9500 area. That's at the top of my range. I'll look into getting the compression checked. Thanks!

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But at $9500 I'd walk on down to the next Nautique.
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I agree $9500 is very high. Not sure where you are, but here in the States for that kind of money you can get a 94 or later with under half that many hours. 93 and earlier had wooden stringers that were prone to rot. Give us some more details on where you are and what you want to do with the boat. The members here are fantastic and are extremely helpful. If you are in the US check out the most recent posts on the thread "Interesting Craigslists Finds"
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Originally posted by RobertV RobertV wrote:

I agree $9500 is very high. Not sure where you are, but here in the States for that kind of money you can get a 94 or later with under half that many hours. 93 and earlier had wooden stringers that were prone to rot. Give us some more details on where you are and what you want to do with the boat. The members here are fantastic and are extremely helpful. If you are in the US check out the most recent posts on the thread "Craigslists Finds"


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Originally posted by hotboat hotboat wrote:

Originally posted by RobertV RobertV wrote:

I agree $9500 is very high. Not sure where you are, but here in the States for that kind of money you can get a 94 or later with under half that many hours. 93 and earlier had wooden stringers that were prone to rot. Give us some more details on where you are and what you want to do with the boat. The members here are fantastic and are extremely helpful. If you are in the US check out the most recent posts on the thread "Craigslists Finds"


92 and earlier

Sorry too early in the morning. Thanks for the correction!
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At $9500 I'd keep looking.


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At $9,500 it better be very nice, and you better want that year/color boat. Clearly you can get get a newer boat for less money, but that's not necessarily the point.

I doubt the owner wants you taking all his spark plugs out so just go drive the damn thing and get a feel for how it's performing. Hopefully you've driven a few other ski boats before.
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Yeah, I was thinking 9500 is pretty steep.

I'm looking for something small, easy to move, that puts out a good wake without having to use ballast. 99% of the time my girlfriend and I will be using the boat for wakeboarding.   Not looking for a giant party boat. Looking to take out 2 - 4 people at most. Would like to stay around the 5k range. I've read the wake on post 1989 Nautiques isn't as good as the 2001's until the mid 90's sport. Is that correct?

Thanks again for your input. I'm in the US and will checkout "Interesting Craigslists Finds" .
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A "2001" wakeboarding wake is better than any newer Ski Nautique.

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did you ever say where you were located? I've got a line on an 88 (same hull) in ohio for 6K. I don't know the total history of the boat, but I can get you in touch with the guy.
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Really should be able to pick up a clean SN 2001 with a deluxe interior for under 7k. As suggested by others, just add yourself watch list of the "interesting craigslist finds" topic so that you will get email notifications when something new is posted. You can do that by selecting topic options in the upper right of the topic and a drop down will appear then click on "watch this topic". If you are not in a rush you will pick up a good deal. I have found that prices are not that low now, but come December and January you can get a great deal.
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I may be interested in that 2001 boat located in Ohio if vbatla doesn't want it . Any more info ?
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9500!? for a 2500 hour boat...no friggin way. Original owner does not want to sell obviously.
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I may have found a good deal on a 1984. I was wanting the 89 but I don't know if I can pass this one up. Is the hull the same?
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Yeah same hull, different deck. I actually prefer the 84 over 89 plus you get dual exhaust with 84.
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I bought an 89. :) Now the project begins...is there a section in the forum with a basic checklist for someone new to boats? Recommended maintenance? First thing I need to do is change the oil. Is there a particular brand that should be run?   I need to check the impeller along with installing a bilge pump.
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Congratulations on your new boat.
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Vince - Since it is new to you, I suggest taking the time to check alignment of the prop shaft.

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Congratulations and welcome! I ended up going with Mobil 1 high milage on the oil front. This article was informative on the ZDDP topic.
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Thanks for the recommendations! I will definitely check out the drive shaft alignment. I will check out Mobil 1. Is there a particular bilge pump I need to use? I like the idea of an automatic pump.

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Is this an acceptable bilge pump for the Nautique?

http://store.waterpumpsupply.com/rupuau12vodc1.html
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I'd step up to at least 800. 500 takes a while to pump.
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Would you go with a Rule pump?
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New development...When turning the ignition key to the on position, nothing happens. When attempting to start the engine there appears to be a direct short. Is there a wiring diagram anywhere online?   Looks like the previous owner had a direct line from the battery to the ignition switch. Time to dive into the wiring. Does the 89 Ski Nautique have any fuses? thanks
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I don't know if Rule is the best but certainly most popular. I usually stick with same pump as I'm replacing to avoid drilling new holes.

Direct short? Can you give more details. There are numerous diagrams on here, maybe in the reference section or FAQ page, I'm not sure. Try googling correct craft fan wiring diagram.
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Maybe it's just that the battery has a bad connection or dead.
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