1979 barefoot supreme? Questions... *Updated* |
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horkn
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I knew the ts6m or whatever were composite designed, but I didn't know about that model.
If so, that was an even better score than the great deal I thought it was. The one that was posted from CL as a 81 looks older than the one you got, so while I don't know my supra paint year looks, it definitely looks newer. Go out and get yourself a new raw water pump impeller while you are at it;) I can pretty much guarantee the one in it is shot. |
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
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Mrusso94
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Wow! You really think so??? I would be floored if thats true, I remember checking the title against the hull number and im pretty sure the hull number had a 79 in it.. Either way, floors and stringers seem to be in good shape as far as i can tell.. |
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GottaSki
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Check out the last two numbers in the HIN
If its not an 85+, somebody went through rediculous effort to make it look like one. |
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Hollywood
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You don't know your Supremes either. |
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Mrusso94
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Hull number says 79.. Anyone got any pictures of a "true" 79 so i can see the differences?? Also, i know the floors are wood, did the later ones have composite floors to? The wood is still in good shape, surprisingly. I plan to tear into this thing next tuesday at our shop, (I work at a marina). I'm in college right now, and have been looking to get something cheap just to get me out there.. My plan right now is to make all necessary repairs, spruce it up a bit and run it. I've already become attached to this thing i think, so in the future i may go for a full resto. Anyway, I know this is a CC forum but if anyone is interested ill throw some pics up of the progress as i make headway. Thanks for all the great help and info thus far..
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horkn
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No, I know little about supremes. http://www.sixtiescity.com/PopTV/Images/supremes.jpg I bet there are a lot of things that you don't know as well;) In any case, $600 is a smokin' deal for a real ski boat that needs a little work. |
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bkhallpass
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horkn, TSM6 us a Supra, not a Supreme. You were kind of arms down for the jab. BKH
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horkn
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supra, supreme, whatever. LOL
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
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afd414
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I'd love to see a pic of that 460... I've only seen them in few rare i/o's
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dsums
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I have to go with a couple of the others here. There is no way that is a 79. I owned 87 Ski Supreme from 1991 - last year. I had no structural issues with it at all. It handled like a tournament boat should. had a really comfortable driver setup that was better than some boats of the era. When water ski magazine did the annual boat tests it was a very highly rated boat and if I remember correctly the floor was fibreglass panels not fibreglass over wood. I had just under 800 hrs on it and the person that bought used it a lot last summer and had no issues.If you a decent skier that stays at 15 -22 off the wake is not an issue and with an extended pylon it has decent wake board wakes.
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dsums
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Hopefully this will work. Haven't posted pictures here yet.
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Mrusso94
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That thing is beautiful..
I don't who did what to this boat, but it has to be a 79.. the hull number, and the trailer manufacturing date, all say 79. Plus, the dash is consistent with that of the other 79's ive seen.. I have no idea what the specific history of this boat is, but Its certainly starting to intrigue me... afd414- I will post some pics in the next few days as i started to get into the repairs, the 460 takes up a TON of room under the hood.. the exhuast manifolds hang way over the floor. It aint the prettiest thing right now either, someone poorly painted it, and it looks like it spent some time under water.. but it runs very well. Starts right up at idle and just purs.. One issue Im having trouble sourcing the housing for the raw water pump.. I got the impellers but the previous owner busted the plastic housing.. its a jabsco pump, i haven't been able to find this particular housing. Any suggestions? |
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dsums
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Mrusso, Thanks for the compliment. I like to think I kept it in good shape. I love my 196 but that Supreme was a huge part of our life for a long time.
There was a lot of room to work around the motor in the Supreme but I have to think the 460 will fill all usable space. I had 2 F350's with the 460. Had to do the top end on one of them. It is definately a BIG block. Good luck with the project. As always pictures are good. |
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Mrusso94
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The big block definitely takes up a lot of space.. actually a lot more then i expected.. Ill get some pics up as I make some progress..
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Mrusso94
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So i started tearing into this thing over the last week or so.. First on the list was the rudder repair so I pulled the tank rudder and post housing.. Things were a little worse then i thought but i think we got her licked. I ended up tearing the older backing board out, laying some fresh glass down, making a new board which was epoxied down and then glassed over with several layers.. I hope to cut a new whole for the rudder mount tomorrow, then i have to straighten the rudder. Any advice on rudder straightening is welcome.
Someone wanted some pics of the 460.. this doesn't really show how much room it takes up, but its a lot.. In these next two pics you can see how the rudder board lifted.. Pulled the board We essentially made a new "socket" for the rudder mount to sit in and be flush with the bottom of the hull.. this board acted as a mold, glassed in around it and over the top.. Then the board, 3/4'', Was epoxied down with some thickend west system, and glassed over.. Its solid. While i was working on that, my buddy Jim took care of a nice smash on the corner.. All glassed, filled and sanded, ready for gel.. Once the rudder is in ill get her out on the water to test her out.. then the interior will get pulled apart and the top and sides will get some good cleaning, compounding, and wax.. teak will get some attention as well.. I think i can keep this all under $2,000 including the purchase. The upholstery is gonna be the biggest hit.. if it weren't for that it would be under $1,000 total investment.. We will see though. |
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8122pbrainard
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There may be a picture missing so I don't see one of the prep steps. The with the new wood for the rudder port before glassing doesn't show much prep on the old glass/hull. I suggest more grinding.
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Mrusso94
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You're correct I didn't take a picture of the prep, it was all ground down and prepped meticulously prior to the glass, actually the biggest problem I ran into was the fact that the previous owner changed the oil by opening the drain plug and letting the oil run into the bilge and out the drain, so the bilge was thoroughly coated in oil, what a mess.. probably used en entire quart of acetone on it and a can of brake clean to make sure it was oil free. |
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Whitfield
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Cool Thread .... I like the looks of the old boat / brings back child hood memories.
I've got vague but fond memories of going to the Ski Supreme Factory in Tenessee in 1977 (I was 4). I rode thier in my Grandparents car with my mom and dad. We picked up a new 1977 Ski Supreme. Mom and Dad were both avid local tournament skiers and my dad's parents were a boat dealer ~ I think they bought the Ski Supreme in effort to keep my folks together. Unfortunatly by summer of 78 My partents split and I only got to go on the Ski Supreme a few times that summer with my dad and his date. I don't think we ever used it again and believe it was sold soon after. Just spoke to my dad & grandad trying to learn more about the old Ski Supreme and why they choose Ski Supreme. Dad said it was a branch off from Robbie Shirley and Master Craft with many similarities but was claimed to be a better tournament boat. Once my parents split they soon after quit skiiing all together. Their knowledge of the Ski & boat world ended about 1977. *** Anyone got any good pics or Brochure pics of a BLUE 1977 Ski Supreme ??? |
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Michael ....
I'm the black sheep ~ 1984 Dixie 299 Super Skier (350 Chev PCM / counter rotation / Velvet drive) Open Bow. |
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Donald80SN
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Wow,
Great deal for $600 bucks. It looks like you do have wooden stringers. There are probably folks on this site who would love to buy that motor from you. Donald |
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Mrusso94
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Yes they wooden, but in surprisingly good shape. The 460 is cool, but is a bit of a pain to work on due to its size.. i forget how big a difference there is until a get under the hood of my boss's SN with the 351 and i can easily reach the starter, block drains, etc. without any effort.. not the case with this motor. I can't wait to get it out on the lake and tach it up though.
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Mrusso94
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So I figured i'd sum up this thread for those of you who expressed an interest. The boat is more or less "done for now" and has been providing hours for the past couple months, with a total invest of around 2,000, including the purchase. To recap, the boat had rolled down a hill on its trailer, about a quarter mile until the rudder and prop dug into the ground.. the boat sat there for a few years and became the home of many animals, insects, and possibly a few people. There was even some firewood stored in it. I was able to straighten the rudder, and glass in a new board. Prop shaft was straight some how.. The entire interior was redone, and a ton of compounding, teak reconditioning, head gaskets, new windshield, and a million other odds and ends.. the previous pics should give you an idea of what i started with, once all the garbage was removed.. First test run.. Engine had been gone through before, and was put together with a lot of automotive parts.. I made the best of the crusty holley valve covers.. Teak and buffing finished.. replacing windshield and interior.. Ready for action.. (don't worry it doesn't live in the slip) Overall i'm extremely pleased with the boat.. Excellent wake, hole shot is nice and 53 mph. Also, for skiing on the boom this boat is fantastic. No bow spray to speak of.. |
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Donald80SN
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Wow,
Nice job!!!!! Good money spent . Donald |
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Hollywood
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Wow, nice work. It's so cool to see such a transformation. Thank you for taking the time to take and post the pictures.
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8122pbrainard
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It sure came out real nice! Great work!
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skicat
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Great looking $2000 boat!
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MI-nick
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sweeeeeeeet!!!!
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As far as I can tell, I'm not quite sure...
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gun-driver
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You can't beat that deal with a stick. Outstanding looks great and for only 2 grand fantastic job.
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75 Tique
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Very well done. The threads on here that document every step of a job are very interesting but one like this that goes from before to after are almost like a magic trick where the magician whips the cover off of something to reveal a complete "metamorphosis" Again, great job. Just shows what you can do with limited outlay.
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Mrusso94
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Thanks everyone! And Larry, I do like seeing some of the abbreviated "before and after" threads.. Though i think they can be misleading in how much time are put into these projects. I was lucky, I didn't have to do stringers or a floor on this boat, if I had it I suppose it would have been worth a documentation.. Most of the work was mechanical and cosmetic. The extent of the glass work was the rudder port repair, and the smashed corner.. Also had to re-gel the transom and bottom up to the strut.. The time that must go into some of the actual full restorations on this site is un-imaginable..
thanks again guys.. |
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phickman
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Great Job. To really round this thread off to perfection, take some video of the boat at idle, in action, and looking out the back so we can see the wake. You did a "Supreme" job. Up load them to You Tube and post the link.
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