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And, also too, The intent was, to have an easier way to catch and "clean-out" the debris before it reached the trans cooler.

A lot of folks do not check anything but the fuel gauge.
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Originally posted by storm34 storm34 wrote:

Donald, I heard boat doc say he thought strainers would cause more problems than do good. Someone got some stuff in their strainer at GL which is pretty weedy. It probly would have just gone thru had it not had a strainer. Anyway, just relaying what I know/heard.


I have seen several times a so called "insurance policy" create more problems than the issue it was to prevent.
To clarify above statement, the stainless steel mesh strainer was contaminated by so much "silt" that the intake filter stopped all water flow. We all know what happens to the little blades when you dry run.Because of the owner , high temp, the only damage done was to his impeller and a dent in his pride.
All this happened very close to the dock and an quick trip back on the trailer to replace a very damaged impeller, clean out the gunk plugging the screen and the day was saved.
I think the situation would have played out differently had he been in a different location nor paying attention to the temp guage.Any debris found in the stainer would not have harmed the engine in any way, the impeller will swallow and discharge a lot of debris before damage is done to the impeller. Lack of water for any reason means a quick death only repairable by new parts.
I am also one of those that uses no "protection" as Pete stated.I think they are more harm than good.But what do I know?????????????//
   
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I don't have strainers on any of my boats and have never had a problem. Depends on the waters you boat on.


I agree, I would think a muddy bottom (what we have here in IA) and weeds would be a different story.
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I don't have strainers on any of my boats and have never had a problem. Depends on the waters you boat on.


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Donald, I heard boat doc say he thought strainers would cause more problems than do good. Someone got some stuff in their strainer at GL which is pretty weedy. It probly would have just gone thru had it not had a strainer. Anyway, just relaying what I know/heard.
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Nate,

What ever inboard you purchase, please make sure you have a strainer on the water intake hose. The strainer should catch some of those weeds before they clog up you cooling system. My boat does not have one and I am going to add one to my boat. I rode on a 2001 Boat at the St. John's River Run last week and it had a strainer. It was dumped every morning and their was a lot of weed like stuff in the bowl each day. I was very suprised about how much stuff was collected. The Florida water had a lot of weeds in it.

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Originally posted by Netdewt Netdewt wrote:

Every summer I dream about moving "up north". Best place in the world.


Key word here is "summer". Where do you dream about being in the middle of winter?
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The north is pretty cool, my dad and mother are from the north. To make a long story short, my dad is a Nebreska man, and my mother is from Ohio. As you said, both there parents moved out of the north because of those winters and decided to move there familys down to the dallas/ft worth area. My dad has stories of his family when he wuz a boy, they used to spend there summers up there in minnesota on the lakes. He said the lakes and cabins and scenery is breathtaking...
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Yep, I grew up here. I live in the Twin Cities, but my parents have the cabin. They're thinking of selling their house now and moving up there since we all moved out finally. I love living in Minnesota and I don't see myself living elsewhere, but the winters can be tough. The way I think of it, the winters make the summers that much sweeter.

Every summer I dream about moving "up north". Best place in the world.
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Aw you from the lake state? I used to drive a truck years ago, and used to deliver to minnesota.The lakes up there and cabins on the lakes where amazing. I would love to one year grab the fam and head up there with the nautique. My one catch being a tx boy, native, I couldnt handle 65 degree water in august..lol I am used to a bath water in the summer here in tx, and water temps up in october in the mid to low 70's.. Find you a 2001 my friend..
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What lake was that in the Pics?
For thousands of years men have felt the irresistible urge to go to sea, and many of them died. Things got better after they invented boats.
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Steve,
Would agree boats lost there sounds starting in the late 90's. They started putting single mufflers on them.. What is that about? Dual mufflers.. Love to here the rumble taken off..
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I joke with a friend that has a newer Mastercraft that "real ski boats" dont have open bows or mufflers?

Ive actually had a guy come up to us at the dock, after I started my boat, and ask if it had a big block? I I told him 'not quite'...I loved the look on his face when I lifted the cover to expose the big bad 6 banger in my 64.
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Yea the sound of inboards are like no other. I love where I launch my boat, the park surrounds all around, and people watch boats cominng in and going out.. Love mine to rumble out or coming in, and its amazing the inboard sound, and peoples heads turn.. lol
Now those other videos are cool, this one is not a correct craft, but is a old inboard.. I dont know what motor this is but sounds like a 390 Ford. I grew up on these boats. Check this sound out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV5m3pcuuoo This a great sound!!
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

   Even worse, have you ever seen a I/O transom ripped out from a hit? It's not pretty!!!


Definitely not pretty. My nephew whacked something in my sister's I/O. Tore up the transom. Got the boat towed a ways but then it sank in about 30 feet of water. A little air in the bow had it standing up on the bottom. They rescued it and sold it pretty much for junk after they got scared off by the horror stories of what it would take to fix. Someone handy picked it up and got it running again pretty quickly.
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Originally posted by dominyhataway dominyhataway wrote:

One major disadvantage to the inboard is running in shallow water and hitting underwater obstructions. You can hit something with either an inboard or outboard but the damage is usually much more severe if you hit something with an inboard. Typically on an outboard you will damage the prop and that's about it, with an inboard you can damage fins, rudder, prop, shaft etc. Inboards are also much more difficult to handle at low speeds particularly in tight areas. Inboards are superior tow boats though, with much more power, high speed maneuverability, and generally usually more reliable.


since an I/O or outboard motor sit lower in the water than an inboard does, I.E. Draft, if you compare them to a inboard hitting something in shallow water the inboard is going to have a dinged prop the I/O and O/B will be leaving the lower unit back in the water where you made contact with that underwater object.
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Right, right, just don't hit anything.

I did my rock hitting when I was 12. We still have the prop to prove it. Done with that.
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Originally posted by dominyhataway dominyhataway wrote:

One major disadvantage to the inboard is running in shallow water and hitting underwater obstructions. You can hit something with either an inboard or outboard but the damage is usually much more severe if you hit something with an inboard. Typically on an outboard you will damage the prop and that's about it, with an inboard you can damage fins, rudder, prop, shaft etc.


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You mention the typical damage to a O/B (orI/O) is the prop. The same may be said of a I/B. It all depends on what you hit!! Have you ever had to replace the lower unit of a O/B or I/O? Even worse, have you ever seen a I/O transom ripped out from a hit? It's not pretty!!!


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One major disadvantage to the inboard is running in shallow water and hitting underwater obstructions. You can hit something with either an inboard or outboard but the damage is usually much more severe if you hit something with an inboard. Typically on an outboard you will damage the prop and that's about it, with an inboard you can damage fins, rudder, prop, shaft etc. Inboards are also much more difficult to handle at low speeds particularly in tight areas. Inboards are superior tow boats though, with much more power, high speed maneuverability, and generally usually more reliable.
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The beauty of the inboards, especially the old "muffler-less' ones, is they have an authorative exhaust note, without being (to most people ) offensive...

Theres nothing better than starting one of my old inboards at the dock and listening to that 'glub-glub'!

The other thing... if you can control your foot...ie keeping it out of the gas, they do pretty good on fuel economy.....   uhhhh, but with that available horsepower that can be a problem tho..
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"That guy" in the "Testosterone-mobile" usually has his exhaust above the waterline (sometimes even elevated). If you keep exhaust year appropriate and buy a later model (mufflers got more effective with time), you won't be "that guy".
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Is the noise loud enough to be "that guy" on the lake? Is it any louder than a 2-stroke OB?
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this is the coolest take off ever seen IMO!!!

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impossible to match that sound with and OB....
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I like the takeoff sound.

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Inboards! Inboards! And only inboards.. Listen to these guys, and myself, they are the only way to go and fun to work on too. You will love the 2001 model in those years. There are several good ones on here for sale... Hope you find what you are looking for.. Maybe this will help you make your mind up too.. Click on link.. Listen to that sound!!

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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

Nate - You have hit on the 1 disadvantange of inboards - access to the prop. If you get something tangled up in it, you have to dive underneath to deal with it, or else get towed back to your trailer.

I accidently drifted over the ski rope last year & even though the engine was off, it got tangled in the prop. Got it loose, but not without 4 dives. I really should get a mask as standard emergency equipment.

Even with this disadvantage, I would not go back to a OB or IO.


One trick for this I found this summer: at least in my boat that has the removable swim platform: the major pain for getting the rope out is the diving under the boat then go again for some air..etc..and starting all over again. But if you remove the platform the prop is almost there so you can work it in the water but no need to dive under the boat, and you can go all the way...I can remove my platform as i intalled some nice ss removable cleats custom made...before them I had some ugly rusted nails
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We keep the "trail" pretty clear, and we've used every trick in the book to get it as clear as possible, but there are always some left. We usually have to drive through fast with the jet ski to keep it from sucking up weeds.

Pictures of my son with the best views of the weeds I could find:

Towards the lake. You can see the "trail" in the top right. Great arm for a then 1.5 year old right?


You can see the weeds in the water here. Pretty typical.
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Depending on how much seaweed, and how tightly its wrapped( and maybe a little luck?), I have ocassionally dislodged it by using reverse. But as stated..sometimes you gotta get wet!

btw, All I've ever owned were straight inboards.... Im eating a little crow with my son...I told him I'd never own an outboard... wellll, I bought a pontoon with one. But., I keep looking at how a "motor in the middle" would work!?
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