Reid’s Mustang @ 60 m.p.h. on Lake George

It was like a mill pond and 72 degrees. The perfect setting to see what this little pocket rocket could do. In it's first solo run with Jeff Roach at the wheel since the reunion Reid's lil' hog needles out at 60 m.p.h. Unsure of the accuracy of the gauges we took a cruise with a GPS and sure enough 60 m.p.h. according to the satellites above.

To the Godfather's dismay, I don't like to be the one to deliver such bad news and especially having been so involved with the build of the 409 I hate to say that thankfully Reid already holds both pinks. As Jeff tore-ass by the dock at 60, so did the words of the Godfather swirling around counterclockwise down the bowl of disappointment.

Maybe next time Dave!!

Reid - take your time coming to get your boat, really there is no hurry. We'll make room if need be.

Glad shes doing what she should be, after reluctantly messing around with one of his previously untouched favorites that boat not running right definitely was hurting Reid's soul...

Thats great, now just add a bottle of NOS and some racing fuel and she will be hitting 70!

Its got a cam, its got heads, its got a manifold, its got serious compression, and there was nothing wrong with the stock HM engine to begin with....

What I want to know is what Brother Jeff found wrong with it that spoiled Reids victory over well his other boat..

JoeinNY wrote: What I want to know is what Brother Jeff found wrong with it that spoiled Reids victory over well his other boat..

Early reports indicate the main problem was in the original dist, though there were some valve issues coming into play as well. Id like to hear more details as well!

I cant say that Im one bit surprised to hear it broke the 60 mark- that package in that hull has exactly what I thought it would take. Now Im curious what kind of power it would take to get that hull to 70.

Ken,
Where's the video??

Nice work Jeff. We knew Reid left his boat in the right hands.

-Keith

Godfather..What are you doing on sat OCT=4th thats when Mojo will be in town, we will be going out on lake Conway if you want come let me know!

Brktracer wrote: p/allen wrote:     Now , what do you have in that motor ? QUOTE] I'm betting he's not telling. I do notice the absense of PCM manifolds. Nice job! [QUOTE=p/allen] Nice hat , by the way.

That IS a good looking hat, isn't it Pat? If I didn't thank you enough at GL, please let the multiple sitings at LG serve as evidence of my appreciation.

As for the engine, Joe spelled it all out above. The stock-appearing intake is a painted alum Holman Moody over-the-counter piece. The heads are iron 1.94" x 1.60" valve World Products Windsor Jrs which Josh (remember him?) and I ported several yrs ago; The cam is a vintage Crane .484/512" lift, 216/228 duration RR stick I've had for 10 yrs from back when Crane was still making them under their name. And the pistons are the same Keith Black KB-116 domed ones used in my blue Mustang. With the 58cc Windsor Jr heads they yeild a borderline high comp ratio of +/- 10.8:1 according to their website. To answer Brktracer's question about the exh's, these are the stock but exh port matched HM alum manifolds. The cam may be a little much for an everyday 302, as you can certainly hear it lope, but it'll idle down low and the holeshot doesn't seem to have been affected from what Jeff said, and with the combination of the other parts certainly by far out-pulls a stock 302.

As far as what was wrong with it, Tim already heard somewhat from me and that aside from a slight rocker adjustment, the culprit was/is the old, original, sloppy (as Jeff verified) distributor, so it's not keeping the points (yes, points) set correctly. I should have known better, but it came straight off my blue '69 Mustang which historically ran great. Ironically, and I don't know if anyone remembers, but one of the reasons I had decided to finally tear down that stout but well-abused blue boat engine last winter was that it had developed an intermittent max-rpm miss (imagine that), which I thought was valve train related. So today, I shipped Jeff the replacement electronic Mallory unit which I bought last year but never installed on the blue boat as it needed a RR gear installed. I'm anxious to drive it myself.    

Reid.................
All i can say is You always Da man!!!!

Now I'm going to have to get back up there to the lake. I have never seen that boat in the water. I sure have moved it out of the garage enough though.


I'm glad all that port work did something on them heads, I'm still getting metal shavings out of my ears lol. Does that 302 now spinning the right way (or worng) not push oil out of the back seal now?

Sorry about that lisa forgot to log out again!

Ya that motor had been passed around a little, I put that short block together in 2005 I belive so its been sitting for some time.

Saw that boat in the garage too Lisa when me and Patti visited last summer. Looked cool even in the garage. Had to walk pass it on the way to the beer cooler so I saw it alot.

Not to worry Chuck...I too have no idea what they are talking about..just like the way they say it.

john