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    Posted: May-25-2008 at 12:06am
Hi does anyone know whether my guacamole green 68 skylark is fern green or maybe autumn green   i looked through the brochures and would like to match the boat fairly close when i paint but cant seem to sort out which it is .i couldnt find ugly green either.
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Peter, I can't find a picture of your boat. Not even in th Diaries. Weren't you at one time having a problem getting it in the Diaries?

The Fern green is darker and is more of a green whereas the Autumn is lighter and had a tint of yellow to it. Check under one of you step pads for a closer to original color. Are you painting? I thought at one time you were going to re gel coat!


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Here you go, Pete: 1968 Skylark



Im curious which green is which as well. If you know what color my Skier is, Id love to know. I think its the same color as Phil's '70 Barracuda.

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thanks yeah thats my boat it is in the diaries . i used the previous owners pics . at this point if i have time between the new stringers and transmission i would only be able to paint it this yr . i tried to link that pic to my forum but i must not be doing it right
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Peter (and Tim), Well the first picture sitting at rest in the lake, is the Fern.

Tim, the second picture is Phil's Cuda? It's the Autumn. You can see the hint of yellow in it.

Peter, Why are you painting?


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Phil's Cuda


Sorry pete but this was my Best of show vote at GL last year.
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Originally posted by 81nautique 81nautique wrote:


Sorry pete but this was my Best of show vote at GL last year.


Alan, Don't be sorry! Some people just don't have good taste when it comes to picking boats!! Seriously, I didn't vote for myself ether. I never do. Didn't Phil come late to the reunion? I didn't see much of him or his boat. I'm glad we are having the Friday get together this year so we can see more of the boats.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Peter (and Tim), Well the first picture sitting at rest in the lake, is the Fern.

Tim, the second picture is Phil's Cuda? It's the Autumn. You can see the hint of yellow in it.

Peter, I hope you dont have to paint! That Fern is a terrific color- and rare.

Pete, the pic I posted is my '72 Skier. Same color as Phil's, I believe. We've always called it pea green, though Autumn sounds much nicer.

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thanks guys   fern it is , everyone in my area that supplies glass paint and gel coat feel that imron in fern is the best answer over gel coat. anyone know the ups and downs for either process?     yikes by the way my velvet drive quote came back its $900 to just rebuild or to upgrade to a heavier 71 series is $1300    HELP       
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Peter, im confused- why do you want to paint it? Whats wrong with the gelcoat?

The gel is very thick and hard, and will be much more durable than any paint.
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Peter, I'm primarily a wood boat owner but have the Tique for the wife and kids for their day to day use. Have you ever owned a varnished or painted boat? Lots of work and you need to take lots of precautions on even tying them up to a pier. Even though great advances have been made in high end paint, Tim is correct that the gel is just thicker, harder and consiqently more durable.
You should also be aware that there isn't a paint (excluding bottom paints) that is recommended to stay in the water for more than 48 hours.
BTW, Imron is old school. It was the very first poly type paint and has great success. The people you have been talking to may be just very familier with it and are comfortable with it.


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I'm with Pete and Tim on the classicness (is that a word?) of that dark green. Years back I wasn't big on it nor did I like refrigerators or ranges or carpet in that same color. But it's coming full circle. Glad to hear you're going to stick with it Peter. The green '70 Mustang (Diaries) that Rodney and I have came to us somewhat faded but with some sanding and compounding came back great and good enough to take a 3rd-in-class trophy at Orlando several yrs ago.   

As far as the names of the color(s), I'm not completely sure we're on it yet Pete. I'm wondering if Tim's and Phil's boats aren't actually Inca Gold and the olive/avocado shade is the Autumn green, as both of those colors were listed in the 71 Brochure, but no other greens. I went for a quick search of Inca Gold as a color and found this site. The background looks surprisingly close to the boat color in question. http://www.portholeauthority.com/thenewtbird/ours/IG.html

So, in the case of Peter's older Skylark, I'm inclined to think its Autumn. I've seen another shade of light green on a Cuda that looked nice and was just light green, and finally found a boat like it in the
'68 Brochure. I think it might be the Fern Green, since Autumn Green is carried on into the 71 Brochure as mentioned above and the dark green was definitely made up thru that time frame. FWIW.
    
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How about contacting Correct Craft with your serial #'s and have them look up what color it is?
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I'd never seen a ski boat CC in that dark color until Peter's boat was posted on CCF. It was a popular color on the Freeports back in the day. I never liked it much back then, but on these smaller inboards, they look good in any color. How do you deal with scratches and gouges though?
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guys my gel coat is pretty played out . it is faded and maybe i could get some of it back but most of it is very transparent right into the glass you can see all the cloth pattern of the boat structure , either i will need to paint as close as i can to the original or will have to find a way to re gel in the color i have
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Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:

guys my gel coat is pretty played out . it is faded and maybe i could get some of it back but most of it is very transparent right into the glass you can see all the cloth pattern of the boat structure , either i will need to paint as close as i can to the original or will have to find a way to re gel in the color i have


Peter, Try bringing the existing gel back before you go to the extent of paint or a re gel. The roving (cloth pattern) you are seeing was the norm for a CC through into the late 70's. I was actually told by a Meloon one time that seeing the roving through the gel was proof of a high strength quality hull! CC used the roving instead of cloth against the gel as a first layer of glass.


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This is a 71 skier in original green.

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Tim D, per CC's list of colors, I still don't think that's green, but maybe I'm color blind.
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Restoring the gel coat is far better than painting, but what do you do when there are a lot of scratches and deep gouges down to the fiberglass? If the hull is in tough shape, it seems like filling the gouges and painting maybe the only practical solution isn't it?

Peter, I called you last night. I'll try you again tonight.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Restoring the gel coat is far better than painting, but what do you do when there are a lot of scratches and deep gouges down to the fiberglass? If the hull is in tough shape, it seems like filling the gouges and painting maybe the only practical solution isn't it?

Peter, I called you last night. I'll try you again tonight.


Bruce, Which Peter?

Glass with deep gouges are filled just like you would prep for a paint job but then instead of spraying paint, you spray a polyester gel coat. The biggest difference is after the spray job. Gel doesn't like to be sprayed so you end up with a VERY orange peeled surface. This requires lots of hard block wet sanding to level out and then of coarse a buff job. The re gel requires the additional man hours but you end up with a new boat.


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Pete, you're Pete, Peter1234 is Peter. I looked at his boat last summer. He's got some scratches and gouges to deal with, but if they can be repaired rather than painted, that is the best way to go.



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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Pete, you're Pete, Peter1234 is Peter. I looked at his boat last summer. He's got some scratches and gouges to deal with, but if they can be repaired rather than painted, that is the best way to go.

Sounds like he needs some spot gelcoat repairs, and a good wetsand+buffing.
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