1964 CC Classic Restoration

quinner wrote:

First you should clean it out before launching   

Napa will most likely be best for tuneup parts. I went to mine down here for PCM parts,the counter man said as he looked for an old parts catalog that it was worth it's weight in gold---

Pete will be along to recommend Autozone shortly

Chris,
I get all my tune up parts from Napa. There's also a Sierra    kit out there.

Whys that Bruce? I see no signs of a conversion. Fuel lines, carb, intake, motorbox all look original. At least to these non-expert eyes.

Bruce thanks, I will get some better pics of the engine, there is one pic in my first post.
Serial number is PC239, have the build sheet as well, will get that in here as well.

It's a great looking boat. I really like the colors.

It's certainly possible that it's original. Interceptor may have put some down drafts on them towards the end of the line and they never made it into the manuals. Or they could have offered a conversion kit. The thermostat housing does look like it was made for marine use.

The motor box doesn't look like it's been altered?

8122pbrainard wrote: Riley wrote: NAPA gold filter is 1521 My 312 uses a Napa Gold 1068. It's a shorter filter since the X55 stringer is close to the filter.

1068? Isn't that a GM number?

Sparkplugs are Champion F10. They don't make that number anymore, but NAPA will cross reference them.

Chris, Keep in mind how cool Reid's is and how imperfect the gel is. If you've got just the white hull to deal with, you're in good shape.

No on the cap and rotor. We've never changed ours.   I think the rotor is the same one all Mallory YL's use, which won't mean much at NAPA. You may have to remove them and bring them in. That's a lot quicker than standing at the counter watching someone paw through all their books.

Riley wrote: 8122pbrainard wrote: Riley wrote: NAPA gold filter is 1521 My 312 uses a Napa Gold 1068. It's a shorter filter since the X55 stringer is close to the filter. 1068? Isn't that a GM number?

Bruce,
I have no idea but it's the filter I've been using for around 40 years!!

Riley wrote: No on the cap and rotor. We've never changed ours.   I think the rotor is the same one all Mallory YL's use, which won't mean much at NAPA. You may have to remove them and bring them in. That's a lot quicker than standing at the counter watching someone paw through all their books.

The cap, rotor and condenser is included in the Sierra kit. It's their part # 18-5271

8122pbrainard wrote: The cap, rotor and condenser is included in the Sierra kit. It's their part # 18-5271

Somebody must have hacked Pete's account, since the real Pete has no love at all for Sierra parts. Pretty much despises anything Sierra

Oh that's right Sierra and NAPA have the same part numbers.

Why is that Pete?

KENO wrote: 8122pbrainard wrote: The cap, rotor and condenser is included in the Sierra kit. It's their part # 18-5271 Somebody must have hacked Pete's account, since the real Pete has no love at all for Sierra parts. Pretty much despises anything Sierra Oh that's right Sierra and NAPA have the same part numbers. Why is that Pete?

Ken,
Napa and Sierra have the same #'s! The Chinese copy everything!! Well, you do learn something every day of your life and still die stupid! No, as a rule I don't like Sierra but I just happen to have a #18-5271 kit in my marine cabinet. I got it just before I took the X55 to GL one year. I figured I had better give the 312 a tune up so just in case my 25 year old point set failed, I wouldn't hear about it from all the CCfan members the rest of my life!    Well, Napa did end up coming up with all the Echlin parts so I never used the Sierra kit.

8122pbrainard wrote: Bruce, I have no idea but it's the filter I've been using for around 40 years!!

You should change your oil and filter more often Pete I think 40 years is really pushing it.

The plugs cross reference to Champion part # 129 RF 10C knowing that you can cross reference to other brands

The Echlin ignition parts I just bought were made in Mexico

Cross reference for Champion F10

Bruce, I agree with Tim. I haven't seen many 312s up close but that intake manifold looked to be specifically designed for marine used. The rear runners were quite a bit taller in the rear and shorter in the front presumable to compensate for the rearward angle of the engine in the boats/running on plane.

The carburetor is unlike any 4bbl I have ever seen before. It was similar in design to the early 90s "Fishbowl Holley", The entire top half could be removed to open the fuel bowls and the vacuum secondary was located on the rear (facing rearward) bowl.

All of the paint/patina matched the engine exactly as far as I could tell. It even had a brass tube that came up to the (What would be electric choke puck but was not) to heat the choke spring with exhaust gasses from the intake crossover.

Steve commented that the paint on the inside of the engine box appeared to be original like his dads.

Certainly, not some backyard 4bbl conversion. Maybe an upgrade offered from interceptor? Very neat and period correct from what I could tell. 4bbl even still works!

We didn't look at the prop but by driving it I could tell it was over propped. Tach was INOP but when the 4bbl opened there was a tiny increase in RPM and lots more noise.

Pumped for Chris to get it running properly with some smooth running gear. I will foot behind that thing.

Zach, could be... The intake looks different from ours which is a TBird manifold. It's a late model boat and could have one of the last Y blocks Interceptor put out and they may have introduced a downdraft for them by that time.. Our '66 Mustang has a downdraft which I believe is factory and I have not seen any reference to those, other than similar vintage Mustangs with the same set up. That vintage boat was definitely the end of the line for those 6 bangers. The motor box doesn't look like it's been added onto along the bottom?

The intake should say Interceptor on it somewhere if they made it. If it's a Ford intake, it should have a Ford number on it. Sometimes it's difficult to tell original from a modification on a 50 year old modification.