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GlassSeeker
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you're right Sanger has never screwed motor mounts into the stringers.
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Tim D
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I don't think they screw motor mounts into those dinky plywood stringers.
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A 91 you just need to inspect.
Some older boats have had some problems, Outboards have some problems at the transoms sometimes but its rare, the ones I know of are pre 91. I know of some floors being replaced but I have not seen any stringer jobs. I am not saying it's never happened just that I am not aware of any and I do look. |
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If you don't have 9 mins skip to 3:00
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Sanger has no qualms about using wood.
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TRBenj
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I think HW may have told me that they're still built with wood, but icbw.
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storm34
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Are all Sangers composite? Got a buddy looking at a 91 but he's done with wood stringers unfortunately.
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I have heard tales of SkiPro's having hull separation during a race. Almost sank. They had one at 2003 Nationals in Elk Grove and very few skied it. The drivers all said the boat wandered because of the outdrive but I have never driven, riden in, or skied a SkiPro.
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Are all the ski-pros out in the back 40 with trees growing up out of them. A few weeks ago when we were talking about Banana George's boats, I looked in all the classifieds and google images and don't think I found one ski-pro. I thought they were popular in the endurance racing circles because of their speed, so I figured they would still be around, but I haven't found any.
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Thats crazy! Looks like show ski twin rig tricks haha.
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SkiPro?
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GlassSeeker
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The Malibu Sportster is a nice footing boat, too bad Malibu never submitted it as a Barefoot boat because I'm sure it would have passed.
Those Supreme footers were pretty bad. IIRC the wake was not very crossable. That was a long time ago. I don't have a list of the boats that failed to earn approval. They have approved some pretty crappy boats too. If it's not approved it has never been used in competition barefooting. The list I posted is from the ABC. |
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Agreed Tim, They are great looking boats. I would prefer a Supreme over a MC. There was an awesome white one with metallic blue and red graphics (barefooter that is) a while back for sale somewhere. My uncles 87 is teal and white and has been a really good boat to them for going on 12 years I think? Was on a private lake it's whole life until my uncle picked it up.
Two of the longest members of the Muncie Ski Club both sport stunning one owner examples of Ski Supremes. One is dark red with metallic grey/white graphics and the other is flipflop with metallic grey color and red/white graphics. They boat look show room new. One of the two was in the factory when it was set to be foreclosed on. Gene had to make a late night trip to get to the factory before 12am when the take over stared. He went into the factory himself with his suburban and pulled his pre paid boat out. If he didn't do that he would have lost his money and his boat. . There used to be a beautiful 300 hour annaversary edition on our lake that someone bought and then proceded to park on a lift un covered every summer untill it disappeared |
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Theres a guy on here who bought a BF Supreme with a 460 real cheap and got it running. I like the looks of those boats. |
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Hollywood
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Same goes for the Barefoot Skier, American Skier hull (which you'll notice is true for most, if not all of the inboards)
Sportster is a very good barefoot boat. Don't worry about what wasn't tested, it's quite easy to read between the lines. |
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I've seen some old Barefoot Supremes with 460 Fords in them. Probably fast but the hull is no different from a standard Ski Supreme so they probably foot just like any other ski boat. Never barefooted behind my Uncles 87 Supreme.
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My uncle had a '87 tristar. I don't recall skiing begin it but I was told it had a good barefoot wake... And that was about it.
Mc made a few different outboards- the prostar 200 of the late 80's, the barefoot 200 of the early-mid 90's and the powerstar 200 of the late 90's. I've been told the bf200 was a decent footing boat- pretty sure it had a semi-vee hull. |
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It didn't last long in the MC line up so I figured it must've been a disappointment. I'm guessing that would've been MCs answer to the BFN. When we footing on Badin? |
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Steve
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Our ski team bought a Mastercrap Barefoot 190 (tristar wtih a bbbc). We were not impressed and very happy when this boat became someone else's. |
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Didn't Mastercraft make an outboard barefooter back in the 87-88 time frame? Also, what of the Mastercraft Tristar based barefooter 190? Were none of these boats "approved" barefoot boats of the day?
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Steve
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lewy2001
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Andy I always thought The Malibu Sportster was the best barefoot boat in their range. It does not appear in that approved boat list at all.
Are they a good barefoot boat?? |
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It's a beautiful country, It's spring, temps are headed to the 80's here, you could ski all along the way back home.
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LaurelLakeSkier
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Looks like it could be a good deal on the start of a project....the 4300 mile round trip doesn't sound so good though. |
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Guys have been doing that or faking it for years, I still do not have an answer to the questions.
I do not recommend doing it or faking it. Only the very stupid should attempt such a feat. |
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Tim D
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In the first pic, the guy on the left is the driver, right? That's more stupid than the ghost surfing.
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GlassSeeker
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Yes HW, I mean't SE not SX. There is no SX. I've been told that SE was Special Edition but don't know that to be fact. Those TX's are fast that's what I footed behind at 59mph an 86 TX, the first one Sanger ever made. Wake is no DXII though.
Kap, I think it was just over 50k, thats why I like to build my own. In fact, talking with Scott Pellaton, he said he would just get an older DXII and build a motor for it, and go carbed, get rid of the complications caused by EFI since it's really not necessary to going fast. |
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**Looove me some Sangers.
The one and only Sanger dealership in Wisconsin has been affiliated with Aquanut Water Shows. I think they started selling them here around 97/98. We are lucky to have a relatively large population of them in my area. At one time we used them as show boats. These are the juniors practicing. I've never heard of these as SX before, always seen it as SE. And they've all had a swirl interior like a mid-00 Correct Craft, not pleats. 92-94 DX was available with the more modern, DXII gelcoat scheme. I think shortening of the lifting strakes was a change for the 91 model year and probably carried forward for all "delta pad" hulls. I've seen enough to believe you could opt out of the bow teak, though the vast majority have them. These TXs are wicked fast and BKH can probably share more as he's driven one for his ski racer friend. If all you are implying is the Delta Pad is the name of the concept of the hull keel, well then the DLX and VLX have that too. Surely their hulls are a tad bit different including length, but close enough. I've never either with the plate, nice to know some have gone ahead and made an open bow "Barefooter" though. The 89-92 Sport Nautique also has similar hull design. **Disclaimer - I cannot prove any of this information to be factory original. |
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andy whats the going price on that package if I may ask? |
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