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Mebirkle
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Does the hose go right in the tank filler tube? Isn't there is siphon block hiding in the honey hole? |
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HatterBee
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Maynot be a anti-siphon device. You could always try it. You could also take out the fuel sender and enter the tank that way. I good think will also be to jack the boat to the rear and to which ever side you place your suction device in so you can get all the old fuel out.
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8122pbrainard
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The anti siphon is on the fuel outlet. Tony, I have a old outboard primer bulb but I've neber thought about using it for starting a siphon. I'm going to try it. Thanks for the idea. I use the old bulb for priming fuel to carbs. |
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grim007
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congrats on your new toy, don't forget to change the fuel filter if you suspect the gas to be bad and after 30 years of driving a I/O boat reverse in a inboard was different but not hard to master, good luck and have fun
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gun-driver
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It's simple to siphon the fuel out with just a hose/tubing.
Get about a 6' section of 3/8" - 1/2" clear hose. Stick one end in the tank to the bottom. Take the other end and keep it about 1' above the height where the hose goes into the tank letting the middle section hang. Suck until the fuel is level with the hose going in the tank (should be 1' below your end) then quickly take the hose out of your mouth and cover it with your finger (air tight). Lower your end down below the end in the tank to your receptacle and release your finger. And presto fuel starts flowing and none in your mouth!!! |
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Mebirkle
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Thanks grim.. there is a very large metal canister fuel filter mounted to the bow side in front of the motor. I was told by the PO that there is a water/fuel separator filter in place. Could this be it or is this just the normal filter for the boat? The casing looks as old as the boat and it's the only inline fuel filter in sight. There is a line out to the fuel pump and a shut off valve.
I guess it's time to start some new threads... :) |
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Mebirkle
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P.S. the hose won't go down the filler tube into the tank so I assume there an inline screen or something blocking it. I bought me a cheap hand up. Oh well... have to get to the gas another way to pump it out and drain it.
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Mebirkle
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The hose doesn't go all the way down in the filler tube to the bottom of the tank. It get stuck in there. Something is blocking. I'll have to access the tank another way. Thanks! |
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gun-driver
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It won't have any screen or any roll over anti-siphon valve in the neck like a car would. It may make a bend or two you may have to twist the tube around a little to get it through the bends. I like to use 3/8" tubing it seems easier to get it through bends. My '95 makes an "s" bend in about a 1' distance and I can get a tube through.
The only other way would be to pull the tank or hook up a pump to the fuel line at the filter. And yes that sounds like the fuel/water seperator the cansiter stays and the element inside gets replaced. |
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Mebirkle
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I'll get back to jamming that hose down the spout. I guess I'll spin the filter off and change the element. Let's see what it looks like. I took a pic but not sure if I can post yet.
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gun-driver
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I doubt you will be able to spin the filter housing in place. If it spins great if not take it out put it upside down in a vise then give it a spin.
Upload your pics to something like photobucket then you will be able to copy URL link and paste. |
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SNobsessed
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There should be a drain plug at the bottom of the filter cansiter shell. You can remove that & any water in there will dribble out. I would just do that for the short term.
Getting the canister off can be a bear, even in a bench vise. You will have plenty of other items to debug right away. You can get a new filter from SKiDim or My Correct Parts for about $15. |
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gun-driver
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You can also get the filters at a autoparts store.(not one like Autozone)
Wix makes one for it. |
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Mebirkle
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Good call SNobsessed! I'm going to just drain it for now. I have about 10 gallons drained out of the house that connects to the filter. I attached a cheap walmart variety hand pump to it. My forearms are getting quite the workout. I hope that tank wasn't full. I'll hit the filter next. Tomorrow I get a depth finder on it. Can someone give me a ballpark of depth of water I can go to / draft? It looks like it'll site barely in 10 feet of water without losing a prop (ok, a little exaggeration). 4 feet??? Thanks all! |
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8122pbrainard
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2.5' if you're on plain and moving along at a decent speed. 3.5' would be safe for just a SNW speed. Getting up on plain with the aft dragging, then I'd say 4.5' |
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OverMyHead
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Remember it is not just clearance but also what your cooling system can suck up from the bottom. You don"t want to idle a beached boat. Most Here would say you don't want to beach a boat anyway. Do as I say not as I do.
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Mebirkle
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No trim? I'm learning so much about inboards after the purchase. Is it basically half to full throttle until out of the hole and no tweaking with trim at all?
P.S. I'm going to keep all the stupid questions in this thread. :) Water trial tomorrow if all goes well. Boom! |
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Jllogan
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Petes right on, i have kissed the bottom with the prop in about 2.5 feet so thats the bare minimum |
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Jllogan
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I use the wix 51515 |
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Mebirkle
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I must sound like such a dork.. LOL
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gun-driver
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Thats the oil filter # |
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TRBenj
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The Wix part number for the Fram fuel/water separator filter used in the mid 80's through early 90's is 33436. |
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watrski
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You can buy it and use it until the stringers give out and then part it out for all of your $$ back.
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Mebirkle
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Bot has an issue getting out of the hole. It wants to stall as soon as I'm into the throttle a little. The carb is a year or two old. Seems like a fuel issue to me. I will try adjusting the floats tomorrow ala YouTube Holley video float adjust procedure. I will also try to get the fuel filter out and replace it. I can pound the throttle from neutral and get the RPMs up and get it moving. Nothing is good at 2000 RPMs. I am not a carb wrencher. We will see.
Can someone tell me hoe to run it off a garden hose? I was going to disconnect the screen on the intake side in the water line and run a hose from there. Sound about right??? Thanks all. I have another post about this in general but I am not getting much action. |
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87 Martinique - first ski boat ever... bad glass, I'm chicken.. bought a 2001 Chaparral Deck Boat. :)
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SNobsessed
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Best way to run off of garden hose is to use the bucket method - get a 5 gal bucket, have the garden hose filling it up. Have the disconnected RWP input hose (disconnected from strainer) pulling from the bucket.
Are the points & distributor cap healthy? Check your timing advance too - you should start at 8-10 deg BTDC & advance to about 28 deg BTDC by 4000 RPM (Stock curve). Another strong possibility is the accelerator pump isn't working. Look down the carb while someone pushes the throttle fwd. You should see a healthy squirt of gas, in both barrels. Check the simple stuff 1st before doing surgery on the carb. Don't get discouraged, this sounds like a minor problem. |
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Mebirkle
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Thanks Snosessed. Is there a pic of the RWP? I know there is a strainer and standard water pump on the block. I guess there is another pump I need to worry about. ;)
I too, think its an easy fix whatever it is. I have never dealt with points before. If I pull the cap, what am I looking for to show that are toast? I would be happy to just tune the whole motor just in case as parts are generally inexpensive (yep, I will eat those words soon enough) |
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Big t
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That is what I use on all the boats from 1920 to current and the cars too the trick is to use a 5/16 Id line with a 7/16 od to pass the anti syphon valve
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Mebirkle
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Big T, you just bypass altogether the anti siphon gave? Interesting.
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87 Martinique - first ski boat ever... bad glass, I'm chicken.. bought a 2001 Chaparral Deck Boat. :)
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OverMyHead
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Points are cheap, I would just replace them along with the condenser and start fresh, you will need a dwell meter and a timing light to get things set up correctly, there are lots of YouTube videos that will show you what to do. I picked up a dwell meter, timing light and a set of car ramps in a package deal on craigs list for $25.
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8122pbrainard
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Tony, Hint! Use the quote feature when answering so everyone knows what post you are responding too. |
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