1975 Skiier Stringer Replacement

Andy,

Thanks for the help. I will study on everything you said as well as others and do the best I can. Got to eat dinner and go to work.


Scott

bkhallpass wrote: You must get a fedex discount. Any way to have one of your compadres pick up the wood on a run? The straight grain fir tends to be a straighter piece of wood as well. It will also have very few knots. You could go with less expensive lumber on the secondaries, but if it were mine, and in fact I'm in the middle of a stringer job myself, I would buy the good stuff for your primary stringer. Measure 3 or 4 times before you cut. BKH

I think I will. The savings I would realize buying the cheaper grade will be gone once I spend most of one day and $75 in gas plus lunch in addition to time away from the project going to get it vs. buying it from the only local dealer who would help me for $7/ft four miles from my house.

You guys amaze me how much smarter you are than me! Keep it coming.

WakeSlayer wrote: Scott, You are resurrecting a boat that has some decent value, especially to you. You are going to spend between $800-1500 on epoxy, glass, misc parts, then more on carpet, etc.   I don't see saving $100 on lesser grade wood to be a worthwhile place to skimp. Done right, you are never going to see it again and the boat will give you and your family hundreds if not thousands of hours of priceless family fun.

You are so correct..My wife just said she did not care what it cost, just do it right. I have had the boat since 1990 and even if I pull up to a new dealership on the water, everybody wants to look at it. I have people try and pull me over on the highway and offer to buy it so you are correct, it is worth doing right. It has 690 original hours on it which averages about 20 hours per summer. I have put about 12 hours/summer on it myself which is strictly from mid may to labor day.

Scott,

You are resurrecting a boat that has some decent value, especially to you. You are going to spend between $800-1500 on epoxy, glass, misc parts, then more on carpet, etc.   I don't see saving $100 on lesser grade wood to be a worthwhile place to skimp. Done right, you are never going to see it again and the boat will give you and your family hundreds if not thousands of hours of priceless family fun.

get some rest my friend!!!
we want you to finish this project the right way!!!

This is where you go for your lumber if you are having a hard time finding it in Huntsville. Lots of people on this site have purchased from there. Make a Sunday drive out of it.
Sweetwater Lumber

8122pbrainard wrote: We've got to get you to take some time and read some other threads. Don't worry about sleeping!!

yes all the info is here with lots of different set up. composite material instead of wood..
And some using no foam or alternate materials for flotation purposes..Like using pool noodles

Scott,
SPF aka: spruce, pine fir (not doug fir) is not the same. Not in the same strength class. I've mentioned this before but a good example as to the strength is to look at constuction framing charts. SPF isn't in the same span/lb per sq. foot catagory for roof or floor joists. Keep looking. What part of the country are you in? For the secondaries, the SPF is fine.

The raised area of the stringers aft for the tank can be added on. You don't need to get the 2x wide enough to make it out of 1 piece.

We've got to get you to take some time and read some other threads. Don't worry about sleeping!!   

Have another question everyone.

I have called a ton of places where I live asking for doug fir beams. Everyone says they will have to order it and it will cost a ton($150-$200 for two beams not counting the secondary stringers). More than one said spruce is just as good and if its not going to be seen, it should be fine. Can I substitute spruce for doug fir?

Question #2: Does anyone know what width of primary to buy? If I could send a picture, the beam underneath the gas tank rises above the heighth of the rest of the stringer running up towards the front of the boat. Looks like I would need to buy a 2"X10X12' with the majority of beam cut down to slightly under 7". I hope I am explainging this correctly.

Question 3:   I know I am putting plywood underneath the seats and behind the engine but the areas beside the engine and covering the foam filled void areas is in question. I was thinking about using real thin luan plywood and covering it with fiberglass and resin. I am guessing this area was sprayed with layer after layer of fiberglass from the factory which I obviously can't do now. Any suggestions?

Got to go to sleep now. Hope to hear from you guys on these questions.

I hope to get you some pictures with help offered by Okie boarder.

scott

Scott,

If you want, I can help you. You can email me the pictures and I'll set up a photobucket account for you t host them through and post them on here.

What program opens your photos to view them on your computer?

Hit post options on the right corner of your post. You can Delete or modify from there.

BKH

deleted?

The tops of my primaries have one layer of 6 oz tape, and one layer of 17oz biax in the front and rear, that measures 3/32" from well behind the trans mounts to well fore of the motor mounts, I added a second layer of 17oz biax, that measures a tall 1/8" thick. This is from memory, but I believe this is correct.

TRBenj wrote: WakeSlayer wrote: I cannot figure out how you are going to get away with 3-4 gallons of epoxy. Whoever thinks this project will only consume 3-4 gallons has a serious misunderstanding of the scope of the job that is involved. Thats assuming you do a proper layup, as documented by many on here. 8-10 gallons on a boat that size should be about right. Of course, if you cut the number of courses for the stringers in half, dont coat everything in resin beforehand, and dont glass the floor in, you can probably do it with 3-4.

My general question about glassing the primary & secondary stringers is what is enough? 10 mils, 20 mils, 200 mils? By my math one gallon total mixed should give me over 20 mil thickness on the primary/secondaries.

FrankT      

WOW..this stringer thread is really flying!!! 2 pages in only 2 days and not a sigle picture yet!!!(of the boat in question)
Nice sequence Keegan´s ´73, cslaten? 74 and now this 75...
nice for sharing good advice!!!