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hughman
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I got my "virtually dripless" packing from www.skidim.com . I would recommend these people for most of my boat part purchases. They are real good at answering any questions you might have about what to order, almost as good as this site. Gives you at the least a price to compare if you can find it locally. I usually end up ordering stuff on-line from them.
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Gregman380
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Pete,
I got the 68 Mustang in the water and was able to make a few laps around the lake. I am keeping her in the water boat slip for few days. I am seeing a lot of water coming on board. Even after I run the bilge pump and come back 7 hours later there will be 5 inches of water back in the bilge. I suspect that I need check the prop shaft packing, hose and everything in that area. Where do I get the reccomended packing? I have been scouring the post about using a gortex blend? The PO gave me a bag of what looks like wire mesh for plumbing. I think anything he gave me would be wrong based on everything else I have found. I like the link Hollywood posted. Really good for guys like me! Thanks for the previous help with the RWP as well. I have it working the way it should now. Have great 4th of July celebration! Regards, Greg |
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bubbaskier
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You should be able to get the set screws at any well stocked hardware store. You will want stainless steel if possible. Brass or aluminum may be okay but I am not sure if they will have enough strength to stop the shaft.
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hughman
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Thanks so much for your help, bubbaskier & 79nautique!!! Got it done! Will see how it "drips" when I drag it to Stonewall Jackson Lake in WV next week. But on the "safety collar", on of the Allen screws is missing, and the other is now totally stripped. Any idea where I could get new safety collar screws?
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hughman
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ok, thanks, I thought it might take an Allen Wrench, but it looks like it is stripped out. I will see if I can turn it. Thanks again...
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bubbaskier
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79nautique
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it's called a safty collar, there should be a couple set screws you can loosen and slide it up the shaft further.
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hughman
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I love this site! I am trying to replace my drive shaft packing on an 81' Ski Nautique, but there is a ring around the shaft just up from the large nut so i can not move the nut up the shaft to get the old packing out. This ring has a hole through it, I tried to knock the pin out but it won't budge. any ideas? Thanks...
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8122pbrainard
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Mark,
I had to do a search to find your boat year!! A 84 most likely uses the 3/16" packing. Just get both the 3/16 and 1/4"! You can always use the 1/4" on the rudder port. Packing nut adjustable wrenches are available but most will use pipe or slip joint wrenches. |
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merbesfield
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What tools are required? What size wrenches etc. so I can be sure to have the right tools down at the dock. Also, how do I find out what size packing so I can order it and have it if needed vs. being down for a week?
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rman56
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I finished mine and used the Gortex and it works great, basically drippless.
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bubbaskier
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I am repacking my driveshaft gland and found this very usefull link. Thanks Hollywood you made my life easier. I appreciate all the expert advice this forum has to offer. KUDOS!!! |
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rman56
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Thanks I will look at it. Iam going to try and take it loose today and see what I have.
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Hollywood
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8122pbrainard
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The depth the packing nut screws on will tell if there's packing still in it. The packing is probably still in there. That's why they make these: |
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79nautique
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well it's going to be hard to tell but you might want to see if there is actually ay packing in it, since it's loose odds are it's been spit out of the gland all ready.
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rman56
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Thanks, I will try to tighten it first and see what I have from there.
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8122pbrainard
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Ryan,
Many like yourself are unfamilier with some of the proper parts terms on boats so I suggest posting pictures next time something like this comes up. Since the packing gland nut is loose, first try tightening it before you do a repack. This must be done in the water so it will get the proper water lubrication. Tighten by hand first then by small increments with a wrench. The packing assembly must not run hot. If it does, then it's too tight. You should see about 3 to 5 drips past the gland every minute. After every adjustment, don't forget to tighten the jam nut under the packing nut. It's ther to prevent rotation of the nut from the prop shaft rotating. |
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rman56
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Yes the top nut is very loose. I cant believe I have not noticed that.
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79nautique
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Are you talking about the packing gland for the prop shaft located about a foot behind the transmission? It has a rubber hosed clamped to it? looks simular to the top of the rudder under the gas tank?
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rman56
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Ok I went out and looked it over and the front brass coupler has alot of up and down play in it. Iam guessing its pushing alot of water through there?
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rman56
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Everything is out right now so I need to get it to the lake and check it out. Thanks
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Hollywood
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Take everything out that TRBenj already mentioned, and first just dunk it in the lake. If it is a packing or another leak, you'll notice it right away. This helps differentiate a hull leak vs. cooling system or exhaust when the engine is running.
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rman56
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You know I never did check it before we put it up for the winter. I cant believe I didnt do that. Any good ideas to check it without going to the lake? Still a little cold here. Appreciate all the help....
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TRBenj
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Maybe this is a stupid question, but have you actually determined that the packing is the source of the water intrusion? If not, Id drain all the water, remove the motorbox, back seat, rear floor panels and anything else that would give you a clear view of the bilge. Clean everything as best you can and dry it 100%, then drop it in the water and see where the water is coming in. We found a leak in the rudder port itself on the BFN- we had to drop the port and reseal it. No amount of packing would have stopped that leak! |
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rman56
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Thanks Tomski thats good to know. I know the dripless is more money but it may be better in the long run. On a normal seal how often should you chnge them?
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lonestar
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Thanks Pete, I had the tank out a year ago not thinking to check on the rudder. Im putting a new sending unit in soon so I guess I will try to snake under the tank and get a look at the rudder.
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Tomski
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I have the Oj dripless in mine and it's brilliant. It's got three seasons use on it and I have never had any problems with it.
The only water that gets in the bilge is either what you bring in on your wet gear or spray. On a flat day if you don't ride the bilge is dry. |
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8122pbrainard
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Have you looked under your gas tank to get a idea of the rudder port/packing gland set up? The rudder does not need to be removed but maybe on the gas tank!! You'll see the packing gland nut with a jam nut under it just like your prop shaft is set up. Try tightening up the packing first before repacking. The jam nut is loosened and the packing nut is tightened. You can tighten up a rudder port pretty tight because unlike a prop shaft it's not rotating constantly so heat isn't a issue. Try the tightening first as mentioned. |
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lonestar
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Can anyone describe how to go about removing the rudder to repack it ?
The reason I ask, Im gettin a couple of inches of water in the boat pretty quick while at the dock ? Im guessing I need to tighten somthing down a bit. |
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