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79nautique
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The holley renew kit I bought 2 years ago had the #65 power valve in the kit already. The only thing I had to buy was the choke stat which isn't encluded in brand of kit.
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jameski
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My boat accelerates faster than my speedometer . It takes a few seconds for the stabilizer tube to pressurize, so I don't know how I would get a good 0-36mph time... maybe I could bypass the stabilizer tube for the test? Am I the only one with this problem? Maybe I need to replace my pitot hose, I've cleaned it out the best I can with water and compressed air. It's not REAL slow, just 2 or 3 seconds behind.
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skyhawkflyer
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882001,
The prop helped out a bunch (I also put in a new shaft, coupler, and strut bearing) from nicking a rock while idling in a channel- it bent the tip of the tapered shaft ever so slightly. This boat has had some serious carburator problems for the past 2 years that I have been putting off. Starting out for a slalom run last fall the boat would hesitate, cough, and slowly accelerate with what seemed little help from the secondaries. The carb was dirty with belt dust, had some badly worn parts inside. It really has the punch out of the hole now, but at least part of that has to be the carburator working for a change. If the weather holds out I'm going to make some 0-36mph acceleration tests and time them with a stop watch, how fast are your boats accelerating to 36mph? |
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882001
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i got the acme 542 and the performance your seeing is mostly prop.
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kemah texas
1988 skinautique "2001" |
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skyhawkflyer
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64 Skier!
Good luck with the prop removal. Don't chip any teeth Leave a little bit of the prop nut threaded on to so that when it breaks loose it stays on the shaft with the puller somewhat intact. The Marine Holley Trick kit and a standard Marine Holley overhaul kit are not the same. The old overhaul kits gave you all new gaskets and a #25 power valve. Conservative and workable. The Holley Trick kit gives the same Marine gaskets, but you get a #65 power valve instead. Much more aggressive results from a dead start on acceleration. Much better for slalom starts. So the kits are not the same, as the power valve can make or break carburator performance. Correctcraft also recommended throwing out the standard #25 that comes in most kits and replacing with #65. Thats for a 4160/351 installed on a 2001 hull with all else being stock. I haven't heard what power valve comes in the Holley RENEW kits, I suspect it's a #25, maybe someone out there has a kit on hand and can shed some light on these kits. |
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64 Skier
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Thanks...that really helps me out with some of my decisions!
I'll grit my teeth while pulling the prop and try not to chip any. Good Luck |
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skyhawkflyer
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64 Skier!
To be perfectly honest I really didn't notice any engine rpm change through out the skiing range, or at top end. However, for the same top end rpm (4400) I noticed an increase of 2 mph on the top end. Keep in mind that this is only indicated on the speedo's, and the speedo's are 17 years old, but this has got to be somewhat close. I calibrated my speedo's last year to 36 miles per hour (not top end) using a hand help (aviation) gps and there are certain speed errors above and below that speed. The 540 prop is probably the best single upgrade you could do for the 2001 hull. All hull vibration is virtually gone, and out of the hole performance is comparable to the 90's nautique line. I wanted to take a few stop watch accelerations readings from 0-36 mph for comparison but I forgot my stop watch. I can assure you accelerating through 36 mph seems less than 6 seconds, but I won't make that statement until I've actually performed the test. Prop removal is always a struggle no matter what puller you use. I used an old OJ c-type puller and it was difficult. When istalling a puller first of all make sure it's on straight, tighten, tap with a hammer, use heat on the prop, any other trick to help out. If it won't come off reposition the puller and try again (I've done this several times). My old prop was a federal 13x13. The 540 Acme is 12x13! |
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64 Skier
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Skyhawkflyer:
How did the new prop affect your skiing RPM's versus your old prop. What was your old prop? Did you use a prop puller or a small gear puller. Thanks for any help at all! |
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79nautique
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If your engine is stock then there really isn't a need to spend the extra money on a trick kit. Which is a universal carb kit to start with and not a kit for a specific model carb. If I was racing and had to change boosters, accell pump to meet changing weather condition then ya but I don't think you'll be doing that on the lake.
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79nautique
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What's different between what? a Holley trick kit and a regular carb kit?
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skyhawkflyer
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Well 79nautique, you're almost correct. You seem to know all the answers so whats different in the kit. You tell us!
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79nautique
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The kit is just a standard overhaul kit, just Holley's marketing dept at work calling it trick.
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skyhawkflyer
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It's a 4160 Holley Trick kit from Vince at Discount Inboard Marine.
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swamp demon
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Tell us about the carb kit.
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skyhawkflyer
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I test drove my 87 Ski Nautique yesterday after installing a Holley Trick Kit, a new power valve, and a new Acme 540 prop. I cannot believe how much improved the performance is. After driving it for a bit and making idle adjustments I threw on a wet suit and wet skiing. This boat rocks. All it needs now is a coat of wax and some warmer weather here in Virginia!!!
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