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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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I am thinking about replacing my original '93 Sport Nautique trailer with a tandem axle trailer from Boatmate. I found lots of good feedback from owners on some of the Malibu forums but could only dig up this thread on CCF
The guy definitely seemed to like his Boatmate trailer in this thread.Boatmate on CCF Has anyone had any experience with these trailers? |
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James T Brockma ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: November-02-2007 Location: Indian Wells CA Status: Offline Points: 120 |
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I have a 2006 tandem axle Boatmate trailer with four wheel disc brakes and oil bath bearings under my 2006 216. Overall I have been very happy with it. My only complaint is the rear seal on the left front wheel began to leak oil over the winter of 2008. It was replaced under warranty. Unfortunately it has started to leak again this winter and now the left rear wheel is leaking too. I have yet to contact Boatmate. I hope this is not a trait with the oil bath bearing seals.
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Jim '06 216
'98 SN 176 |
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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Jim,
Do you have the "Vault" bearing system? I was told that the trailer would have the Vault bearing system which uses a hybrid grease/oil that is a solid grease while cold then turns to a liquid once it warms up. The bearing system is supposed to be maintenance free and has a five year warranty. |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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I can't stand the site of a leaking oil bath hub, such a mess. Maybe I just don't trailer enough, but grease seems to work fine for me.
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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HW,
I don't like the site or mess of leaking things either. But in this case It may be better to see the oil leaking in your garage than to find out that the seal was compromised and allowing water to be sucked in while your sitting on the side of the road fixing it... |
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James T Brockma ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: November-02-2007 Location: Indian Wells CA Status: Offline Points: 120 |
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I do not have the "vault" system. I've never heard of it. My bearings use Royal Purple synthetic 50W (I thinks it's straight 50W) oil.
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Jim '06 216
'98 SN 176 |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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Pete, love the marketing, how convenient!
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81nautique ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5776 |
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Doesn't Rob Leinen have a Boatmate Trailer
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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Trailmaster, he loves it. I'm sure he'd give you an update on how it's holding up.
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81nautique ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5776 |
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Trailmaster, That's what I said.
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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typo
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nautique frk ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February-16-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1784 |
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I used to work right next door to Boat Mate in Maryville TN at Skiers Choice (Supra/Moomba) They build Trailers for Centurion,Malibu,Supra,Moomba and some Correct Craft. They will build custom as well. Contact Jerry or Owen at Boatmate they can help answer any questions you may have.
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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So there seems to be some discrepancy on whether or not a trailer intended for a 1999 Sport Nautique will fit my '93 Sport. I have read the brochures and manuals in the reference section and they list both years as having the same length, beam, draft and weight. here is the letter I just got back from Owen at Boatmate:
Hello Randy, I should have sent you a message letting you know that I haven’t made progress confirming whether or not a trailer for a 1999 Sport Nautique would fit your 1993 Sport Nautique. I’ve tried researching the forum, brochures and manuals available at correctcraftfan.com, but nothing I’ve found makes me confident that the trailer will fit perfectly. I’ve talked to the two CC “experts” that I know. Both are adamant that the hull changed between 1993 and 1999, but they are not certain that the hull change would affect the trailer fit. They both think that the bow eye location changed and that the bow stop for the 1999 SN would not be the correct height for the 1993 SN. The “expert” in whom I have the most confidence says that CC used the same trailer for the 1993 SN and the 1993 Ski Nautique and that the trailer had an adjustable bow stop to account for the 18” difference in boat length. I have the fit for the 1993 Ski Nautique, but I’m not confident I can “stretch” the trailer 18” and come up with a perfect fit for your boat. To summarize, I can build you a 1999 Sport Nautique trailer or I can build a 1883 Ski Nautique trailer stretched 18”. I can not guarantee that either on will fit perfectly. I have attached a photo that shows the basic form that this trailer would have. Let me know what you think. I’m sorry I couldn’t come up with a better answer for you. Best regards, Owen E. Shelton BoatMate Trailer, Inc. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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The Sport hull did change in '98, but whether it affects the trailer fit is really a function of Boatmate's design. I can guarantee that CC/Ramlin didnt change the trailer design between the 2 boats- but they use a relatively poor fitting wishbone style. My guess is that the '99 Sport trailer would be pretty damn close to your '93, though. The front portion of the boats (2nd and 3rd gen Sports) dont look very (if at all) different to my eye- most of the changes should be in the back half of the running surface (similar to the TSC change on the Ski Nautique).
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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So from what I understand, the big question is, was the bow eye location moved from the '93 to '99 designs.
Can anyone confirm this or take measurements from a '99 - '02 for me? |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21141 |
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What makes that so important, Randy? I hope youre not considering the boat buddy option- MC uses them on their trailers and they arent a very popular feature.
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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Tim,
according to the email from Owen at Boatmate, the bow eye location may be a problem with the bow stop location. |
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nautique frk ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February-16-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1784 |
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I would not suggest the Boat Buddy either we had many problems with them on the Supra boats at our factory as well, they can scratch the heck out if the gel coat when trying to get it to latch. I always just use the old style turnbuckle that has been on Correct Crafts for years.
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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Yes, I read of trouble with the boat buddy. Not planning on going that route.
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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They are probably concerned with the height of the roller or maybe even a keel v-pad.
Randy, 98-02 would work for your measurement needs. |
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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here is the picture Owen sent me of what the basic trailer would look like.
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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HW,
I don't think they have a keel v-pad on these trailers. I think the question is with the height of the bow roller. |
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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Update from Owen... Here is my email to him and his response:
Randy, I believe the span from the bottom of the rub rail at the bow point to the center of the bow eye will tell us what we need to know. This measurement would be taken along the keel. If those two measurements are different we would also need the horizontal span from the point of the bow to the hull at the center of the bow eye for both models. This tells me how far back the bow eye is located from the point of the bow. Ramlin' may not have the measurement required since they used the "crash pads" instead of a bow-roller type stop. Good luck. We'd love to build you a trailer. Owen E. Shelton BoatMate Trailer, Inc. 1713 Henry G Lane Street Maryville, TN 37801 (T) 865-273-1100 (F) 865-273-1101 www.boatmatetrailers.com -----Original Message----- From: rwise@neo.rr.com [rwise@neo.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:05 AM To: Owen Shelton Subject: Re: BoatMate trailer Owen, Thanks for getting back to me. from what I have read in the manuals and brochures, the length, beam, draft and weight are exactly the same on both the '93 and '99 Sport. I can not find anything about the bow eye location. I will see if I can find someone with access to a '99-02 Sport who could measure it. What would I need to measure? the distance from the eye to the top deck or the eye to the bottom of the keel? I will try to get both measurements. I may call Ram-lin trailers too and see if I can get any info out of them on the trailer design change from those years. I believe they made a lot of the original CC trailers. I really like the looks and quality of the Boatmate trailer and hope I will be able to use your trailer. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks, Randy |
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Nautiquehunter ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-31-2008 Location: Lake Lanier GA Status: Offline Points: 1010 |
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I had them build a custom trailer for my 08 210. It pulls perfectly and supports the boat
with extra bunks. I dealt with Owen he went over and above to get me my trailer. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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Nice looking setup hunter. But I think those wheels may be a little to flashy for my '93...
Yes, Owen is great, real nice guy that seems to really care about the customer. They make a real nice looking trailer. I need someone with access to a 98-02 to measure the distance from the rub rail to the bow eye for me. Please help!!! |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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Ditch the whole keel roller idea and go with crash pads, done deal! Looks like Boatmate does not have a similar design towards the front of the trailer though, modifications might be needed. It's a preference thing, I like the crash pads much more than that roller.
Rob Leinen's Trailmaster ![]() Needs no introduction - Performance Trailer ![]() |
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Rusty2sb ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: December-11-2008 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 45 |
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Want to sell your old trailer? :) |
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Randy_in_Ohio ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2006 Location: N. Canton, OH. Status: Offline Points: 1891 |
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Rusty,
Send me an email. |
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The dealer talked me out of the crash pads and into the roller stop on my 206, Major mistake, never again!! Only use the trailer a handful of times each year, otherwise that roller stop would be history!! |
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