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    Posted: January-15-2007 at 2:00am

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I looked at A 93 Sport Nautique to day, when we took off the boat cover it smelled like gas. NOT GOOD
How do you start to find the leak like this. ? I think that it should be fixed befor the sea trial.
The transmission has a lot of oil dripping out.
A paper towel that was in the bilge was very wet with red oil.
What is the going price for a transmission rebuild?
I might take you up on your offer to look at the boat.
    

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Robert

There are several here who can answer what is the "Best" way to track down a possible fuel leak. Boat Dr, 79 Nautique, Gotta Ski, DavidF, come to mind but there are others.

Eric Levine does transmissions for a living, but others have rebuilt them as well.

I have tracked down the sources of leaks, but I would defer to others as to what is the "best" way.

If you click on my signature below, you can send me and email and we can figure out when we could look at the boat. I will be back in the bay area this weekend. BKH
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First identify the trans, they could leak anywhere, hopefully it didnt leak enough to cause damage, make sure the oil is a nice red color with no burnt smell. If you sea trial make sure that there is no delay in shifting (no that is not normal)....sales pitch. the trans just may need a re seal. use the problems which seem pretty minimal to lower the price of the boat. If you can take bkh with you
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Eric, At least it's not a Chris-o-Matic!! For anyone not familiar with the trans, it was Chris Crafts attempt to make a automatic out of a manuel trans. They used a hydraulic pump and cylinder to move the control arm to the trans. The delay in shifting was so bad that the trans was soon called the crash-o-matic!!


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SOme gas smell after an extended mooring of a carburated boat is, well, hate to say it, normal;

However, a thorough inspection of every componenet is in order, there are many that can contribute to this problem- tank, sender, vent, fuel line & fittings, filter, fuel pump, hard line & fittings, bowl gasket, bowl screw gaskets, accelpump, throttle shaft seals, etc.

You are correct to take it seriously.

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Pete, I still rebuild alot of those old Paragon mechanicals
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I agree with Gotta Ski. The gas fumes are heavier than air too so they'll just hang there until they finally dissipate over time. That's partly the reason for so many marine regulations on the fuel tank, pump and carb, but it is somewhat normal. Especially, if the boat has been layed up for some time. If it was by chance winterized and under cover, It could even be worse because the cylinders would have been sprayed with storage oil leading to more fumes during the winterizing process. The gas in the carb float bowls evaporates out and can cause some odors too. I would get it started and monitor all gas line fittings and connections from the tank all the way to the carb. If there is a leak, you'll find it pretty quickly. I would a$$ume that everything is good from that standpoint though and it's just an extended storage thing.
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Another thing that I experienced in WI before I relocated to FL. One year, when I was storing my boat over the winter, I needed to get some measurements on it and when I opened the barn door that it was in, all I could smell was gas. Now, this thing had been in storage for almost two months and it was now January. Freaking out, I found out that the gas tank, which I filled up before putting into storage had actually shrunk when the weather got really cold. It made gas come out the vent outlet of the gas tank and spill all over the floor. That was the last time that I filled up the tank before storage. After that I kept it between half and three-quarters full.
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i think i would look for another boat!
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no way, make him come down on the price. If you don't find a leak after running the boat and your worried about it. Plan ahead for the worst case and whatever that will cost you have it come off your offer and expalin to the seller your reasoning.
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Originally posted by backfoot100 backfoot100 wrote:

Another thing that I experienced in WI before I relocated to FL. One year, when I was storing my boat over the winter, I needed to get some measurements on it and when I opened the barn door that it was in, all I could smell was gas. Now, this thing had been in storage for almost two months and it was now January. Freaking out, I found out that the gas tank, which I filled up before putting into storage had actually shrunk when the weather got really cold. It made gas come out the vent outlet of the gas tank and spill all over the floor. That was the last time that I filled up the tank before storage. After that I kept it between half and three-quarters full.


Been there, done that for sure! That freaked me out the first time it happened as well.
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Would you say it smelled "fuely"?
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Just ate at taco bell, I think I smell gas too!!
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