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    Posted: December-04-2007 at 6:30pm
Hey guys the last thread I posted here has been a great help. I'm hoping this will be just as good. I also need a new engine for my 1987 SN 2001. It had a 351W in it. I plan on keeping all of this as CORRECT as I can and wanted to put another in. Has anyone delt with a company out there that does good work and won't break the piggy bank. I just helped my buddy put a new core in his boat and has run pissa, I'm most likely going to do the same. I also want to replace the carb, and most likely the tranny. Thanks guys.
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Try this one maybe, it's used but complete.

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I have a 351 left hander out of a correct craft, when pulled the boat had 115 hours on it, it was the pro boss with protec, no carb, call me if your interested, 877-369-6693 Eric
I belive it was rated at 315 at 4200rpms
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

pro boss with protec

I belive it was rated at 315 at 4200rpms

That would have been 285hp @ 4800RPM.
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try this guy....WWW.RAPIDOMARINE.COM

We have a left hand "indmar 351" for $500 + shipping, it has about 500hrs on it, mark 321-231 6041...
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Maddmarxx, I'd be very interested in your 351, where is it located? Is it complete or the block?
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Originally posted by buddysproject buddysproject wrote:

I plan on keeping all of this as CORRECT as I can and wanted to put another in.

You better hope its complete- a LH motor will require a different distributor (or at least the gear), starter and prop (Im assuming it will at least have a good cam in it). The tranny will also need to be reindexed.
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tr, your right i think i cant remember what the cover said, besides i dont think a ford could bust the 300 mark lol   eric
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trb- are you sure . i think pro boss pro tec is 300 hp @4800 rpms....285 was the standard engine wasnt it?...
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i dunno my motor outta my 94 is the pro boss pro tec carbed(gt 40 heads) and it says 310 horsies on the title.. originally owners title said 310, rons marine papers states 310..my owners manual states 300+...guys down the street with exact boat also said that its "over 300" or "300"..
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Originally posted by ryanandrews ryanandrews wrote:

i dunno my motor outta my 94 is the pro boss pro tec carbed(gt 40 heads) and it says 310 horsies on the title..

You can title the boat any way you want. The only difference it could possibly make is in your insurance premiums. It doesnt change whats under the hood.

We've been over this before. Depending on the year and whose literature you believe (CC vs. PCM), the Proboss (carb'd 351w HO) was rated between 285 and "300+" hp. I have found no claims or proof of any physical differences that justify the varying ratings- it appears to be purely marketing.

The base motor was rated between 240 and 260 hp (most commonly 240 or 255). Again, no mechanical differences to account for the different ratings.

Eric, I know youre a Chevy guy, but the GT40 (310hp multiport EFI) will run all over the Excalibur (330hp multiport EFI) out of the hole. Im not a diehard Ford guy, but Im certainly a fan. Though its no speed demon, my boat pulls as strong as anything Ive ever been behind. Pretty sure Im over 300 hp too



MM, if youre willing to seperate pieces on the Indmar, I might be interested in the cooling system (both water pumps, t'stat housing and associated hoses). Maybe the alternator and brackets as well. Shoot me an email: TRBenj@gmail.com
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

MM, if youre willing to seperate pieces on the Indmar, I might be interested in the cooling system (both water pumps, t'stat housing and associated hoses). Maybe the alternator and brackets as well. Shoot me an email: TRBenj@gmail.com


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Tim, building a chevy next?

Nope, I just like to collect Ford parts. Last time I checked, an Indmar 351 wasnt a Chevy

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Tim,
That must be a pic of someone else's boat, as those hoses all say mastercrap.. All joking aside who's boat is it? What model is it?
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That must be a pic of someone else's boat, as those hoses all say mastercrap.. All joking aside who's boat is it? What model is it?

Of course its someone elses- it sure aint mine!

Not sure whose it is exactly, I just saved it off the MC board. Looks to be an early '90's Prostar (either 190 or 205). 1993 was the last year MC (and maybe Indmar) offered the Ford.
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boy you where close there, young'n
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Chris, I didnt say I would never build a Chevy- just that the next one wont be. Id love to build up a TSC3 196 with a ZR6 using LS/LQ parts.

MM, not sure if you saw my post. I might be interested in the cooling system (water pumps, hoses, stat housing, etc) and possibly the alternator and brackets off that Indmar. Let me know if youre looking to seperate stuff.
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TR, i am a chevy guy, and the fords are'nt that bad, i just like to create controversy because the going back and forth about the engines makes everyone learn a little more about them
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Tim I just thought maybe you were working on it for someone else. I didn't really figure it was yours.

Eric,
Just like I tell my uncle parts for chevys are cheap because you need them all the time. I can't bag on chevys to much the BBC's that I have owned have treated me pretty well.
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Tim the brand of the motor isn't an issue it's that mastercrap bullsh*t.
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79, theres no way your up this early, you had to stay up all night
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James, they produced more chevy parts because they new all these guys would want to put chevy engines in thier ford cars, come to think of it i never seen a 351 in a chevelle
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There's some truth to that Eric. I used to own a '49 Ford panel truck with a 327 Chevy in it. I knew a guy that had a '67 GTO that had a 427 Chevy in it. I always heard it was a lot harder to soup up a Ford or a Pontiac, than a Chevy.
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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

Tim the brand of the motor isn't an issue it's that mastercrap bullsh*t.

In that case, you have nothing to worry about!

MM, you out there? I sent you an email but havent heard back.
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please answer me this then why could the early 90's ford lighting with a 351 in beat a early 90's 454 SS pick up in a drag race. Seems to me chevy had the ford out cubed by 103. Answer that riddle.
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wasn't the lighting supercharged?
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Not in the early 90's. It got a supercharger in 99 when it was rereleased.
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Originally posted by 79nautique 79nautique wrote:

wasn't the lighting supercharged?


Yes it was. That's the reason that it was the fastest production truck until the Dodge SRT10 blew its doors off. I don't think the SS454 was even a HiPo engine. Just a bone stock BBC. Probably rated at someplace around 300HP. I think the Lightning was rated at 380HP. Big difference.
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Ed you should have read before you posted, the early edition was non-supercharged, but could not hold a candle to the typhoon, now the 454 SS was just that a bone stock nothing fancy truck that you couldn't get a 454 in until then.
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Eddie,
The best ford ever rated the supercharged version at was 360HP. The original had a 351W nothing special, with only 240 HP. If a stock 454 can't beat that there is something wrong. I wasn't try to start an arguement, was just giving Eric the contoversy he likes some much. How ever ford did have a proto type version that was supposed to be rated at 540HP. They used the air conditioner to help the inter-cooler out. But you could only acheive this HP for a limited amount of time, almost like nitros. The motor itself with out help from the AC was rated at just under 500.
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