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that would be a cool boat to have!!
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I keep expecting Tim Benjamin to bite on that boat however it takes a pretty good size trailer, truck, and workspace to handle that bad boy though. Only guy I know with that stuff already has too many big boats…   If anyone really wants to make it happen it is about an hour and a half from my house and I would be happy to help with logistics and be a stopover along the route.   Steve if it is only the hardtop that is stopping you I can have that thing removed and stowed in the nearest landfill before you could get yourself here to pick it up.
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If we lived at the lake, I would love that boat. It just doesn't fit our needs right now. Good price, but even at free, someone if going to put a lot of time and money into getting it back to being worth it.
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A T14 sure would look dinky parked next to that!
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I would put a G21 in between them.
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Maybe the SJ could be called a poor man's G23? Bet it throws a mean wake.

My hope is to find a Cuddy at a reasonable price someday. And though twins make little practical sense, I really like the cool factor of a twin engine setup. Twin 302's would be awesome. I'm curious what the 6 cylinder 292's were rated at, have a feeling a single warmed up (300 HP) 351 might have nearly the same power as those twin 6's.

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Two motor boxes in that boat leave little room for much else. Great color though.
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Any pics of the 292's?
Would love to see them.. curious about carburation, flywheel location, etc...
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That San Juan needs a couple Cobra Jet motors and an intercoastal zip code.
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Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

Any pics of the 292's?
Would love to see them.. curious about carburation, flywheel location, etc...


Steve go back some pages,it was posted before and had a pic of one of the engines out
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

Any pics of the 292's?
Would love to see them.. curious about carburation, flywheel location, etc...


Steve go back some pages,it was posted before and had a pic of one of the engines out

I looked and couldn't find the picture!
Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

I'm curious what the 6 cylinder 292's were rated at

I think we need to nail down what engines he has. He states "Chev's" but are they Ford 292 Y's (even though the year would be late for a Y)?


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1959 Running OMC 165hp

Would this be the engine in question??

BTW, OMG is it 5:00 p.m. yet???
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I don't know. I'm not sure Gary has a clock in his Shamrock (why would he?) so I don't think he'll be any help.
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I'm barely hanging in till 5:00 p.m.. Never mind till when I can retire. TGIF!!!!!
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Originally posted by Bakchose Bakchose wrote:


1959 Running OMC 165hp

Would this be the engine in question??


It's a very good chance since CC was using some OMC's back then. Good find!


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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

I don't know. I'm not sure Gary has a clock in his Shamrock (why would he?) so I don't think he'll be any help.


I just got back from a ride,had to see if I in fact have a clock and no I do not. I remember seeing the pictures,one engine was either in a garage or shed
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I think we need to nail down what engines he has. He states "Chev's" but are they Ford 292 Y's (even though the year would be late for a Y)?

Pete, he said "Chevy inline 6 292", so not much doubt there. I posted all the pictures he sent me.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

Pete, he said "Chevy inline 6 292", so not much doubt there. I posted all the pictures he sent me.

Yup, so this has got to be the engines:
Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Bakchose Bakchose wrote:


1959 Running OMC 165hp

Would this be the engine in question??


It's a very good chance since CC was using some OMC's back then. Good find!


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Told this story before. Got to drive a San Juan with a fly bridge and twins back in 1976. Was a Correct Craft newbie back then; was just introduced to CCs while working a summer job at Lanier Harbor Marina-Correct Craft dealer. Did not think to open the motor boxes and check out the engines.
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Originally posted by Bakchose Bakchose wrote:


1959 Running OMC 165hp

Sounds very nice! 165 HP isn't bad, thought they would be rated lower than that.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:

Maybe the SJ could be called a poor man's G23? Bet it throws a mean wake.

My hope is to find a Cuddy at a reasonable price someday. And though twins make little practical sense, I really like the cool factor of a twin engine setup. Twin 302's would be awesome. I'm curious what the 6 cylinder 292's were rated at, have a feeling a single warmed up (300 HP) 351 might have nearly the same power as those twin 6's.


The Mercruiser 292 I6 GMs were rated at 200 or 205hp( I believe it depended on the year and they were only available for two or three years) and had 4V carbs and a hotter cam than the truck engine. They were torque monsters because it was basically a tall block 250 with a longer stroke. They came on a Mercruiser I setup and parts have been N/A for those for a long time. They had a raw water pickup through the hull and a raw water pump like an inboard and could be used in inboard applications. Like many inline Mercruisers the intake manifold incorporated into the exhaust manifold was raw water cooled to keep the charge very cool and dense. The Mercruiser 302 of this era was rated at 188hp and was much heavier. IMHO I believe the twin 292s would perform better than 302s but it's hard to beat a 350 or 351.
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This one has been for sale in Nashville for a couple of weeks.

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Originally posted by rebel skier rebel skier wrote:

This one has been for sale in Nashville for a couple of weeks.

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Solid boat. I can't imagine the 351 gets that boat on plane. The 454 was probably a much better choice of power!

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I've seen that one for sale for a while now. Looks like a very nice boat, and I guess the price reflects that.

I don't know, 23' boat weighing maybe 5,000 lbs. or so. There are pretty solid 23' center consoles weighing that that are powered with 250 HP outboards. So maybe a 240 HP 351 would be challenged to move it on plane quickly, but I bet it gets it there in reasonable time and is very efficient at cruise speed. I agree though, would rather have the 454 in this boat!
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Has this '89 2001 in Orlando been posted yet?
Anyone happen to know anything about it? 816 Hours supposedly. Good price if it is like he describes. Then why hasn't it been sold, it's been up for months already.
I might be interested, but would have to sell mine first.
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Originally posted by 63 Skier 63 Skier wrote:


So maybe a 240 HP 351 would be challenged to move it on plane quickly, but I bet it gets it there in reasonable time and is very efficient at cruise speed. I agree though, would rather have the 454 in this boat!


I agree with you Dave. We are so used to our overpowered rockets that we expect that they all run that way. I wonder if a 454 would use less fuel once you got it going? I also wonder since its such a large boat if the weight gain from a 351 to 454 would even be noticed
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Doubt the weight difference of the 454 would be felt much at all. I think it would be hard to beat the efficiency of the 351 at moderate cruise speed, say 26-28 mph. Get up over 30 and the 454 might match the fuel burn. Bet top speed with 351 is 36-38 mph.

My 454 experience is with mechanical secondary carb and so I think of it as a fuel gulper.
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Another Cuddy.

This thing looks like it has a big a$$.

Yikes
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Originally posted by Frankenotter Frankenotter wrote:

Another Cuddy.

This thing looks like it has a big a$$.

Yikes

I think that's a San Juan, definitely not a Cuddy. I guess you can write anything on the hullsides!
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