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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KENO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-24-2021 at 7:08am
No problem on the pictures. The controller was hanging around on a shelf. Wink

I did notice though in your pictures and video of the old controller, that the throttle lever on the back is on 90 degrees out of position and needs to be unbolted and rotated 90 degrees counter clockwise for the  throttle and shifter to operate correctly together.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wayoutthere Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-23-2021 at 8:02pm
I verified right hand rotation via the firing order, it has a right hand propellor.
It pulls to throttle  and pushes to shift. 
Switching the shift cable to pull is very easy on the new  controls.
Just stumped why it's like that, i threw it in a bucket last year.
Thanks keno, i appreciate you going thru the effort to help me out
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Here are 3 pictures all cleverly rotated 90 degrees from the way they were by the picture gods. It's an MV1 like what you have.

The arrow on the index card is only to point to the front of the boat

It's setup for pull to go forward and pull to open the throttle with both cables going out the front. The shift cable curls up over the front of the engine, past the carburetor to the mount on the bell housing.

The throttle cable goes under the engine, curls up under the transmission and hooks to the throttle cable mount.

That was the typical setup for a mid to late 70's PCM 351

First picture is with the shifter in neutral shifter arm has an S marked on it




Second picture is at part throttle in Forward. You can see that the Shift arm is pulling back to go into Forwardand so is the throttle arm



Third picture is at part throttle in Reverse, the Shifter arm is moved forward so it's pushing the cable backwards to the Reverse position


Maybe this will help, maybe it won't Wink

Like you already know and mentioned, the controller can be set up a lot of different ways though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KENO Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May-23-2021 at 10:45am
WOT (that's short for wayoutthere or maybe wide open throttle) Wink

I'll post some pictures of the same Morse control as your original, set up for "Pull to go forward" and "Pull to open the throttle" with both cables entering at the front of the controller.

For now let's just say they don't look like yours 
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Forward at the helm should pull the cable. 


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The old control pushes to shift, the cable stay is in front of the transmission, push to shift would push the lever on the trans backward.
I'm a dummy it just dawned on me the cable probably swings a loop and pushes the lever.
Gonna go outside & open the box now.


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Sounds like you've figured it out. Yes, the shift cable comes from the front of the trans back to the shift lever. 


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I knew it was lever forward.
I'll have to look at the engine i don't remember the cable coming in from behind the trans, and looking at the picture on the ignition thread there are 2 cable stays, carb and trans.

Switching  push/pull is a matter of which side of the lever the cable is connected.
The controls in my other boat can push or pull shift and throttle. It's single lever dual function also.
I have a set of single function controls that can push or pull, it lets you rig from either direction.

The old control pics are  forward @ idle, full throttle & nuetral (still can't load pics in order i attach them)
 it pushes to shift so i must be wrong about the cable stay for the transmission.

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Dan,
I don't know of a helm control that can't be reversed to ether push or pull so take another look at the instructions that came with yours.

As an example, here's the MV-2 manual out of out reference setion:


NOTE: The neutral safety switch in the helm is not used in our boats. The NSS is on the trans. 


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Originally posted by wayoutthere wayoutthere wrote:

 
When i see the control push the cable and the location of the cable stay, push would move the lever on the transmission to the rear. 
I know the engine is rh rotation, is the transmission backwards too ?
 

The lever on the transmission  always goes forward to shift the transmission into forward no matter what rotation the transmission is set for.

What did you buy for a new controller?

Some pictures of it's backside would probably help.
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Some rigging today, gauges steering and controls, all cables installed as well.
Which brings me to the transmission,  the cable stay is on the engine/bell above the trans, every bw ive seen the lever goes forward into forward gear, and back for reverse.

The oiginal throttle is broke at the throttle spring loaded slide, so i ordered a replacement.
The old control pushed to shift and pulled to throttle, i checked it 4 times and noted it in the new controls installation manual, and i had the old control on the bench when i attached the cables to the new part,
so i set the new one up to do the same.

When i see the control push the cable and the location of the cable stay, push would move the lever on the transmission to the rear. 
I know the engine is rh rotation, is the transmission backwards too ?

The steering shaft is a little sloppy, there probably is not a direct replacement is there?






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Hey thanks very much for posting your project here on CCF
You are very good at this stuff
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Dan,
I like the way you glassed the holes through the new stringers. Many haven't which allows the path for water. 


Well well that’s not how Correct Craft intended it Mr Keep it Original is it?? 😆 😉
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Dan,
Again, very nice work. I like the way you glassed the holes through the new stringers. Many haven't which allows the path for water. 


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Thank you for the kind words. 

The stringers are 1/2 marine ply staggered seams glassed together, 12 feet long, and they are easy to make, anyone installing dimensional lumber is 2 steps away from these. 
They got located with shims made from glass so after they're in place the engine mount fits, and they get bedded down on a strip of glass, no bare wood anywhere. 
The core samples (drainholes) all showed good bond and good bed, and when your a dummy like me and forget to put some in, you can always go back after spraying gel and cut more. 


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

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I'm impressed. Nice work. More like yourself should consider the LVL for stringers. Thumbs Up

That must be some of that "homemade LVL" he used for stringers, AKA marine plywood glassed together ( and very well done)

My eyeballs aren't that sharp but I did read his threads on PN and the site for "different type boats" too  Wink

Or maybe you're telling him "nice work, but you should have considered LVL"
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Dan,
I'm impressed. Nice work. More like yourself should consider the LVL for stringers. Thumbs Up


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Thank you to the members who directed me to stan, the emblems arrived today and are really 1st rate work.
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Im looking for plastic--- CorrectCraft ----nameplates that go on the sides of the boat at the transom.
Taylor can't help with windshield, & i can't find reliable source for glass or rubber.

And for a laugh, i'm having trouble logging in again, had to request a password and still have enter the super secret security image.

Started work on the trailer, new axel ordered.
minor cosmetic left on the boat which i suck at but it's that much closer to rigging which i don't suck at

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Thanks Pete. It’s a worthy project
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Originally posted by jbear jbear wrote:

cant go to the link........Pete or KENO fix please?

John,
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cant go to the link........Pete or KENO fix please?
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Originally posted by wayoutthere wayoutthere wrote:

https://www.planetnautique.com/vb5/forum/nautique-topics/general-nautique-discussion/nautique-cc-boat-restorations/601131-new-member-first-ski-nautique

Pics of the progress so far


Go over to PN he’s doing a nice job. PN has a restoration section now
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So. Longhorn and fishy Jeff are over there too
So PN added to home screen
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I know bummer. Just seems everything year 2000 below should be on ccfan
Especially 78. My favorite
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