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81nautique
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Larry, I ski open water 28/34 on a Senate C, I think if I was in the course I would immediately want something faster but for what I do it's a great ski and I've found it to be very forgiving and easy to turn but it will cut hard when you get up on the front it.
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DVskier
Senior Member Joined: September-04-2014 Location: Seneca SC Status: Offline Points: 449 |
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It's easy when you're retired. Will ski 100+ days on the snow this winter as I have for the past 5 years.
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Riley
Grand Poobah Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7948 |
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Larry, I ski 15/30 on open water only. I've been skiing on an HO Vengeance for 15 years. I got talked into a new ski this summer and I was surprised at how much better it is and how much better my skiing is. I got the low end Senate, (alloy). Plenty of ski at 30 and I think its good for 34. I know the Senate has been around for quite a few years. Not sure when it was last updated, but you maybe able to find a used one that is the latest model. .
Tom has the Senate Graphite and loves it. DVSkier, " I did over a hundred sets this year at 8 passes per set. . I'm 72 " Holy crap, good for you! |
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Orlando76
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I recommend spending as much as you can on something as new as you can. A very forgiving ski to try is D3. I like Radar a lot but I am not a Senate fan even though I’m only a 32 mph skier. The appropriate way to move up is to go faster to appropriate max speed then to cut the rope. I don’t agree with that theory. I feel once you’re comfortable with -15@30 to cut rope down to -22 so you can feel what it’s like to get free of the boat then move up in speed to max when you can. I almost think starting somebody-15 in the course is a hindrance.
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DVskier
Senior Member Joined: September-04-2014 Location: Seneca SC Status: Offline Points: 449 |
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I'drecommend a trip up to Cobles ski school, it's not too far from you. April does a great job and could certainly get you on the right track. Unless you have access to a slalom course on a regular basis it would be unrealistic to expect improvement.
I got serious about running the course last year and have improved a lot but I did over a hundred sets this year at 8 passes per set. Good instruction and access are the most important factors to me. I'm 72 and have run 15 off at 30.4 at least 50 times yet my tournament PB is 5@30.4 mph. Something about the anxiety at a tournament or maybe a senior moment. I ran 3@32.3 mph a couple weeks ago in practice. I have a 2013 Senate Graphite ( Senate C) that I'd sell you for $300. In like new condition, no boots. Slalom course skiing is very addictive! Lots of ups and downs but I love it. |
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75 Tique
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Question for Joel or Chris Mars or whoever wants to field it.
I am not a course skier. Always liked the idea,, but access never seemed to go my way and unfortunately, I never made it happen. If lucky, I get on a course once or twice a year. Maybe. This year I got a little more access and am feeling some improvement. For years, on a good day, I could make 15/28 mph. This year, I got so I was early most balls at 15/30. I've had some opportunities to ride newer skis, and despite my rants about not needing equipment better than me, realize a newer better ski does make life easier. I dont want to spend a lot since I dont do this regularly, but I am striving to get out more and continue to improve. I've skied a couple Radars and like them I found this one for relatively cheap. I know its older, but has to be better than my 90s vintage HO that weighs about 50 lbs. Apparently Senates have been around for about 10 years. Dont know if this one is that old or not. Do any of you have any idea and either way, is this a worthwhile improvement? Another question to the skiers. When I get very solid at 15/30, do you think I should go to 22/30 or 15/32? Keep in mind I have no intent to compete but only to improve my PB. Thoughts? It killed me to read Chris' recent post about Zoe hitting 15/28, two hands, just cruising through the course. When I do 15/28 or 15/30, I feel like I am putting absolutely everything I've got into it and after a pass or two am completely wiped out. Makes me wonder what I am doing wrong when young mother of 2 with little to no prior experience can get out there and just cruise to equal performance. That being said, I certainly applaud her performance. Oh, just an FYI, here are a couple passes from this past summer, just for reference and for comment. In a later outing this year, i got a little better than this. |
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