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    Posted: September-28-2016 at 2:33pm
Hey all,

Ok, I picked up some ATF fluid, and am getting ready to winterize my 351 HO for the first time since I've owned it. I took some photos, and want to be sure these are ALL the drain holes I need to drain from. Also, a photo of the ATF fluid I have..and wondering if this is the correct fluid to use in my transmiision.

1. driver side of engine block


2. front of engine, under waterpump:


3. passenger side of engine (towards rear of block)


4. (2) of these, one on each exhaust manifold:


5. Here is the Transmission Fluid I've picked up (is it ok??)
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How bout the drain plug on the trans cooler??   Any RWP strainer??
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yep, there is a strainer back at the rear of the engine just before my Timmy T. Do I unscrew that and drain?   Where is the water drain plug on the Trans cooler??

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My trans cooler drain is on the bottom rear. Unscrew strainer and drain. Also RWP says to loosen rear cover and drain, it is usually stamped on the cover.
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Ok, sounds good. I'll add those to the list! Also, is this the proper ATF fluid to use for refill of the transmission??

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The fluid type should be on your transmission.....I've read multiple places not to use Synthetic, mine takes Dex III, which is no longer available, so I use this:

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Not the proper ATF. Skip synthetic and use conventional.

Pull the lower hose on the trans cooler, don't mess with the drain plug. The brass is too fragile. Don't forget to blow out any heater or shower cores as well.
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Originally posted by Duane in Indy Duane in Indy wrote:

My trans cooler drain is on the bottom rear. Unscrew strainer and drain. Also RWP says to loosen rear cover and drain, it is usually stamped on the cover.

I suggest just pulling the low hose off the trans cooler and not using the drain plug. The trans cooler is a rather thin copper and I've seen plenty of the drains damage the coolers shell. If you do want to use the drain, you MUST double wrench. it.


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On those drain plugs, be sure and probe the holes while open to ensure rust deposits are not obstructing the drain process. As mentioned, do not use synthetic in the trans.
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Thanks guys...Ok, I'll go get the conventional dex/merc III and take back the VI (My trans. has Dex III on the tag). Yep, I knew about probing the water outlets, did that on my previous boat is well.

I found the drain plug on the trans. cooler, but it would be a PITA to get undone..MUCH easier to loosen the lower hose. :)

I'll be doing the oil, filter change, trans fluid change, and engine fogging today yet, and then tomorrow, drain the water, and add anti-freeze. I did find some -75F RV antifreeze locally..so I am going to use that, probably better than the -50F stuff, but not quite as good as the -100F stuff, but I can't get the -100F stuff local.
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Sounds like it gets real cold where you're at...
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Just make sure the Pink is not Ethanol based, you want the Gly....... something based which is usually the 75 deg stuff

Edit: Yes HW the Propylene Glycol
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you mean propylene glycol instead of ethylene glycol?
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Hollywood....do I detect some sarcasm???   

Also, is it 3 quarts atf for the trans?

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Here's the Anti-Freeze I intend to use. I read the MSDS on it, and it says it's Propylene Glycol.

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when you drain the strainer, make sure you don't lose the "O" ring.

Like the others, I just pull the hoses from the cooler as well.
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I find it easier just to park the boat in a heated garage
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put it in what you take out, assuming you're at the full mark to start with on the trans.

i doubt you'll get more than 2 qts
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Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:



Also, is it 3 quarts atf for the trans?



Mine is 2qts, but check local listings on yours
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Flyweed,

Someone had to do it, but thanks for bringing me down by talking about winterizing the boats. I think you just might be the first one for this season.

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yeah..I hate to be the first..but with mine and my wife's work schedules, and the temps in our area hitting the 50's at night, we just aren't going to be out on the water any more this year. So, putting her to bed for now.

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All of you who have to winterize your boats have my sympathy. We ride year round here in San Diego and I haven't even looked at my full suit yet. Stay warm out there!

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Originally posted by flyweed flyweed wrote:

Here's the Anti-Freeze I intend to use. I read the MSDS on it, and it says it's Propylene Glycol.



Just picked some of this up at Menards. Propylene glycol indeed...Seems like all of the other ones I ran across were ethanol based.
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On sale at Menards around here for $3.30 gal thru Saturday, cheapest I have seen.
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

On sale at Menards around here for $3.30 gal thru Saturday, cheapest I have seen.


Yep. That's what I paid...gotta love Menards! And btw they also have VR1 20w50 on sale at Menards for $4.44 a quart (after rebate).
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That's pretty good on the VR1. I just picked up a 5 quart jug at O'Reilly's for a bit over $24.00, not bad.

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I have always used the -50 ethanol based (iguess) is there a problem with it ?
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Auto antifreeze works good, but it needs to be collected at spring startup.   RV antifreeze can just go into the ground water without issue.
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Originally posted by malibud malibud wrote:

I have always used the -50 ethanol based (iguess) is there a problem with it ?


ethanol or Ethylene?
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The 50 deg stuff has ethanol, besides being flammable read that it is not healthy for the internals and can leave some nasty white clumps behind. The 75 deg stuff is not ethanol and not known to be harmful. Worth the extra Buck or Two a gallon IMO.
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