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oldcuda
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Just use a 4x4 with a block on one side and a bottle jack on the other side and a chain in center to lift back of motor/trans enough to get access to whats left of filter.This way you only have to take two big nuts off rear mounts and loosen fronts and of course coupler to propshaft.This way you leave motor mount bases alone and alignment is minimal.Usually get a grip on whats left of filter with a pipe wrench.If I was going thru this I would be installing remote oil filter at same time.very easy with this motor and never have this problem again
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Fl Inboards
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Yea! Lets "Weld" on it while it is in the boat!! Sorry! No welding in Boats!!! Fiberglass does not weld well but it does burn nice and hot! |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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harriss28
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Would it be possible to have someone weld a big nut onto the remaining piece of the filter. Then the filter could be removed with a socket.
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8122pbrainard
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Chances are yes. |
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Fl Inboards
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Call my friend Bull 407 855 2115. He has B.I.M.P mobile ski boat repair in Orlando. He is also known as Mr. Bigblock as he has one of the coolest blown drag drop top camaro's in Florida. I am sure he can get the boatback up and running oil filter and all.
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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84 BFN
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Crud! I didn't want to do this! All this hassle for a stupid cheap a#$ oil filter! Would I have to re-align the transmission?
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84 BFN
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SNobsessed
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If worse comes to worse & you have to pull the engine, it can be done for far less than $600. You can rent a hoist at a rental shop for maybe $50.
It would be a full afternoon of R&R, but you would get to clean under the engine! |
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NEDLUTZ
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this is what it should look like. |
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Dreaming
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Pictures would definitely be helpful, but without seeing your situation, i would suggest a pipe wrench. maybe a strap style wrench would work as well?
cloth type strap wrench |
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Bri892001
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In regard to the needle nose pliers: If a needle nose pliers is good, a needle nose Vise Grip might be better:
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84 BFN
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Is the oil filter outlet on the block completely open? It seems like there is a cross pattern (best way to describe it)- at the base of the block oil filter opening and the oil filter base sits on that. I like the pliers method - but am concerned about the opening in the block.
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84 BFN
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NEDLUTZ
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I had this happen on my 87 BFN,and we used a pair of needle nose pliers and a screwdriver.(use a pair pliers that you don't want to keep, because they might twist depending on how tight it really is.)
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grim007
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On top of filter are small drain holes, i had to place two screws in holes 180* apart and used a screwdriver to twist out the piece that was left, i don't know if you have the clearance for something like that, good luck and keep your patience.
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89Martinique
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this is why you oil the rubber ring for the oil filter! who ever installed the oil filter didnt oil the ring and now its a b!tch to get off. good luck
But when you get a new filter. OIL THE RUBBER SEAL!!! |
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rcthorpe
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That's why I don't go to any of the Uncle Jiffy oil change places anymore. I have damaged a few oil filters removing them after a gorilla with an impact wrench and prybar tightened it on at the lube shop.
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84 BFN
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I’m located in Longwood Florida.
The location of the filter gives almost no leverage. I tried getting a screw driver on the base but the oil filter location on the block has about a 1” lip around the filter. The way my luck is going, if I attempted to pry a edge of the base down I would probably end up cracking the block. |
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84 BFN
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rcthorpe
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Post pictures. It might be interesting to get some ideas once we can take a look at it.
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TRBenj
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The filter location on the engine isnt really any more inaccessible on a 454 than a 351w... but the v-hull boats like the BFN have their engines set down on the primary stringers, which are 6" lower than the floor. It can make access a little more difficult.
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Bri892001
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I'm guessing the 454 filters are a little tougher to get to than the 351s?
When this type of thing happens in Auto repair, guys would take a blade type chisel, and set it at an angle. Then tap, tap, tap to bite in a little and put some rotation. It requires a skillful hand. |
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TRBenj
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Wow. Who installed the filter, Superman?! I guess that makes a good case for only installing it hand tight.
I cant think of anything else that would be helpful- now that the body of the filter is gone, youve lost pretty much all your leverage. No way would I be paying anyone $600 to pull my engine out of the boat. With the right tools, its a quick and easy job. Hopefully that amount includes engine removal, oil filter removal, engine reinstallation and alignment, if it does come to that. Where are you located? Add your location to your profile so others can see- maybe someone close to you has a helpful idea. |
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84 BFN
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Hi:
I’ve been trying to remove what’s left of my oil filter for 2 weekends. My boat is a 1984 Barefoot with a 454. When I attempted to remove the oil filter, it essentially crushed when using the oil filter wrench. The oil filter body was about as thick as or maybe a tad thicker than a aluminum can. Long story short and about $100.00 later the only part left of the oil filter is the base. I took the boat to a mechanic and he said that he’s going to have to pull the engine loose ($600 +-) in order to get to the filter. Does anyone know of a better alternative - other then dynamite? Thanks. |
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84 BFN
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