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panda
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I got a 95 ski nautique, has anybody ever surfed behind the 90-96 hull? How much weight do I need? Is it possible to surf behind this boat?
Sorry I'm a little clueless about wakesurfing, because I'm mainly a 3 event skier. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! |
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TRBenj
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Yes its possible, but you'll need a lot of weight. Ive done it a handful of times on my '90- no extra ballast, but 10+ people in the back corner of the boat. Id be interested in hearing what an ideal setup would consist of... Im just a hack.
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thanks. much appreciated. any idea what a good board is for a beginner? I'm pretty competent on a wakeboard, so I feel this couldn't be too hard.
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panda
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TRBenj-your 79 barefoot is baller as hell! I'm super jealous, I would love to have a boat like that, but with the amount I slalom I could never have a barefoot.
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tullfooter
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Never say never. My son and my Brother-in-law wakesurfed behind my BFN with no extra weight, other than me driving and three people in the back. I think my board is a CWB Landlocked. It wasn't easy, but they did it. |
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kapla
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I´m using a obrein alliance 4"6...and a lot of weight around 2000lb....
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kapla
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i get this......
i´m the second rider... |
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<a href="">1992 ski nautique
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harddock
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My kids ride behind my 98 SN with a 350lb sack on the floor by the back seat. Granted they are light and don't do any tricks but can let go of the rope and follow the boat. Getting the speed and rope length right and while nothin fancy I am sure you can ride almost any inboard.
Board we use is a Hyperlite, |
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TRBenj
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I dont think that is necessarily the case for larger riders, unless you mean that adding weight is permissible. We've tried surfing behind several 196's and the bigger/heavier guys just displace too much water for the small wake to compensate for. The smaller/lighter girls, on the other hand, can cruise the length of the lake. Short of adding ballast, we've played with the speed and people placement as much as we can- there are sometimes physical limitations that youre up against. |
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i way about 200, hmmmmm ill try adding some weight and ill let people know how it goes this summer.
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panda
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is that behind your 92? if so is that with 2000 lbs? I don't know if i'm comfortable putting that much weight in my boat. |
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kapla
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i put 2000lb yes.....
but no thats not in my boat...just a little joke... thats behind a 33ft bertram |
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panda
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do you have any pics of your boat with 2000lbs in it. as someone who is very meticulous about the things that I own, I have a hard time doubling the weight capacity of my boat
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kapla
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not the best picture but something like this...
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sweet77
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KAP i gotta say man your a cool dude!
i tried wake surfing at white lake but im about 255 and never quite could let go of the rope completely but it was fun |
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wakeboardin2k4
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I surfed my 86 ski nautique a lot and got the wake really dialed in. Its obviously a different hull but similar principal. Go with what Kap says and drop between 1200 and 2000lbs in there and youll be able to surf it.
Id suggest a bigger board for someone your size and with the boat youre using. Somthing like a hyperlite broadcast thats like 5'6"? With my 86 we put 800+ on the port side and 500 in the back and it looks like this |
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"I'm planning to bring my girl that rides on a trailer with me and leave my girl that complains about camping at home"
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Looks good Eric, but your homey in the back looks like he may be getting some carbon monoxide fumes lol !
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mglines
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Once I finish my 86SN project I may try wake surfing this year. So for a 86SN and a 200lb person could I surf behind it without a bunch of weight in the back?
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TRBenj
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"Without a bunch of weight" meaning no passengers or other ballast? I cant see it happening, no way. |
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C-Bass
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Eric,
What prop were you running? I agree that there is no way to surf a 2001' hull without a "bunch" of weight. |
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wakeboardin2k4
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I believe it was a 1540 or something.
Tim do you remember? It's the same one you guys were running on the bfn |
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"I'm planning to bring my girl that rides on a trailer with me and leave my girl that complains about camping at home"
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kapla
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who the guy back there!!! hes is in the 300lb so also adds some nice weight there...get a couple of those and no need to mess around with the fat sac...and a big plus....you can move them around in case you have goofers or regulars |
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wakeboardin2k4
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True story. Never hurts to have big friends
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"I'm planning to bring my girl that rides on a trailer with me and leave my girl that complains about camping at home"
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TRBenj
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Unless you slalom ski exlusively.
Eric, we ran the 1598 on the BFN. |
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C-Bass
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Same prop I've got as well. I've never tried it with a lot of weight, only had 1 400lb bag and maybe 4 guys in the boat. But it was tricky maintaining that slow of a speed.
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gun-driver
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Question's on this wake surfing.
How do you start out? Lying on the board like surfing? If so how do you hold the line and stand up? The reason I ask is I still have a surfboard from my younger days and would like to try this. If anyone has a video from the start I would like to see it. |
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TRBenj
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Nope, not like (ocean) surfing... no need to paddle to catch the wave! You start out like you would on a wakeboard/wake skate. |
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Thanks just went to youtube plenty of shots on getting started.
Now I can tell the wife "this is why I hung on to this board so long" |
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To start a wake surfboard, lie back with your heels about where you want them after you get up. Be on the side of the boat you are surfing (it is hard to cross the wake, but I have done it!).
It is hard to stay in position for very long so make sure the driver is ready to go. Have the driver put it in gear & pull SLOWLY. No hole shots here! The board will flip up & you can pull yourself upright onto it. Let the driver get the wake formed & then you can pull up to it. Use a thick rope (we have about a 1 inch diameter) with knots for hand holds. We use about 800 lbs in the starboard rear corner. I have found that the lake depth has an influence on the wake too. Can't get a good wake on the port side. It's fun just trying even if you can't surf for long. It takes a lot of concentration. Definitely easier on the body than other skimming sports! |
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