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Topic: wakesurf behind a 95 ski nautique
Posted By: panda
Subject: wakesurf behind a 95 ski nautique
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 5:03pm
I got a 95 ski nautique, has anybody ever surfed behind the 90-96 hull? How much weight do I need? Is it possible to surf behind this boat?

Sorry I'm a little clueless about wakesurfing, because I'm mainly a 3 event skier.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

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95 Ski Nautique GT40



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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 5:05pm
Yes its possible, but you'll need a lot of weight. Ive done it a handful of times on my '90- no extra ballast, but 10+ people in the back corner of the boat. Id be interested in hearing what an ideal setup would consist of... Im just a hack.

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Posted By: panda
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 5:21pm
thanks. much appreciated. any idea what a good board is for a beginner? I'm pretty competent on a wakeboard, so I feel this couldn't be too hard.

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95 Ski Nautique GT40


Posted By: panda
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 5:24pm
TRBenj-your 79 barefoot is baller as hell! I'm super jealous, I would love to have a boat like that, but with the amount I slalom I could never have a barefoot.

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95 Ski Nautique GT40


Posted By: tullfooter
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by panda panda wrote:

TRBenj-your 79 barefoot is baller as hell! I'm super jealous, I would love to have a boat like that, but with the amount I slalom I could never have a barefoot.


Never say never.
My son and my Brother-in-law wakesurfed behind my BFN with no extra weight, other than me driving and three people in the back. I think my board is a CWB Landlocked. It wasn't easy, but they did it.

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'90 BFN



White Lake, Michigan



Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 7:08pm
I´m using a obrein alliance 4"6...and a lot of weight around 2000lb....


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Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 7:17pm
i get this......

i´m the second rider...

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Posted By: harddock
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 7:19pm
My kids ride behind my 98 SN with a 350lb sack on the floor by the back seat. Granted they are light and don't do any tricks but can let go of the rope and follow the boat. Getting the speed and rope length right and while nothin fancy I am sure you can ride almost any inboard.
Board we use is a Hyperlite,


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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-12-2011 at 7:30pm
Originally posted by harddock harddock wrote:

Getting the speed and rope length right and while nothin fancy I am sure you can ride almost any inboard.

I dont think that is necessarily the case for larger riders, unless you mean that adding weight is permissible. We've tried surfing behind several 196's and the bigger/heavier guys just displace too much water for the small wake to compensate for. The smaller/lighter girls, on the other hand, can cruise the length of the lake. Short of adding ballast, we've played with the speed and people placement as much as we can- there are sometimes physical limitations that youre up against.

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Posted By: panda
Date Posted: May-13-2011 at 12:18pm
i way about 200, hmmmmm ill try adding some weight and ill let people know how it goes this summer.

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95 Ski Nautique GT40


Posted By: panda
Date Posted: May-13-2011 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by kapla kapla wrote:

i get this......

i´m the second rider...


is that behind your 92? if so is that with 2000 lbs? I don't know if i'm comfortable putting that much weight in my boat.

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95 Ski Nautique GT40


Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-13-2011 at 4:38pm
i put 2000lb yes.....
but no thats not in my boat...just a little joke... thats behind a 33ft bertram

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Posted By: panda
Date Posted: May-13-2011 at 5:29pm
do you have any pics of your boat with 2000lbs in it. as someone who is very meticulous about the things that I own, I have a hard time doubling the weight capacity of my boat

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95 Ski Nautique GT40


Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-13-2011 at 5:33pm
not the best picture but something like this...


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Posted By: sweet77
Date Posted: May-13-2011 at 8:49pm
KAP i gotta say man your a cool dude!

i tried wake surfing at white lake but im about 255 and never quite could let go of the rope completely but it was fun

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Posted By: wakeboardin2k4
Date Posted: May-13-2011 at 9:09pm
I surfed my 86 ski nautique a lot and got the wake really dialed in. Its obviously a different hull but similar principal. Go with what Kap says and drop between 1200 and 2000lbs in there and youll be able to surf it.

Id suggest a bigger board for someone your size and with the boat youre using. Somthing like a hyperlite broadcast thats like 5'6"?

With my 86 we put 800+ on the port side and 500 in the back and it looks like this




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Posted By: 05 210
Date Posted: May-14-2011 at 12:04am
Looks good Eric, but your homey in the back looks like he may be getting some carbon monoxide fumes lol !

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Posted By: mglines
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 12:51pm
Once I finish my 86SN project I may try wake surfing this year. So for a 86SN and a 200lb person could I surf behind it without a bunch of weight in the back?


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by mglines mglines wrote:

Once I finish my 86SN project I may try wake surfing this year. So for a 86SN and a 200lb person could I surf behind it without a bunch of weight in the back?

"Without a bunch of weight" meaning no passengers or other ballast? I cant see it happening, no way.

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Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 1:07pm
Eric,

What prop were you running?

I agree that there is no way to surf a 2001' hull without a "bunch" of weight.

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Craig
67 SN
73 SN
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85SN


Posted By: wakeboardin2k4
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 1:24pm
I believe it was a 1540 or something.

Tim do you remember? It's the same one you guys were running on the bfn

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"I'm planning to bring my girl that rides on a trailer with me and leave my girl that complains about camping at home"


Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 1:27pm
Originally posted by wakeboardin2k4 wakeboardin2k4 wrote:

I surfed my 86 ski nautique a lot and got the wake really dialed in. Its obviously a different hull but similar principal. Go with what Kap says and drop between 1200 and 2000lbs in there and youll be able to surf it.

Id suggest a bigger board for someone your size and with the boat youre using. Somthing like a hyperlite broadcast thats like 5'6"?

With my 86 we put 800+ on the port side and 500 in the back and it looks like this




who the guy back there!!! hes is in the 300lb so also adds some nice weight there...get a couple of those and no need to mess around with the fat sac...and a big plus....you can move them around in case you have goofers or regulars

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<a href="">1992 ski nautique


Posted By: wakeboardin2k4
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 1:47pm
True story. Never hurts to have big friends

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"I'm planning to bring my girl that rides on a trailer with me and leave my girl that complains about camping at home"


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 2:11pm
Unless you slalom ski exlusively.

Eric, we ran the 1598 on the BFN.

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Posted By: C-Bass
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 2:18pm
Same prop I've got as well. I've never tried it with a lot of weight, only had 1 400lb bag and maybe 4 guys in the boat. But it was tricky maintaining that slow of a speed.

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Craig
67 SN
73 SN
http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6103" rel="nofollow - 99 Sport
85SN


Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 2:21pm
Question's on this wake surfing.
How do you start out? Lying on the board like surfing? If so how do you hold the line and stand up?
The reason I ask is I still have a surfboard from my younger days and would like to try this.
If anyone has a video from the start I would like to see it.


Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 2:35pm
Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

Question's on this wake surfing.
How do you start out?

Nope, not like (ocean) surfing... no need to paddle to catch the wave! You start out like you would on a wakeboard/wake skate.

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Posted By: gun-driver
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 2:58pm
Thanks just went to youtube plenty of shots on getting started.
Now I can tell the wife "this is why I hung on to this board so long"


Posted By: kapla
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 3:04pm
Originally posted by gun-driver gun-driver wrote:

Thanks just went to youtube plenty of shots on getting started.
Now I can tell the wife "this is why I hung on to this board so long"



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Posted By: SNobsessed
Date Posted: May-17-2011 at 10:34pm
To start a wake surfboard, lie back with your heels about where you want them after you get up. Be on the side of the boat you are surfing (it is hard to cross the wake, but I have done it!).

It is hard to stay in position for very long so make sure the driver is ready to go.

Have the driver put it in gear & pull SLOWLY. No hole shots here!

The board will flip up & you can pull yourself upright onto it.

Let the driver get the wake formed & then you can pull up to it.

Use a thick rope (we have about a 1 inch diameter) with knots for hand holds.

We use about 800 lbs in the starboard rear corner. I have found that the lake depth has an influence on the wake too. Can't get a good wake on the port side.

It's fun just trying even if you can't surf for long. It takes a lot of concentration.

Definitely easier on the body than other skimming sports!





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Posted By: cgofort
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 8:50pm
Here's surfing on my '97 sport:
1st photo has 750lbs at stern, 400lbs in starboard side, 300 lbs in bow + 2 people on the starboard side (250lbs)


This photo is with driver only in boat:


Posted By: cgofort
Date Posted: October-17-2011 at 8:53pm
driver only for people, same ballast set up!


Posted By: fishslayer
Date Posted: October-21-2011 at 12:52pm
For what ever it's worth, I have a '06 NS sport 21' with (2) on board blast tanks. I go about 235#, I can barely go wireless on our 5'7" board. My much lighter kids on the other hand have circled the entire lake spinning and shredding up the wake. We to have tried several people and positions. It is all about physics, displacement versus weight. I must admit tho it is blast and still a fun day on the water with the wife and kids.



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Posted By: fool32696
Date Posted: August-14-2016 at 3:54pm
I tried surfing my 1990 ski nautique yesterday with a skim board and had a blast. Had 4 guys in boat running 10-12mph I believe. I'm 6'2" 200 lbs so after a little research I'm seeing that it looks possible to surf with no rope if I get a larger board like a 5'4" hyperlite broadcast and throw in 1500-2000 lbs of ballast. My question relates to someone who has set up a direct drive for surfing and what they may have found works best for fat sac combos, placement. So far I'm thinking about getting two 750lb sacs for beside the motor and play with passenger placement to see where to add another 300-500lbs. What do you guys think?


Posted By: Blamey
Date Posted: August-14-2016 at 6:02pm
Have you seen the suck gate or mission surf gate. Those seem to drastically improve the wake quality and allow you to evenly weight the boat.

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Previously: 95 Sport Nautique, 1980 Ski Supreme


Posted By: fool32696
Date Posted: August-14-2016 at 8:01pm
Was just doing a search and checking it out. Looks worthwhile to grab $50 in parts and put together a suck gate and throw in some ballast. Anyone have experience putting suck gate on 90-95 ski nautique?


Posted By: 2tall
Date Posted: October-21-2016 at 7:17pm
I made a suck gate for my 96' ski nautique closed bow, It works well and does make the wave smoother. It also allows me to weight the boat evenly. I use a longboard since I am 6'6" and weigh 215 and the wave is easily big enough and I can surf as long as I want until I am tired or fall.. I have tried smaller boards and can't get them to push fast enough. I think I need more weight in the boat. This was my first summer with the boat and I started with 2-350lb fat sacs. I think I need one more bigger sac (maybe 540lbs) to really get what I would need to surf on a smaller board. The wave needs more push. The suckgate helps make it smoother on one side for sure and probably about 4 inches taller than without the suckgate. The pic of me is with just a driver and 2-350lb sacs you can see them evenly across the back ...with suckgate deployed. (Remember I am incredibly tall so that wave is about 2ft +

This is next level man....

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2Tall - 1996 Ski Nautique GT-40



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