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    Posted: March-14-2011 at 12:24am
Does anyone know what type and where to get a battery to fit the infloor battery box in a 95 SN? The length an width are not much of an issue. The height must be less than 7 3/4 inches or the cover will not fit on.
Is an automotive battery OK or must it be a marine battery? Should it be a starter battery or deep cycle?
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Nevermind. Did a little research. The BCI Group 48 batteries are the correct size to fit in the battery box, and a deep cycle is not really required. Just ask any battery dealer if they carry that group size.
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Group 65 fits all of our battery boxes from '78 on up to '03. The Everstart Maxx-65N has proven to be decent and inexpensive (Walmart, ~$70).

You do NOT want a deep cycle for use as a starting battery.
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Did someone actually recommend a Deep cycle? Hopefully it wasn't when you where out shopping and a dealer told you that - unless he thought you had a electric trolling motor on your boat! Yes, just as Tim mentioned, no deep cycle for starting!


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I bought the boat last November and it had an Interstate deep cycle battery in it. I'm assuming that the previous owner did not know what he was doing? I'll have a new starter battery (that fits the box) when I crank it up April 1st. I'll include a picture as soon as I get it back in the water.
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The previous owner probably thought "deep cycle" sounded more serious. Plus, they're usually marketed as "Marine" adding confusion.

Just reading up on that stuff now myself. Sounds like Deep Cycles are more to run cabin accessories etc. in bigger boats?
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Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

Sounds like Deep Cycles are more to run cabin accessories etc. in bigger boats?

Small loads over long times. Starting is a BIG load for a short time.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Bri892001 Bri892001 wrote:

Sounds like Deep Cycles are more to run cabin accessories etc. in bigger boats?

Small loads over long times. Starting is a BIG load for a short time.


Thanks Pete,
That's the best clean/simple explanation I've read.
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Just to sum it up and add one more group, Groups 34, 48, or 65 will fit the battery box.
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My Optima Marine "Dual Purpose" battery is giving up the ghost after 5 years of service. I was hoping it might go longer. That's the last Optima I buy for 200.00!
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I'm a big fan of Delco batteries.
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Originally posted by east tx skier east tx skier wrote:

Just to sum it up and add one more group, Groups 34, 48, or 65 will fit the battery box.


So, anyone of these would fit in my 93 Ski Nautique battery box, right? I'm replacing mine this weekend.

So, 65 being the ideal?

Will all Walmarts or Napas have these off the shelf typically?
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Yes either should have them in stock.
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Ok, thanks Chris.
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Ive never NOT found an Everstart MAXX-65N at Walmart... its my go-to battery choice, Ive got one in all of my boats from '78 on. The only battery boxes they dont fit in are the under the driver's seat style.
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^^Cool. Good to know. I'll be making at Walmart on my way to NH.
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After reading the post I guess I have maybe the wrong battery. I bought it a yr and half ago. Still is good put the battery on the charger and is ready. But the battery is called CarQuest, Marine All Purpose battery.And on the side of the battery it says it is for Deep Cycle and marine purpose battery. Is this battery not what I need?? Any advice would be great? Thanks
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Lee - Use it until it fails - you already spent the money!
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Will do Chris.. Thanks alot
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What do you guys think of AGM batteries vs. flooded cell? Surprised to see the Wal-Mart batteries come so highly recommended. I can get a great price on group 34 AGM's through work and was thinking of going that direction for my new boat this spring. But the group 65 Walmart is still cheaper. Seems to me that the vibration resistance and durability/maintenance free aspect of the AGM's would be a big plus. Not to mention that they usually last 5+ years, and I have seen some of my customers come in with 9 year old AGM's that just died. Worth it or not?
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Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

My Optima Marine "Dual Purpose" battery is giving up the ghost after 5 years of service. I was hoping it might go longer. That's the last Optima I buy for 200.00!


M3 I used Optima Batteries exclusively for my offshore customers and had great success until about four years ago. Everyone we were installing was only lasting a year or so. It got so bad my supplier stopped selling batteries all together. I think they changed their manufacturing process a little and it compromised the functionality of the battery.

Sorry you had trouble. I now generally stay with Interstate or Delco's. They seem to be holding up well. Allen
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Originally posted by 76tique 76tique wrote:

What do you guys think of AGM batteries vs. flooded cell? Surprised to see the Wal-Mart batteries come so highly recommended. I can get a great price on group 34 AGM's through work and was thinking of going that direction for my new boat this spring. But the group 65 Walmart is still cheaper. Seems to me that the vibration resistance and durability/maintenance free aspect of the AGM's would be a big plus. Not to mention that they usually last 5+ years, and I have seen some of my customers come in with 9 year old AGM's that just died. Worth it or not?


AGM's have been holding up pretty good for my offshore boats and have not had any complaints thus far. They are generally a little more expensive and most people that own boats now that batteries just don't last as long as they should on the marine environment so they are apprehensive to spend the extra cash.

You'll just have to determine if you want to spend the extra cash. I say if you have a lot of extra electronics, it may pay off. Just make sure if you plan on using a battery charger that it is designed for AGM's, they charge different from gel and lead acid. Allen
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It's always nice to hear when people want to keep the economy going by spending more money than needed. A decent automotive starting is fine.


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I read s was somewhere, and I'd bet it was here that there are very few battery manufacturers and many stickers. The name on the battery commands the price. This helped explain why a department store battery was performing as good as or better than a specific brand battery as they were one in the same. If this thread keeps going I'm sure that info will resurface.
I try to buy the battery with the most cold cranking hours for the dimensional size I need. Cranking is the starting power.

The big difference with a marine battery is that there are the smaller posts with wingnuts for outboard motors. These may be in addition to the larger auto style ones.

Deep cycle are used for electric driven items, trolling motors, boat lifts, golf carts, Something that runs down a battery and gets re charged over and over.
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The one thing I would love is to find the correct battery that fits my battery box. It sticks up just a little and closing the passenger seat over on top of it the seat moves a little because the battery is bigger than the box itself.

When I was sold on this carquest battery, multi purpose battery, the guy said the most important thing about marine batterys is cold cranking amps. The other brands that he was selling at the current time did not have from his experience enough cold cranking amps.

I did not know walmart sold good marine batterys?? I will have to give them a try next time.
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That guy at Carquest must have been smoking something and wanted to sell you a more expensive battery. Think about it - Cranking amps is important but what's tougher. Starting a boat at a relatively warm temp or a car at 30 below??


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Well, I went with the Everstart MAXX Group 65 from Walmart that Tim suggested. Worked great this weekend.

Word to the wize: Bring your old battery with you because they charge a $9 core charge. If you have your old battery with you, you can get the $9 back immediately. Otherwise, you have to make a return trip to the store.


Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

The one thing I would love is to find the correct battery that fits my battery box. It sticks up just a little and closing the passenger seat over on top of it the seat moves a little because the battery is bigger than the box itself.


Yes, I ran into the same problem originally. I was going to just buy a battary from my boat storage place. He actually had a good price on a good battery but it was too tall. My old battery was very small all around, it fit great, but was past it's prime.

This Group 65 size, is long and low. Fits just right in our battery boxes.
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So I went to 3 different Walmarts and I can't find this 65N battery. They say its not even on the list anymore, can't order it, nada. What gives? Folks on forums say they see them all the time. Wondering if its just my location in CO or what. Hmmmmm.

Don't really want to fork over $$$ for an Optima which is the only thing I can find that will fit.

Any other suggestions on where to find a 65, 34 battery in stock on the shelves, any other choices, brands?

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I called a Napa in Sanbornville NH (pretty small town) and he said he had about a dozen 65s on the shelf. I think the only reason I didn't go with them is because I passed a Walmart first.

It doesn't necessarily have to be anything fancy from what people seem to be saying. Any decent automotive starting battery in those sizes. It doesn't have to be marine either, because our boats used the clamps, like a car, and not the wing-nut type fasteners.
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