23' Fish Nautique Restoration Project

You do nice work sir! When is the maiden voyage?

nice tower!!! no speaker or board racks!!!

nice work there john!

aquatop wrote: A question about how you reinforce the outboard bracket to the transom. Did you have to thicken the interior before bolting on the bracket? If so how was it done and how thick with what material.   The 300hp yamaha must weight close to 600lbs and the fish nautique was not design for an outboard but I have one and want to put on a similar heavy outboard on mine. I have an Armstrong V shape bracket and wanted to install but saw that the exterior skin is only 1/2-3/4" thick and the interior skin is much thinner.

First, welcome to CCfan. Are you putting this outboard on a Fish? We'd sure love to see some pictures!

Second, take some time and go through John's complete thread on his rebuild. You will then find what he did to reinforce the transom.

Third, if you'd like, add your first name to your profile. Spending some time on CCfan, you'll find that most here go by first names rather than screen names.

Fouth, if you do infact have a Fish, make sure you get some pictures and text submitted for the diaries section. Not to many Fish's around so it would be a fantastic addition.

Thank you Gary, I am hoping to have some professional pictures in a few days of the inside and outside. As soon as I get them I will post them for everyone to see. She has only been wet once. It ran ok, the carb is in bad shape so I bought a new one and need to put it on. I will keep everyone posted!!

John

this may be a dumb question but did you adjust the carb? Same thing on the dizzy is the dwell/gap set correctly?

jzarski wrote: PRD WR R10. PCM says this is a Right hand rotation motor. Does this mean that it truley turns opp. of a car? If so, is the cam also a right hand cam?

Correct, yes, and yes. R = RH. Im not sure what this has to do with getting your engine running properly though.

jzarski wrote: I have had the boat in the water a few times and I can't get the motor over 3000RPM without it falling on its face. I just put a brand new in the box Holly marine Carb on it and I am still having the same issue. The timing is spot on and the dist. is also brand new. Coil seems to be fine but I have not changed that yet. Wanted to try and pick a few brains here before I just keep spending a bunch a money on things that are not bad.

I would have started asking questions before starting to throw parts (and money) at the problem, but I guess better late than never.

Before we can help, you'll need to give us some background info and some more details:

1. What transmission do you have in the boat (presumably a Velvet Drive 1:1)?
2. What prop are you running?
3. Describe how the boat runs. Does it come out of the hole strong and run right up to 3000 RPM? Does it run at a higher RPM momentarily and degrade to that level? Or is it doggy all the time and never gets above 3k?
4. What size and style Holley did you put on the boat?
5. Describe "perfect timing". Did you check the base? The advance? What did you get for total timing (at 3k RPM)?
6. Have you verified the firing order? What is it?

A plus

Its all powder coated. Thank you. I do like it alot better then the Alum look

taylor114 wrote: hi your boat project is amazing. im redoing the engine compartment currently. need to put new steering in. i know about the 10.5" throw on the correct craft unit. did you re-install this or do hydraulic? how does your turn at slow speeds? would love to hear what you think is the best option. thanks taylor

Hey Taylor,
I went with Hydraulic. It doesn't turn very good at slow speeds but if you hit the throttle a bit and back it down it respondeds well. I am not a fan of the teleflex steering systems, so I am not a good person to ask about whats better. I also went Hydro because I have another steering station in the tower. Love to see some pictures of your boat!!!

John

Hello everyone. I am in need of some transmission help. I had the tranny in my boat rebuild and have been taking it out when I get time. The other day I put the new prop on and wanted to see if she was dialed in. Well she is dialed in.... 4400RPM 41MPH on the GPS. I am so happy. Well to the issue. Backed her down to 3500 and was crusing when the the boat jerked and we lost forward. Tranny fluid all over the bildge. Took the motor and tranny and to find the front seal popped out???? What causes this. I took it back to the oerson that rebuild it but I don't want to get the run around so I am asking you all what should he tell me???

John

John,
The front seal problem is well documented in past threads.

Sorry to hear about the problem.

jzarski wrote: No clue who FFM is????

FFM is fantastic finish marine and CCfan's best trans expert Eric Lavine. You need to spend more time reading other threads here!

Pete you're not paying too much attention to some threads... but Eric's no longer in FFM or the trans repair bussines.

I dont know if he would do one for a CCFAN though.

jzarski wrote: It will cost a fortune to ship that heavy little thing. I am doing a search now. :)

Not really. It will fit into a plastic milk crate that you screw a plywood top to. Then, it will go UPS or FedEx. Many many here have done it.

Like I said, you need to look at some of the other threads here on CCfan!

BTW, one of the threads was regarding a member in Florida who got stung real bad by a local shop who said they could do a rebuild. It turned out this shop was real "back yard" as well and his trans blew the front seal. They "rebuilt" it again and it blew again. The member sent it up to FFM and they did a proper rebuild.

Well it looks like the pump was bad. It was not replaced in the rebuild, so I have one on order and my trany guy is doing it for me. Not the fault of anyone in my opion. Yeah he should of told me to replace the pump but at the same time I should have researched it a little more. Anyways should be back in over the weekend.

John