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BuffaloBFN ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-24-2007 Location: Gainesville,GA Status: Offline Points: 6094 |
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OUCH! Even with gas prices you could drive down here for it.
![]() I paid $2.875/bf for 8/4x6x13 and $3.21/bf for 4/4x6(only had grade A in this). The 8/4's were B&C grade but I insisted on picking a bit(they don't always appreciate that). And since I have the receipt out... 3/4" fir ply-54.95 1/2" fir ply-38.45 This was in march of this year, so some things have changed. Try getting a good measure on length and widths you'll need because you'll pay extra for longer and wider. Also nix the antique and grade A stuff. Good luck! |
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sanity ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799 |
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Pete,
Two more places have it. West Elizabeth Lumber is out, as they gave me a price of 1717.00 per 2x8x16! The other place might be a winner. Holt and Bugbee. They are somewhere near Penn State. Their's is kiln dried. They gave a price of 305.50 for 2-2x10x14. They also have the 1x6's. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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Michelle,
I'd keep looking! What he has is "reclaimed" wood. Very trendy now for high end interior trim/paneling/molding/etc. They salvage it from old barns and old industrial buildings then resaw and remill it. A board foot is a volumetric measurement. It's 144 cu. in. so if you had a piece of wood 12" square by 1" thick, that's a board foot. Using the $7 figure,this means that the a 2x6 will be $7 a running foot!! The fir you want, is common to home construction (the 2x8 joist in your floor) but in some parts of the country other species are used. Keep calling around to the lumber yards. |
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sanity ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799 |
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I found Douglas Fir! The guy from Grove City called back. Now I have a few more questions.
![]() He said it was antique wood. He asked if I wanted clear or select and he said it goes down from there.He asked which way I would prefer the grain to go. Price-wise, I asked for worst case scenerio ![]() |
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sanity ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799 |
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Thanks, Riley! The train probably goes right by me here on the river.
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sanity ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799 |
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8122pbrainard,
I went to the site that you referenced and found a company "Timber Trails" in Grove City, PA. I left a message. Great site! I am in between Pgh and Grove City. Again, I'll keep you updated! |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7952 |
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I'll called Phinney Lumber in Gorham, Maine and they can get all types of it, and by the piece. It probably has to go through PA to get to Maine!
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sanity ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799 |
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I have tried every lumber yard. Ohio Valley is checking into their suppliers and are calling me back today. I called Baird Brothers located in Canfield, OH and they said I had to purchase a pallet.I work for a construction company and I have called every business that was suggested I call. This has become an obsession now.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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If you don't have any luck at a decent lumber yard, I have used this site a couple times looking for marine mahogany ply.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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I just want to reinforce/clarify Bruce's and Greg's recommendation. A home improvement center is not a lumber yard. |
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BuffaloBFN ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-24-2007 Location: Gainesville,GA Status: Offline Points: 6094 |
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It's worth looking for someone that has it in stock. If you special order it you are likely to be stuck with what comes in. As mentioned above, look for the largest lumber yard in your area. If they don't have it, they can usually point you in the right direction.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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PLEASE post the name of this boat repair company so no one here takes a boat to them. They must be smoking something in the back room!! I'm glad you caught on that treated is bad. The chemicals will screw up the bond with the epoxy resin. What part of the country do you live in. Doug Fir (not pine like you mentioned) can be hard to get in some parts - it comes out of the Pacific northwest. Greg, (BuffaloBFN) of the "pumpkin Patch" fame, is in Atlanta and he found it. Edit: I just noticed you're in PA!! Take Bruce's (Riley) advice. |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7952 |
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I'm in Maine and my local lumber yard can get it in all kinds of sizes. Don't see why PA would be any different. Try a local lumber yard, not HD or Lowes. It's not cheap. 1x6 is $3.47/foot.
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sanity ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799 |
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Thank you for getting straight to the point on the "why". And thank you for adding comparisons.
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sanity ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799 |
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OMG...I've looked at so many threads and other sites regarding the "why" douglas pine and I suppose it's made me dizzy. I'm having a very hard time finding it. I called a local boat repair co. and he suggested treated? Doesn't sound good to me. Where there's a will, there's a way, I hope.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41040 |
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It's been used for years because it's strength to weight ratio is great. It's also pretty stable with proper drying and maintaining a consistent moisture content. Available in long clear lengths and pretty easy to work with.
Before the Doug Fir, Sitka Spruce was used and is even better but now, it would be hard to find. (you would need to go to Siberia!) White oak is too heavy. Cedar isn't clear enough. Yellow pine has the strength but it's rot resistance is poor. So, the alternate would be a composite. Have you seen Joe's (JoeinNY) thread? |
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sanity ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 799 |
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Why douglas fir for new stringers? Any different opinions?
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