mopar maniacs

Definately Unique.

phatsat67 wrote: Maybe we can maranize a 426 for my boat:)

don't think so you talk too much sh*t about mastercraps. But maybe we'll see, your on double secrete probation ya know.

phatsat67 wrote: Haha nice comment dean wermer. ;) A hemi would be one damned heavy motor to put in a ski boat.

Yea , but what the heck ? Atleast you could say you had one .

OK, since someone else brought up the Mopar, I'll update Marshall Morgan's 340 Mustang status since he doesn't seem to have the time. Summed up in one word, stout. After the morally painful debut at GL, the engine came home, was torn back down and reassembled with all new bearings. We won't go into the problems or causes, but it had wiped out a brand new camshaft in 5 hrs of running. Last Sunday however was show time, as my "loud" blue Mustang was back from GL. With 62wood as official in-boat witness, we ran them from 30mph-up, from idle, and any other way we could think of, and they ran dead even every time, maxxing out at 55 on this day. I was a little disappointed that the 340 didn't run a little faster, but we've yet to do any fine tuning. Timing is stock, and mechanic Jerry has been teasing Marshall saying there's two distributor settings on it, a nicely retarded "M" setting for Marshall, and "R" for Reid or race, all in the interest of making it last, at least while Marshall's running it. The 340 has 2.02/1.6 ported iron heads which may attribute to it not coming out of the hole quite like BoatDrs, but from 3500-5100, it's like a bomb going off. Plus it's still running thru the stock iron log style exhausts. I've got some of these nice Mopar SB center-rise manifolds which have large and long-running individual tubes, but sorry Marshall. These are still available new in the marketplace and have "Chrysler" in raised letters on the other side if anyone's interested. Come next July at GL, Marshall's boat'll be the new target, so shift your aim Doc, TRbenj,and Joe,etc,etc, as the 340 will only get faster.   
       

TRBenj wrote: reidp wrote: Come next July at GL, Marshall's boat'll be the new target, so shift your aim Doc, TRbenj,and Joe,etc,etc, as the 340 will only get faster. I dont think Ill have anything in the hunt next year... maybe '09. Does that mean you'll be resting on your laurels for '08 as well? No it just means I lie almost as well as you. I've already heard rumors about you and uncle's boat. Does Marshall's boat still have the hook in it? I think Doc told me he's running the same 12x13 OJ as you are, Reid... is that right? If thats still the best prop to run on the '71 Mustang hull, I may be in the market for one in the spring.

I'm running the 12x13 OJ with a 308 engine, and Doc's is a 12x14 for the extra cubes of the 331 and each boat turning roughly the same rpm. Let that be your decision maker on which size. But based on that and knowing your competitive spirit, you'll probably need a 12x20! Marshall's hull is still original, but has always run a better angle/faster hull than mine originally.

[QUOTE=TRBenj] Sandbagger!
Funny how Doc's turning a bigger prop the same RPM but youre still 3MPH faster. I guess it goes to show how much drag factors into top speed. ]I'm not sure that Doc is running 3 mph slower anymore, as he's just now got his boat turning 5200, while up in GL it was 49-5000 I think he said. Something about removing a dead possum that was stuck in the jets. Ill have to pick your brain next year about grinding the hook out of my nose-planted '90.
Ouch. I really wish you wouldn't do that to such a nice boat, not to say that it would ruin anything, plus we don't have any experience in a modern hull. I would hope you could somehow be satisfied with the best holeshot in North America and get the speed out of that Skier. But you're the boss.
So both the 12x13 and 12x14 are stock OJ props? Ill have to see what's on the Skier when I buy it and see if its worth making a change. I hope to turn that boat into a strong runner come 2009. Man, that seems so far away.[/QUOTE

Blink your eyes twice and it'll be here.

Tim if you grind through the gel cote on that boat we are going to have to check you into some sort of speed freak rehab, I mean blowers, nitrous, whatever but cutting up a pristine hull that puts out a near pefect slalom wake that I cannot condone.

I am still trying to decide when to leave enough alone on the 83 and go back to the mustang, but first I have taken Tim's advice and finally given cam research a call so I have a few more tweaks with the 83 to go. I have been back running the acme 542 equilivent prop lately I (I mighta bent my higher pitch one a bit) and it seems to really flex and lose efficiency after about 5000 rpm I am starting to wonder if a stainless prop isnt in order.. Tim wheres the prop comparison data?

Tim, the addiction of speed is a progressive disease, it will go into remission for a while, BUT.
There is either Rehab,or an unlimited checking account.
There is a check list that will tell how far this " thing" has gone. Some danger signs are as follows;
1] Stroking brings to mind motors and not madams
2]Head Job refers to 2.02 or larger valves
3]Viagra is not needed in this forum
Do you get my drift Tim my boy??????

Joe, Not knowing the type of gears used (straight cut, spiral, etc.) my gut feeling is around .5% loss through the gear set. Tell me the gear type and I can get into it farther.

TRBenj wrote: I didnt realize how planted the nose runs until I watched from a distance as Keith drove a few sets through the slalom course. That would explain why Im not getting more top end than a typical ProBoss, even though I easily have 50-70 more hp. Just a few more MPH would be nice. The real speed will be built into the next boat.

For the record, that boat has an unusually soft 15 off wake IMO. Maybe that's part of it. I couldn't believe the difference between it and the 1995 that I test drove. It's also softer than the Response LX and Sportster that I put dozens of hours behind! I was almost disappointed that the TSC 1 15 off wake wasn't any night-and-day difference relative to that 90.

TRBenj wrote: Joel, that makes perfect sense. If possible, Id like to work a little of the hook out if I can. It would be easy to add back in, as SkiBum is finding out.

Ok, but relative to that post- a minor correction. The TSC 1 hull has a relief pocket aft of the rudder. Sorry for the OT post!

Relief Pocket