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89Nautique2001
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Posted: May-07-2007 at 10:20pm |
I have a 89 ski nautique, it is in near mint condition & hardly ever sits in the sun. The gelcoat is yellowing on the top surfaces. What causes this? Is there any way to get it off? Thanks
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79Tique
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Try a power buffer with a color restoring compound. Worked great for my 79 Ski Tique. I don't know what causes the yellowing but the buffer and combound was the fix. Leaves it with a like new shing as well.
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JoeinNY
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I would try a small area with one of the acid based hull cleaners before buffing, sometimes that yellow wipes right off.
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TRBenj
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I had the same problem. Hull cleaner and buffing wouldnt touch the color, though they did restore the shine. My solution involved wetsanding the deck down to 320 grit.
Ive shared my methods and the products I used on here before- just do a search if youre interested. |
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8122pbrainard
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Hey Tim, I've seen the pictures in your first posting but didn't notice the chemical toilet outside the window. Is your shop out in the woods or whats the deal!! I've always done what bears do in the woods!
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TRBenj
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Ha- you talking about the garbage cans? Thats my parents garage in CT- Im from a smaller (pop. 8,000) rural town but its not exactly out in the woods. Believe it or not, we do have indoor plumbing! |
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8122pbrainard
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That's a garbage can? looks like a toilet seat on top of it!
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Thephantomkaw
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I bought some stuff on ebay called "gelcoat restore." It did a great job! It removed the "cloudyness" and restored the shine! I don't know how long it will last though?
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TRBenj
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Thats the lid from the tan can on top of the green one. Id be hesitant to go with any of those so-called miracle color restorers like Poliglo (I assume the ebay stuff would work similarly). They add material to the surface to improve the shine, rather than removing the faded, oxidized gel. Either way, that type of stuff is only good for restoring shine, not color. The only way to bring back the original color is to sand off the faded gel, then buff it to a shine. |
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Thephantomkaw
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Yeah like I said.. I am not sure how long it will last... but I guess it was a good quick fix. TRB, Do you think it will make the oxidation worse in the long run?
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TRBenj
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Im certainly no gelcoat expert, but I doubt it. Im guessing it acts like a sealer, so protecting the gelcoat from the elements would still be better than nothing. Might want to ask an expert though. |
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duffnit
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89 2001, I sympathize with your yellowing gelcoat. While my 89 is not in mint condition, it too has a yellowing gelcoat problem. I recently realized how much when I removed the bow vinyl.
I can only assume wet sanding will resolve the problem, but who has the time. Tim (TRBenj) did a great job on his as well as others here. I hope to have the time and stamina to do mine at some point. Take the time and research wet sanding within this site. Many great successes, and lots of good info. d |
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8122pbrainard
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Wet sanding will not bring the gel back to it's virgin color that you find under vinyl graphics. It's the reason I had to re gel my entire transom from the previous owners naming the boat. Also the reason I had to have the larger pre 80 "since" decals made. By the way, They aren't selling like I thought they would!!
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TRBenj
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I dont know about that. The reason I decided to wetsand in the first place was because I pulled up a few original warning stickers, exposing bright white gel underneath. Now you'd have a tough time telling where those stickers were originally placed. |
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8122pbrainard
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Tim, Which boat? the 90 or the 78. I'm refering to my 77 and trust me I got up to wet sanding with 320 and got to a point that I was afraid of sanding through the gel! If it was on your 90, didn't they have a different type of resin?
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TRBenj
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Im talking about the '90. I spent a lot of time last summer/spring bringing the gel on the top deck back into shape. I know CC switched up the type of gelcoat sometime in the 80's- Ive heard 86 or 87, so its likely different from our Tiques. I believe the original poster's '89 should be the same as my '90 though. |
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scott8370
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320 grit to wet sand? How thick is the gel sprayed at the factory? I would guess no more than 25mils. By the time you get all the sand scratches out, there won't be much gel thickness left. Maybe it's more than 25mils..does anyone know??? Scott
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seems a bit extreme, but if its beat to piss then i guess you got no choice
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Chopper
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I have now completed one side of my 89 wet sand process. Similar to TRB's comments, I would think that you would be hard pressed to identify where my old vinyl decals were. I too used 320 grit to restore the colour & worked up from there.
Of note though, I still have not been able to restore the white to the colour under the vinyl. |
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89Nautique2001
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TRBenj, will I have to worry about sanding or buffing through? Also, what kind of compound did you use. I appreciate all of the replies!
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TRBenj
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Dont sand any more than you have to. I couldnt tell you exactly how far is too far- but I didnt have any issues with sanding through. The gel is pretty darn thick. I posted my methods and products in this thread. |
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TRBenj
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I couldnt tell you exactly- hopefully someone else will know. Looking at the holes I have drilled through my deck though, Id say its at least twice that. |
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