1976 Ski Nautique Restoration Project |
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robdubbleu
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Some of you helped me out in my thread about my 1974 SN where I was trying to get help with bringing the boat home (from my grandparents' place). Well turns out the boat is actually a '76. Thanks to some of you, I was able to purchase the correct hubs for the trailer, replace them, and put on new wheels and tires. Got it home with no problems. As I think I mentioned in my other thread, it's not running right now but I think the carburetor needs a cleaning or rebuild (and the olllld gas removed from it). Check it out...
One of the first things I would like to do while trying to get it running is replace this hose. Where's the best place to get it? |
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Gary S
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robdubbleu
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Thanks! What's on there now is a metal fuel line from the fuel pump which then connects to the rubber hose pictured above. I assume the first one in the list on skidim just replaces the whole thing with a metal fuel line? You said mine isn't a PCM... do you mean the fuel hose in question is not PCM? Because the engine is. Thanks! |
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Gary S
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I was just guessing, I would have thought it was a Commander conversion back in those years. Commander was eventually bought up by PCM. Yes on that first metal line,thats what was on there originally,some where along the way someone cut some off and added the rubber hose.
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robdubbleu
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I see. I'll definitely order a solid line. The top of the flame arrestor cover says Pleasurecraft on it, so I'm guessing it's PCM...? I don't really know anything about the Commander conversion |
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8122pbrainard
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Rob,
The metal line from Skidim works although there may be some slight tweaking needed on the bends. |
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TRBenj
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That is not a commander conversion... it looks genuine pcm right down to the decal on the flame arrestor.
Gary, Waukesha became pcm and were available as early as '72. |
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KENO
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Your carburetor pictures tell me a few things about your carburetor One is that the 4 bowl plugs, 2 on each bowl have been epoxied over, probably because they leaked at some point. Or at least the 2 top ones that are visible have been epoxied. In this link to an old thread you can see what the plugs look like. There's an O ring that goes bad and plenty of people have epoxied them with good results. It also looks like a later carburetor than what came on the 76 PCM's based on where the fuel pump overflow line taps into the carburetor and also the non externally adjustable float bowls that came along in later years. None of these are bad things by the way. Kinda tells me they did some maintenance and replaced some parts to keep it running good If you're looking for a rebuild kit for the carburetor, find the list number on the air horn to help you get the right kit. Here's a picture of where to find it [/QUOTE] |
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KENO
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Looks like they also put on the rubber rub rail with a rope insert that didn't show up till after 76. At least mine didn't have one when it was new and I got the rubber one a few years later
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8122pbrainard
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Ken, I thought the rubber/rope came in 78 but I certainly could be wrong. My 77 has the old aluminum J. |
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robdubbleu
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Thanks for all the info, guys! Keep it coming!
I have already contacted Holley and determined that rebuild kit 703-29 is correct for my carb (List - 50463) I'm going to order the kit, as well as a solid metal fuel line. Then I just need to find somebody who knows what they're doing to rebuild it, or help me do it. |
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robdubbleu
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Anything else you guys think I should check/replace right away? How hard is it to remove the fuel tank? There's some debris (and very old gas) in it so I'd like to clean it out.
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swilliams
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Interesting, my 76 Martinique has the rope rub rail. From the inside I cannot honestly see any extra holes through the fiberglass. Art may know if it was available at that time.
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1976 Martinique,350 Omc. 1975 Glastron/Carlson CV16,115 Merc.
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Dreaming
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lots of you tube videos on rebuilding Holleys. I think if you have a pulse and a desire to rebuild one, you can probably do most of it without help. There are a few things that will get you, but if you lay everything out in an organized way, and go through the process meticulously, there aren't many places that will hang you up. There is a special clutch bit screw driver blade that you will need to remove the secondary metering block, and Holley recommends a jet screw driver instead of a flat blade for removing/installing jets. the rest is just labor, lots of scrubbing and blowing out of orifices with compressed air. you need to soak carbs in a carb cleaning solution to get them clean, so invest in one of the bucket set ups from your local auto parts store.
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KENO
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I didn't have to make any extra holes in the fiberglass, but poked a lot of holes in the rubber to match the existing holes in the fiberglass. According to the brochures in the reference section the first year was 1979. I remember it like it only happened about 38 years ago |
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robdubbleu
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Can anyone give me confirmation that the fuel feed hose I need is 3/8" I.D.? (Fuel tank to the engine) 12 feet should be more than plenty, right?
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KENO
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3/8 is the right size. 12 ft should be good.
USCG A1-15 0r B1-15 rated hose is what you want. The A1 is not much more expensive than the B1. They're both more fire resistant than regular automotive hose and is what you need to be USCG legal and keep yourself safer. You can't go wrong with the A1-15 link to fuel system requirements see page 72 |
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robdubbleu
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Thanks KENO! The hose one skidim is listed as A1, no mention of the 15. Should be the right stuff I'm guessing?
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KENO
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They probably have A1-15. It's a later version of the A1 that not only keeps the USCG happy but also the EPA. It's less permeable to gas vapor.
The A1 is being replaced with the A1-15. |
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robdubbleu
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Sorry for 1000 questions, but currently there's an inline fuel filter between the tank and the fuel pump. It's located just below the midpoint of the engine so it rests on the bottom of the bilge. Was this added by somebody after the fact or is it standard issue? Is there a better type or place to locate the filter?
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Fabcon
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Very nice boat, have fun and keep the pictures coming as you get it running.
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1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort
1984 Barefoot Nautique (Parting Out) |
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robdubbleu
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Thanks! I'm hoping to have some time to work on it this weekend.
Can anybody offer any expertise on my fuel filter question? |
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8122pbrainard
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It was added probably due to junk in the tank. |
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waterdude49
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Pretty Boat! Looks a lot like my 1978!
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Bri892001
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If you wanted to keep the same fuel filter arrangement, you could put one of these in its place as you do the new fuel line. It's fine as long it's on the suction side of the fuel pump. It would be dangerous on the pressure side of the fuel pump.
https://www.nautiqueparts.com/product/fuel-filter-in-line-pcm-r080024a/ |
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Hollywood
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If you use barbed fittings and not hacked off metal fuel line you can safely use the rubber A1 hose from the pump to the carb.
That fuel filter isn't hurting anything. I have a 76 Southwind with a rubber/rope rub rail. |
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DrCC
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Luv the Rubber/Rope !!! I don't freak when I get close to the dock anymore.
But yeah, other models received the rope before the Nautique did. |
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Keep it....from sinkin'
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Gary S
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I love the rubber rub rail too. When you careen into someones Blackfin,it cleans right off!
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robdubbleu
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My grandfather had this boat converted to electronic ignition several years ago. Is anyone able to identify the brand used?
EDIT: Sorry for the sideways pics.... |
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KENO
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That's the Prestolite conversion for their own Prestolite distributors.
It's no longer being made but they were a dependable setup |
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