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Hansel
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Riley, that is a great way to think about it! Thanks Alan for putting up with the Peanut Gallery. |
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81nautique
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I was referring to Tim D's 2001 drawing , if you want to use his mustang drawing that would work fine, we'll just add another exhaust port.
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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Riley
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Here's another, but oh no Hollywood, snaps!
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Riley
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He's another transom that may help with the drawing.
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TRBenj
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I agree with Chris and Gary... No one is going to understand the t-short but us anyways. The saying is cool but doesn't make as much sense when applied to boats- but I don't care. Let this one be a Mustang, I too have a dozen shirts with a SN on it.
TimD's replication of Bruces picture is much nicer than Chris's drawing that I tweaked. If it can be massaged a bit to include larger dual exhaust then that'd get my vote. Of course, a later 60's mustang with the transom pad taken from a lower angle might be an even better starting point... Let me make a few calls. |
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Riley
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Alan, the shirt is great in any of the drawings and fonts. I'll buy 5. Just about every shirt I own is esoteric in one way or another. It makes for a great conversation opener.
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81nautique
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Two points, as Hansel said this is an internal shirt for ccfans, I have seen every order we've ever produced and 99% of sales are from forum members so don't worry about what the masses think. this is your shirt, do what you want.
Second , Tim D's design is awesome but keep in mind I'd have to get permission to produce if or anything we put Correct craft or Nautique on, not saying they wouldn't approve but I was thinking this would be something we could push through quickly and get to market if we wanted to. I'll throw this out there to Tim D. You do some nice work. If you've some ideas/designs you would like to sell in the ccfan store please get in touch with me and we'll see if we can make it happen. I have very little skin in the game here and money is not why we do this, the more we can offer the fans the better. |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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Hansel
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I don't think for a moment that anybody other than a CCFan would likely buy/wear these shirts. I only mean to say that the more esoteric the design becomes the fewer outside observers will understand that it is boats and the way they sound that you like, and not that you are into Lord know what kind of pipes that apparently save lives and "Hmm... What's that thing in the middle?"
Maybe that matters to you, maybe it doesn't. |
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74Wind
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Go Gary..Go Gary... PO of my Southwind absurdly adhered a "Ski Nautique" sticker to the side windshield; which I would remove..... if I could ever remember to bring a razorblade to the lake. I certainly have nothing against the word Nautique, but Correct Craft has been "on the waters of the world since 1925". |
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IAughtNaut
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I like both ideas for the front...either the nose or the profile, especially on a pocket tee, i'd buy a half dozen of those. my boat doesn't always fit in with this crowd because it was built after I was born, but I'm all for the old school lines, mustang, skier, 1st gen sn, take your pick. to hell with the harley guys (no offense to any present) I've always liked John's signature, and as for mass appeal, I don't think this was ever intended for everyone...we'll know what it is. I'd rather wear a shirt I like than some ed hardy/affliction attrocity any d-bag can buy at hot topic.
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Gary S
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While for 30 years you guys have been able to buy your Ski Nautique shirts we have had zip. There will be more Ski Nautique shirts for you to buy in the future I'm sure. I think you can let us have one.
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74Wind
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Agreed, "the average person on the street" would have no clue what it means regardless of the picayune design details. Inboarders would get it; if not, who cares.....and I'll surely buy the final design. As on old-schooler with two 40 year old inboards, I'd disagree with adding "Ski Nautique" however. There are still some great classic dual-pipe SN's out there, but at this point in 2014 I think most SNs suffer severely from a lack of "loud pipes".......(no offense intended). |
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storm34
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I don't disagree with the 2001, or any year ski Nautique, being more recognizable. In my opinion this is a way to diversify what Alan is providing a bit. The 2001 has appeared on many shirts, I'm wearing one now, and there's plenty of Ski Nautique or Nautique gear available either from Nautique or dealers.
The Mustang hull is something different and something were all familiar with but haven't had the chance to wear on a shirt. As for it being recognizable to the market, I doubt we're going to see a huge percentage of purchases from outside the site so public opinion doesn't mean much IMHO. If we're trying to build a profit center for the site then that changes the conversation. |
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Tim D
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This pic is only 96 dpi. I kept shrinking it to upload directly, but gave up and put it on photobucket after I made it smaller.
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john b
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If you are going to make a shirt I agree with M3. Few know what a Mustang is, few don't know what a Ski Nautique is.
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If everyone else is doing it, you're too late! |
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cboland
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Agreed. The 2001 shirt is awesome.
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M3Fan
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Sorry guys but this is a way better design, IMO than the Mustang or whatever random/anonymous older boat hull was being shown in the initial design ideas. I want a definitive, obvious competition ski boat in a shirt like this because I'm a water skier and that is what I do with these boats. 2001 FTW on a shirt like this. KILLER graphic and I'd buy this shirt in a second. |
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Hansel
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I like where the design is going and have no problem with riffing on HD but I think it is worth saying that a transom view, while instantly recognizable to us, will probably not be recognizable as a boat, let along the rear of one, by the average person on the street. If the shirt is purely about making CCFans happy maybe that doesn't matter.
Still, it might be worth exploring a design that makes it obvious to the lay person that it is the exhaust note of a boat we are talking about here. For example, you could have the boat turned 45 deg left or right in profile, and you could (let's just get crazy here) design it to look like it is taking off and getting up on plane. An example of the type of profile I would imagine is below. With this design you could even work in the "Ski Nautique" that we all know and love with little/no effort. I'm not advocating for a TSC3 hull, its just the first internet image I could find. If we really wanted to get nuts we could cartoonize the exhaust a bit to emphasize it. Somebody has to have a photo of a transom pad boat like this you could base it off of. Surely there exists dozens of Tim's BFN doing a liftoff at the very least. Then again, most folks may not even recognize what I am proposing as a boat either... I just don't have much confidence that Joe Schmo will be able to even identify that the image on the shirt is a boat, let alone the "pipes" that "saves lives" (haha, that was a great typo, not making fun of you Alan) in the design as it currently stands. Again, if we don't care what other people see/think then who cares. But if we do, it might be worth market testing the design on some lay people for their input at the very least. JM2C |
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P71_CrownVic
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Should be "DUAL pipes save lives"
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JPASS
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Probably because it was pretty rare. It was built in 1993-94 in attempts to compete in Superbike racing. It failed miserably against the Italian and Japanese superbikes of the day, but it is still a cool bike. Very different from the Harleys past and present at that time. DOHC, water cooled, FI, etc. It was red on one side, black on the other, with a white stripe down the center. More Specs |
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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique
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kylem428
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How about a reciprocal print on the front showing a view looking down the nose of the bow with the text "correct craft" in the same scale?
Too cheesy?? Kyle |
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peter1234
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why do i not know the vr 1000 sweet
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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JPASS
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I like the shirt designs. Maybe put the profile of the boat on the front "pocket area" and the rear of the boat on the back???
As for the Harleys, I always liked the VR1000 |
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'92 Correctcraft Ski Nautique
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peter1234
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bruce ... get one and we can meet in portland for a coast ride to belfast or anywhere... buy a touring frame we are old
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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Riley
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My BIL bought 2 Nighters last year, an orange one and a flat black one. Nice bikes. He's always trying to get me on one.
I think the slogan is fine, but even the 60's Correct Craft script would look great over the drawing. |
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storm34
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I agree with Hollywood. It's been a theme around here for quite some time so as long as there aren't legal repercussions I don't care. Or switch to a NWZ and say "Loud Y-Pipes Save Lives" |
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peter1234
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I agree zach , i now have a second harley, it is going to be as my other , black, aluminum and chrome, i do have to wear chaps at times here they block wind and cold like nothing else but there are many times i ride in my timberland boat shoes.. i would also pipe in with something close to the harley , loud pipes save lives is too close to the bike logo, i would lean to something like "classic boat --classic sound"
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former skylark owner now a formula but I cant let this place go
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Hollywood
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I thought ripping off the saying and applying it to a boat (a correct craft) was the point.
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Hollywood
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LOUD BOAT PIPES
SAVED LIVES |
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