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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

The typical '69-72 bow light is that small round one, like this:


THANK YOU!!!!!!

I was seriously going to rip out that small one and put in my 1968's, glad i didn't.


Well i officially have a nice 1968 bow light for sale.

I'll upload some nice pictures and post it in the for sale section.
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Whats the hull number on that green boat? Another flat topped motorbox in a '69 with a H-M, what do you know! Still havent seen a H-M with the curvy glass motorbox, or a pre-70 with the flat top over anything but a H-M.

The bow light, rear scoop location, fiberglass buckets, dash and added front scoop were all '69 changes. Though, Ive seen some late 68's and early 69's with a mix of the new and old parts. The typical '69-72 bow light is that small round one, like this:

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Originally posted by turningpoint84 turningpoint84 wrote:


Yeah, but that dash i believe was used from 66-68, the 65's look like they just had them placed in the dash and not on a panel.

and yes the deck is a 65 or earlier, it just doesn't add up date wise to me, unless I'm mistaken.

Ive never seen a Mustang with the American Skier style dash (individual gauges in the dash instead of in a panel) that youre describing. I dont believe anyone has confirmed that Mustangs were actually made in '65. If '66 was in fact the first year of the Mustang, then I would agree on that panel being used '66


My 1965 4 cylinder had the flat deck, floor shifter, foot peddle, and the gauges were placed individually across the dash. It topped out between 28-30 mph. On my lake there is it's identical twin with the exception of the engine. It's a V8. I will stop by and check it out again this summer. 15yrs ago when I talked to the owner, who was elderly, he said it was a 1964. Maybe the 1965 debuted mid year and sometime durring the production run they updated the dash. I've always wondered why the mustang wasn't in the 1965 Brochure.

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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

Nice fleet John,you guy's look like you might like Correct Crafts Your Dads and mine look like twins.


Yeah can you take some more pictures of your dad's. Looks a ton like mine also, minus the ss and HM engine. We got triplets! mine is a 70 also.

What should a 1970's navigational light look like? is it a smaller one? or the bigger one's like on the 68's?


Also crabman you mentioned you were in OH, you could look into this 1966 skylark? it has a super sabre v6.

I also have a couple of parts that the skylark is missing, rub rail an a few other things, might be a cheaper option and would leave you with plenty of room to buy parts to it.

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Thank you for the kind words, we def. like the CC's. The Green Mustang is a 69' and Gary's twin is a 70'. Were always on the look out for the next one
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Nice fleet John,you guy's look like you might like Correct Crafts Your Dads and mine look like twins.
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Nice mustangs! Green one is a '70, is the blue one a '69 or '70?

The more I think about that rear seat base, I bet the bottom portion was cut off.
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Very nice! I'm sure glad to see you're keeping them original!


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A friends Mustang that also lives on the lake the other Holman Moody.



Some more pictures of the Skylark.



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Still iffy on the whole thing trying to use U-ship now but we shall see how that works out. Dad's Mustang if in the process of being full restored.

Dad's skier, sorry for the bad picture or lack there of only one I could find.


Old boat before we sold (Orange and Black)


Dad's Holman that's in the process of getting rebuilt, then engine is done just needs to get put back together.




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My guess because of the lever it now has that it most likely had a foot pedal but who knows. You most likely could find a replacement,my twin sticks had been replaced by a single lever Morse and I found some originals.I think the price is not bad,too bad it's far away. Whats the deal with your Dads Mustang? year color etc?
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He has about $200. That's what I thought, the original was a Morse right ? I am just really wondering if it was supposed to have a foot pedal in it and someone retro fitted that one in. Which I'm not sure that's enough.
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My AM did not have upholstery but you still sat on fiberglass seat bottoms,not a deal breaker though,Has he come down from his original start price? Shifter looks too cheap to be from the factory now that I see it close.
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That's what I thought about the back seat but the owner says it looks like an original factory cut. Would there have been just a wood base then or do you think that it was option and you just sat on the floor ? Yea I sort of figured that, I know a lot of owners bought 4 cyl. and put 8's in them. I also noticed it's missing the rear decals but doesn't look like there isn't any holes, that was standard on all CC's right ? Very true on the hauling comment and might just have to bite the bullet just wondering if I'm crazy or not.

He sent me a video of the shifter. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4vZm1_rOy0) It looks like the shifter might have been added at a later date.
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Looks like my tank John,they are about 18 gallons. As to investing time,that would be up to you. You can't make money on them thats for sure but it could be a fun project. Back deck looks fine but I see some crazing on the dash,see if you can get some pic's of the sides to see how they are. Don't have any idea on the rear seat though,my current boat has wood,when I had the AM it was all glass.
Did you get him below the bid start price?
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Definitely don't toss the original wheel, but keep an eye on eBay for a better example. I've never seen a rear seat base like that but it looks like its based on an original if not 100% so. I doubt an early 4cyl mustang would be considered more valuable even if uncommon, but it's a cool boat in a cool color so go for it! I've yet to find a way to bring an old boat back from a long distance cheaper or easier than loading up the truck and going to get it myself... Just too may things that could go wrong on the trip back that makes having tools and supplies worthwhile.
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Thank you all for the information it is very informative in my decision and couldn't thank you enough. I ended up getting a few more pictures from the seller and will post them below. Still waiting on the VIN. A few questions I have was the back seat cut ? There usually an L shaped piece of fiberglass and all one piece, have never seen one like this before do you think it was cut ? I know I'll need to look for a new steering wheel but was this steering wheel only on 67' and older mustangs then ? Would this be worth investing time into ? I have personally never seen any 4 cyl Mustangs with a floor shifter and I used to go the Sea World reunion in Ohio and others a lot of the time when they had them. Thank you again for you input being a newbie.













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TRBenj Thank you for the reply. I am still weighing out my options at this point with getting s vehicle arranged and also weighing out if this is a true original. I still need to call a few places about having it possibly delivered and the cost to see if it would be worth it. Renting by the mile would have to be out of the question, I might go broke at that point hauling it back.
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Tim Dave posted production numbers back in 08,from 1965 to 1974. Cannot find the thread but I did keep a paper copy of the numbers,I'll post it up in a bit. In 1965 they built 279
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Originally posted by turningpoint84 turningpoint84 wrote:


The top front is flat with ribs, it looks like a starflite quite honestly. Also has a bear claw air scoop.

In the 1966 brochure they show the mustang raised with the air grills

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Yes, we established that:

Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

I think they changed over to the scooped deck during 1966. Our is a 66 with a March build date and has the American Skier deck. The 66 brochure shows the scooped version.


There were '66's with both deck styles made, it seems. There are some '67's in the diaries with the older deck too... but who knows if the years listed are accurate.
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Originally posted by turningpoint84 turningpoint84 wrote:


Yeah, but that dash i believe was used from 66-68, the 65's look like they just had them placed in the dash and not on a panel.

and yes the deck is a 65 or earlier, it just doesn't add up date wise to me, unless I'm mistaken.

Ive never seen a Mustang with the American Skier style dash (individual gauges in the dash instead of in a panel) that youre describing. I dont believe anyone has confirmed that Mustangs were actually made in '65. If '66 was in fact the first year of the Mustang, then I would agree on that panel being used '66-68.

Still not sure how you determined the deck is a '65 or earlier- fill us in on what you see. Looks like the deck used into '66 to me.


The top front is flat with ribs, it looks like a starflite quite honestly. Also has a bear claw air scoop.

In the 1966 brochure they show the mustang raised with the air grills

http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/1966_brochure/index.asp?page=05
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Originally posted by turningpoint84 turningpoint84 wrote:


Yeah, but that dash i believe was used from 66-68, the 65's look like they just had them placed in the dash and not on a panel.

and yes the deck is a 65 or earlier, it just doesn't add up date wise to me, unless I'm mistaken.

Ive never seen a Mustang with the American Skier style dash (individual gauges in the dash instead of in a panel) that youre describing. I dont believe anyone has confirmed that Mustangs were actually made in '65. If '66 was in fact the first year of the Mustang, then I would agree on that panel being used '66-68.

Still not sure how you determined the deck is a '65 or earlier- fill us in on what you see. Looks like the deck used into '66 to me.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Morse throttle and floor shifter could have easily been a factory configuration. That is not a Morse control on the gunnel (its throttle only). Ive seen the dash shifter used with the Morse throttle on several boats slightly newer. Its also possible that the boat originally had a foot throttle instead of the gunnel mount one.

Not sure what youre talking about on the deck or dash panel, TP. Bruce is probably right about the deck (66 or earlier) and that is the earlier style dash (used through 68).


Yeah, but that dash i believe was used from 66-68, the 65's look like they just had them placed in the dash and not on a panel.

and yes the deck is a 65 or earlier, it just doesn't add up date wise to me, unless I'm mistaken.

o and good points on the throttle.
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Morse throttle and floor shifter could have easily been a factory configuration. That is not a Morse control on the gunnel (its throttle only). Ive seen the dash shifter used with the Morse throttle on several boats slightly newer. Its also possible that the boat originally had a foot throttle instead of the gunnel mount one.

Not sure what youre talking about on the deck or dash panel, TP. Bruce is probably right about the deck (66 or earlier) and that is the earlier style dash (used through 68).
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Cool looking boat, anyone else confused why it has a morse and a floor shifter?

Couple other odd things, the dash panel looks like it's from a 1966 or newer, but the hull top if definitely a pre 1965.

This sure is an odd one!



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I think they changed over to the scooped deck during 1966. Our is a 66 with a March build date and has the American Skier deck. The 66 brochure shows the scooped version.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

The Mustang's first year was 1965,no way to tell by looking at one to tell what year it is. You would have to contact the factory to find out for sure.

True... but we can narrow it down! The earlier deck would make the boat a 65-66, or possibly an early '67. My guess is '66 since the Mustang didnt make the '65 brochure (has anyone ever confirmed that Mustangs were built in '65?), and it doesnt have the later 3-spoke steering wheel that is more common on the '67's.

Careful on relying on a rental vehicle for towing... Ive inquired about this on a few occasions and every rental car company Ive checked with explicitly says they do not allow you to tow (Im guessing its in the fine print on your rental agreement as well). Sometimes they even block off or remove the hitch on vehicles that would otherwise be perfectly capable. It probably wont be wired for lights either. If you tow with it anyways (without permission) then you might be in trouble if you get in an accident. Something to think about! Renting a truck (uhaul, etc) would allow you to tow, but they usually charge by the mile... so that can get really expensive on a long haul. Bringing your own vehicle would allow you to bring along all the tools you'd probably want to have along *just in case* you have tire/bearing/spring/etc issues on your return trip with a nearly 50 year old trailer.
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As far as getting it back Gary that's still some what up in the air. It's looking like I will be getting a one way airplane ticket and getting a rental vehicle too tow it back. The owner now said he would get new tires and check the bearings for me so I wouldn't have any problems in that area.
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