What years did the offer the 4 cylinder
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Topic: What years did the offer the 4 cylinder
Posted By: crabman
Subject: What years did the offer the 4 cylinder
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 1:58am
I just wanted to introduce myself. I have been around the Correct Craft world for awhile, ever since I was a little kid. My father currently owns a Holman Moody Mustang, I am currently looking at purchasing a 4 cyl. Mustang and not sure of the year. I appreciate any help finding anything I can out about this boat shown below and thank you for any input.     Jonathan |
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 2:18am
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Welcome John. Looking at that one in Arizona eh? That engine was available long before the Mustang model was. I had one in an American Skier,same hull different deck. No speed demon but a fun boat. The Mustang's first year was 1965,no way to tell by looking at one to tell what year it is. You would have to contact the factory to find out for sure.If you have the serial post it if you could,should start with M for Mustang.Look above the banner at the top under reference- thats where the brochures are. Keep us informed,good luck ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 2:29am
| Thank you for the response Gary. Yes I am, we have quite a few older Mustangs and Skylarks on the lake I grew up on, around 8 total and I have never seen one with a floor shiftier like that one before and would be looking to restore it (I know needs a lot of work). Just out of curiosity was it about a 28-32 mph boat ? I will work on getting that and will post it as soon as I find out. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 2:40am
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Mine,a '64 had the same exact trans and shifter but had a foot throttle and a bench seat. As to speed I would think so I seem to remember running somewhere around 3400 rpms which would be around 34 ish. We left it in all summer so by the end of season the poor thing was quite slower due to the algae build up. The one thing that stands out to me other than the ones stated in the ad is that the bow light is been modified. Where are you located? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 3:12am
The foot throttle would have been cool to have in a 4 cyl. A friend that lives on the lake has a 66' Skylark with a foot throttle and column shifter in the same Sea Foam Green color and would love to have this one to add to the collection. Do you think the upper piece is suppose to also house the lighting fixture ? Like the one shown on the Skylark ? Living in Ohio right now but, all the water toys are in a town just south of Kalamazoo, MI. 
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Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 3:25am
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Yes on the light John. Curious on how you plan to get it home,that could be a long ride! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 8:00am
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Jonathan, Welcome to CCfan. There's nothing I can add to what Gary has already stated. Good luck on the purchase and I hope you get it. The boat would be a great addition to both yourself and the CCfan group. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 11:58am
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As far as getting it back Gary that's still some what up in the air. It's looking like I will be getting a one way airplane ticket and getting a rental vehicle too tow it back. The owner now said he would get new tires and check the bearings for me so I wouldn't have any problems in that area. |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 11:59am
Thank you for the warm welcome 8122pbrainard 
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 12:06pm
True... but we can narrow it down! The earlier deck would make the boat a 65-66, or possibly an early '67. My guess is '66 since the Mustang didnt make the '65 brochure (has anyone ever confirmed that Mustangs were built in '65?), and it doesnt have the later 3-spoke steering wheel that is more common on the '67's. Careful on relying on a rental vehicle for towing... Ive inquired about this on a few occasions and every rental car company Ive checked with explicitly says they do not allow you to tow (Im guessing its in the fine print on your rental agreement as well). Sometimes they even block off or remove the hitch on vehicles that would otherwise be perfectly capable. It probably wont be wired for lights either. If you tow with it anyways (without permission) then you might be in trouble if you get in an accident. Something to think about! Renting a truck (uhaul, etc) would allow you to tow, but they usually charge by the mile... so that can get really expensive on a long haul. Bringing your own vehicle would allow you to bring along all the tools you'd probably want to have along *just in case* you have tire/bearing/spring/etc issues on your return trip with a nearly 50 year old trailer. ------------- |
Gary S wrote:Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 12:09pm
| I think they changed over to the scooped deck during 1966. Our is a 66 with a March build date and has the American Skier deck. The 66 brochure shows the scooped version. |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 12:34pm
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Cool looking boat, anyone else confused why it has a morse and a floor shifter? Couple other odd things, the dash panel looks like it's from a 1966 or newer, but the hull top if definitely a pre 1965. This sure is an odd one! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Correct-Craft-Mustang-w-Title-Early-original-4cyl-Gray-Marine-about-1964-or-1965-/221192621364?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid=111000&algo=REC.CURRENT&ao=1&asc=14&meid=5790266103234609178&pid=100015&prg=1006&rk=1&sd=221192621364&&forcev4exp=true#ht_1440wt_1161" rel="nofollow - 1964 mustang ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 1:08pm
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Morse throttle and floor shifter could have easily been a factory configuration. That is not a Morse control on the gunnel (its throttle only). Ive seen the dash shifter used with the Morse throttle on several boats slightly newer. Its also possible that the boat originally had a foot throttle instead of the gunnel mount one. Not sure what youre talking about on the deck or dash panel, TP. Bruce is probably right about the deck (66 or earlier) and that is the earlier style dash (used through 68). ------------- |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 1:29pm
Yeah, but that dash i believe was used from 66-68, the 65's look like they just had them placed in the dash and not on a panel. and yes the deck is a 65 or earlier, it just doesn't add up date wise to me, unless I'm mistaken. o and good points on the throttle. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 1:35pm
Ive never seen a Mustang with the American Skier style dash (individual gauges in the dash instead of in a panel) that youre describing. I dont believe anyone has confirmed that Mustangs were actually made in '65. If '66 was in fact the first year of the Mustang, then I would agree on that panel being used '66-68. Still not sure how you determined the deck is a '65 or earlier- fill us in on what you see. Looks like the deck used into '66 to me. ------------- |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 2:01pm
The top front is flat with ribs, it looks like a starflite quite honestly. Also has a bear claw air scoop. In the 1966 brochure they show the mustang raised with the air grills http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/1966_brochure/index.asp?page=05" rel="nofollow - http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reference/1966_brochure/index.asp?page=05 ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 2:07pm
*sigh* Yes, we established that:
There were '66's with both deck styles made, it seems. There are some '67's in the diaries with the older deck too... but who knows if the years listed are accurate. ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 2:23pm
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Tim Dave posted production numbers back in 08,from 1965 to 1974. Cannot find the thread but I did keep a paper copy of the numbers,I'll post it up in a bit. In 1965 they built 279 ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 2:36pm
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Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 11:30pm
| TRBenj Thank you for the reply. I am still weighing out my options at this point with getting s vehicle arranged and also weighing out if this is a true original. I still need to call a few places about having it possibly delivered and the cost to see if it would be worth it. Renting by the mile would have to be out of the question, I might go broke at that point hauling it back. |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-05-2013 at 11:49pm
Thank you all for the information it is very informative in my decision and couldn't thank you enough. I ended up getting a few more pictures from the seller and will post them below. Still waiting on the VIN. A few questions I have was the back seat cut ? There usually an L shaped piece of fiberglass and all one piece, have never seen one like this before do you think it was cut ? I know I'll need to look for a new steering wheel but was this steering wheel only on 67' and older mustangs then ? Would this be worth investing time into ? I have personally never seen any 4 cyl Mustangs with a floor shifter and I used to go the Sea World reunion in Ohio and others a lot of the time when they had them. Thank you again for you input being a newbie.       |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 12:46am
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Definitely don't toss the original wheel, but keep an eye on eBay for a better example. I've never seen a rear seat base like that but it looks like its based on an original if not 100% so. I doubt an early 4cyl mustang would be considered more valuable even if uncommon, but it's a cool boat in a cool color so go for it! I've yet to find a way to bring an old boat back from a long distance cheaper or easier than loading up the truck and going to get it myself... Just too may things that could go wrong on the trip back that makes having tools and supplies worthwhile. ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 1:17am
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Looks like my tank John,they are about 18 gallons. As to investing time,that would be up to you. You can't make money on them thats for sure but it could be a fun project. Back deck looks fine but I see some crazing on the dash,see if you can get some pic's of the sides to see how they are. Don't have any idea on the rear seat though,my current boat has wood,when I had the AM it was all glass. Did you get him below the bid start price? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 1:19am
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That's what I thought about the back seat but the owner says it looks like an original factory cut. Would there have been just a wood base then or do you think that it was option and you just sat on the floor ? Yea I sort of figured that, I know a lot of owners bought 4 cyl. and put 8's in them. I also noticed it's missing the rear decals but doesn't look like there isn't any holes, that was standard on all CC's right ? Very true on the hauling comment and might just have to bite the bullet just wondering if I'm crazy or not. He sent me a video of the shifter. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4vZm1_rOy0) It looks like the shifter might have been added at a later date. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 1:36am
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My AM did not have upholstery but you still sat on fiberglass seat bottoms,not a deal breaker though,Has he come down from his original start price? Shifter looks too cheap to be from the factory now that I see it close. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 1:52am
| He has about $200. That's what I thought, the original was a Morse right ? I am just really wondering if it was supposed to have a foot pedal in it and someone retro fitted that one in. Which I'm not sure that's enough. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 2:39am
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My guess because of the lever it now has that it most likely had a foot pedal but who knows. You most likely could find a replacement,my twin sticks had been replaced by a single lever Morse and I found some originals.I think the price is not bad,too bad it's far away. Whats the deal with your Dads Mustang? year color etc? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 3:38am
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Still iffy on the whole thing trying to use U-ship now but we shall see how that works out. Dad's Mustang if in the process of being full restored. Dad's skier, sorry for the bad picture or lack there of only one I could find.  Old boat before we sold (Orange and Black)  Dad's Holman that's in the process of getting rebuilt, then engine is done just needs to get put back together.    |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 3:40am
A friends Mustang that also lives on the lake the other Holman Moody.   Some more pictures of the Skylark.    |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 9:13am
Very nice!  I'm sure glad to see you're keeping them original!  ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 9:33am
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Nice mustangs! Green one is a '70, is the blue one a '69 or '70? The more I think about that rear seat base, I bet the bottom portion was cut off. ------------- |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 11:28am
Nice fleet John,you guy's look like you might like Correct Crafts  Your Dads and mine look like twins.------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 11:50am
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Thank you for the kind words, we def. like the CC's. The Green Mustang is a 69' and Gary's twin is a 70'. Were always on the look out for the next one
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Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 11:52am
Yeah can you take some more pictures of your dad's. Looks a ton like mine also, minus the ss and HM engine. We got triplets! mine is a 70 also. What should a 1970's navigational light look like? is it a smaller one? or the bigger one's like on the 68's? Also crabman you mentioned you were in OH, you could look into this 1966 skylark? it has a super sabre v6. I also have a couple of parts that the skylark is missing, rub rail an a few other things, might be a cheaper option and would leave you with plenty of room to buy parts to it. http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/boa/3638160926.html" rel="nofollow - 1966 for sale in cincinnati ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 12:08pm
My 1965 4 cylinder had the flat deck, floor shifter, foot peddle, and the gauges were placed individually across the dash. It topped out between 28-30 mph. On my lake there is it's identical twin with the exception of the engine. It's a V8. I will stop by and check it out again this summer. 15yrs ago when I talked to the owner, who was elderly, he said it was a 1964. Maybe the 1965 debuted mid year and sometime durring the production run they updated the dash. I've always wondered why the mustang wasn't in the 1965 Brochure. Oh and john welcome to the site. It's a cool color good luck. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 12:16pm
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Whats the hull number on that green boat? Another flat topped motorbox in a '69 with a H-M, what do you know! Still havent seen a H-M with the curvy glass motorbox, or a pre-70 with the flat top over anything but a H-M. The bow light, rear scoop location, fiberglass buckets, dash and added front scoop were all '69 changes. Though, Ive seen some late 68's and early 69's with a mix of the new and old parts. The typical '69-72 bow light is that small round one, like this:  ------------- |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 1:20pm
THANK YOU!!!!!! I was seriously going to rip out that small one and put in my 1968's, glad i didn't. Well i officially have a nice 1968 bow light for sale. I'll upload some nice pictures and post it in the for sale section. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 1:30pm
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Geez, you may want to check with us first on all of your parts swapping decisions! Those earlier (larger) bow lights used in '67-68 are not hard to find... you can usually find a few on ebay at any given time. If the chrome is nice, then someone may want it though! http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-bow-light-boat-/121070579616?hash=item1c305e6fa0&item=121070579616&pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&vxp=mtr" rel="nofollow - ebay1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-BOAT-BOW-LIGHT-/230917470275?hash=item35c3c0f843&item=230917470275&pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&vxp=mtr" rel="nofollow - ebay2 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Boat-Large-BOW-LIGHT-6-x-4-1-2-6350-02-Plastic-Lens-/271133669872?hash=item3f20d379f0&item=271133669872&pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&vxp=mtr" rel="nofollow - ebay3 The smaller lights are still available new. While they look very similar to the http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perko-12V-Bi-Color-Bow-Light-Horizontal-Mount-Chrome-Plated-MADE-IN-THE-USA-Pa-/121073815495?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item1c308fcfc7&vxp=mtr" rel="nofollow - Perko 0972 , the original light is actually a http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOAT-MARINE-STAINLESS-ROUND-COMBINATION-BI-COLOR-BOW-LIGHT-SEADOG-/300627596621?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item45fecd154d&vxp=mtr" rel="nofollow - Sea Dog. (CC removed the metal piece separating the green and red lenses). ------------- |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-06-2013 at 2:12pm
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TIm, I appreciate it, yeah i was definitely going to ask, well i kind of did. Thanks for the heads up I have tons of more questions. Also i guess $20-30 is still more then i had yesterday! ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 3:10am
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turningpoint84 I will def. do that when I head back to Michigan for a few days. I will attach a few more, sorry old I phone photos but, better then nothing I guess. Bakchose Thank you for the warm welcome and letting me know about the MPH. TRBenj I will work on getting you the hull number on that also.    
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Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 11:55am
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WOW! WHo re-chromed all you stuff? I'm going to get that done eventually. Also Your boat seriously is my twin.  Replaced the steering wheel with one that matches.  Mine has a chrysler 273 in it. Would love to see the hull # and compare it to mine. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 1:00pm
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Well long story short the motor had a blown head gasket so we decided to pull the motor. After pulling the motor we then decided to redo the stringers and gel coat all at the same time, which then lead to re-chroming everything. It's been a long journey but it finally coming together after being out of the water for about 5 years. It is pretty darn close, I do love the horns though and wish we had those. Do you still have the original side panels then ? |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 1:19pm
Yeah and i have a set of originals on my 1968, that are yours free if you can figure out a way to get them. They probably need to be upholstered. I'm tossing them out in the garbage come april, Spring cleaning is way over due. WOW that you regelcoated and did the stringers, you might have one of the nicest Mustangs currently, quite jealous, this guy will get that treatment eventually, once i build/buy my dream house and then build my dream workshop. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 1:25pm
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Horns are available http://www.freeportmarine.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?WEBEVENT+L57765B5C3F937800675A05D+M37+ENG" rel="nofollow - here if you want them. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 1:30pm
I would be interested in them for the 4 cycl. Where are you located by chance ? We have some for the 70' mustang that ended up getting redone. It just needs to get finished, I drool every time I look at everyone else's though. The older CC's have something about them and no 2 are alike it seems. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 1:55pm
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All you guy's really need to think about going to the http://www.correctcraftfan.com/reunions/midwest/" rel="nofollow - GL Reunion this summer--- ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 2:16pm
Yeah I wish, I'm going ot vegas the 24th-30th, then i'm heading up to the lakehouse in august. I'm honestly not sure if i'll ever make one due to me storing the boat in Northern Wisconsin. Drive 722miles north, grab boat and drive 200miles south, then 200miles north to drop boat off, and then 722miles back home, sounds like hell haha. Thanks for the horn link! ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 2:25pm
Still shorter than my 1070mile trek each way! Jonathan, that blue boat is going to be a looker! Does it have the glass top motorbox or a wood box? Ive seen both combos over '69 H-M's. Both the blue boat and green one look to be in great shape... Id love to see more pictures! My '70 needs a lot of help to look that good. Hopefully we can start that process this year. Fill us in on your Dad's Skier. Looks like a '71-73... what color/engine/windshield does it have? The late 60's Stangs and early 70's Skiers are probably my 2 favorite CC's- you guys have good taste!  ------------- |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 3:58pm
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Is it in green lake every year? I figure one year i'll plan to do my lakehouse thing, then head down with the boat to trailer it home to get the sucker totally redone. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 5:51pm
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Gary S Thank you for the heads up it looks like it would be a great time, I will have to look at the schedule and keep you posted. It would be great to get a big group to head over that way. turningpoint84 Where are you located ? You have me thinking about those side panels :) TRBenj It will once it gets done, just has been taking way too long. Just really need to take some time and get it finished. Hopefully this April or May in between putting docks in. The blue also has a flat fiberglass top, the green one is still all original and has never been touched that I know of or redone. They both have the fiberglass floors in tact, which I would like to find for the AZ boat but those are a little hard to come by these days it seems. As for the Skier I'll try to find some better pictures but I will warn you it's no looker, but just a great all around boat tool around in. |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 6:23pm
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Cincinnati! I believe they're original ones, but I'm not sure how they were made. They were stapled on and are all white. They're pretty dirty too, need to be washed haha, but i figure if you guys are going all out, they would be great for getting re upholstered. Here's a picture of them, obviously not the best picture. I can take better ones, if i didn't believe they were worth something to someone I would have tossed them a while ago.  ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 6:45pm
| turningpoint84 My uncle lives in Covington and has a little lake house on Williamstown Lake. They look like the original, don't throw them away even if I don't pick them up I am sure someone will. I will talk to my uncle or Dad and see if there planning a trip anytime soon and keep you posted. |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 6:49pm
Cool let me know, that's a cool lake. I'm just off exit 6 on I-71 in Oakley. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 7:16pm
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Careful on the floor pan idea, as I dont think they were used prior to '67. Take a look and see what Bruce did on his early Mustang, as that boat is beautiful. Definitely consider trying to make GL, as the only thing better than the boats are the people who attend these events... Many travel from very long distances, and would be very jealous of your relatively close proximity. Highly recommended! ------------- |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 8:14pm
| I will have to take a look and do a little more searching with in the threads. It.s not Bruce from the old Mid-West CC is it ? Do you have his screen name of hand. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 8:20pm
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No, not Bruce from MWCC. Screen name = Riley I was thinking he posted the picture in this thread... but it was Zach's:  ------------- |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 8:42pm
Peter, I store my boats in northern Wisconsin as well but still make it to GL. Granted, I don't have the 722 mile one way trip but it's still 300 one way. Try to make it. BTW, I don't feel it's 200 miles from MW to GL. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-08-2013 at 9:31pm
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My American Skier being a real basic boat just had grey painted plywood for floors,no sides or cushions. I like my fiberglass pan I now have in mine way better than the carpet I had used before. Don't forget Brian who dragged his boat all the way from California with a 2 year old? too! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-13-2013 at 2:49am
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Sorry guys and girls, ended up getting busy with work and boat deals. Might be also getting the CL Tahoe deal if I can swing time off and if my Dad ends up going down there to pick it up. So turningpoint84 I might be in touch soon about those side panels if there still avab. sooner then later I will keep you posted. TRBenj Thank you for posting, that's amazing and he did a superb job. 8122pbrainard I will work on getting some people together in the next month or so. How many people usually show up ? |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: March-13-2013 at 3:45am
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2011 was the last official year with about 40 boats and 180 people,definitely not to be missed ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-13-2013 at 8:36pm
| That's a nice little turn out then, I will def. see what I can do and check some dates. |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-20-2013 at 1:24pm
It's 201 miles, googe maps! I'll do it someday, just not this year. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-20-2013 at 1:25pm
Any word crabman? No rush on the panels they don't take up much room! ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-20-2013 at 3:39pm
| turningpoint Sorry I've been crazy bust trying to figure out everything lately. I am going to look and see if I can get them this weekend or possibly the next. I also wanted too look at that Tahoe too when I'm down there as I might purchase that for a parts boat. Have you looked at it all ? Was wondering the condition of the trailer to make it back to MI. I will let you know ASAP on those side panels when I have better concrete times. |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-20-2013 at 4:10pm
If the trailer is crap i have one that will make it to michigan, we can swap, would just need to figure out how to get a non working boat off and on another trailer haha. Not in the best condition. I've thought about buying the boat as a parts boat as well, but no room! If you do go look at it and buy, please swing by with the boat! I'd like to see if myself, any luck talking to the owner? Any luck with more pictures of your dad's boat? ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: dochockey
Date Posted: March-20-2013 at 4:57pm
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After looking at these green ones I'll take one? Did any one pick that one up in the Cincinnati area? ------------- 1989 Teal Ski Nautique 1967 Mustang Harris Float Sunfish |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-20-2013 at 5:34pm
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Not sure, i was going to but GF is not a fan. ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: March-20-2013 at 6:41pm
| dochockey I am hoping to head down there ether this weekend or the following to take a look at it. I do have a few extra pictures at home of it that Mike sent me but it needs a ton of work on really only good for parts. |
Posted By: turningpoint84
Date Posted: March-20-2013 at 6:57pm
email me the pictures, or you better bring it by! ------------- Proud 1968 mustang owner and now http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=6454&sort=&pagenum1" rel="nofollow - 1970 Mustang |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-19-2013 at 2:14pm
| So it's been a busy couple of months but the boat is back in MI finally. I had to head to work in Ohio for the next three days but will hopefully be back in MI this weekend to work on it. I'm going to clean the oxidation off a bit, I did a spot with wax and looks much darker then I originally thought (sea foam). The MC number I am pretty certain was MC 1819. It originally came with a foot panel so I'm on the look out for one of those, so if any of you know a lead on one please let me know, thank you. |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-20-2013 at 11:43pm
    Does anyone know where I can send the upside float bowl out to or have a place where I can get parts ? The boat I don't think is Sea Foam anymore the more I look at it, seems to be a darker green then I first thought. Also has anyone seen this engine cover ? This is the first time seeing this vintage. Anyone with interior pieces for this vintage let me know. The last picture is the rig I drove back with a sight unseen Jeep actually turned out to be a decent deal so far. |
Posted By: juniorwoody
Date Posted: June-20-2013 at 11:51pm
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Crabman i love your boat and I respect your skill set in seeking out and bringing home something you really want. Must feel good! ------------- The value of money spent on new adventure far exceeds the value of money saved for the future |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-20-2013 at 11:59pm
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Thank you for the compliments, and yes it did just glad everything worked out and I made it back(2500 miles) okay since both items were bought sight unseen for me.I know the boat probably wasn't worth it to a lot of people, but I like the rarity of it and it's originality. Come to find out it also came with a foot pedal, which the original kick panel still had the markings on, which I love. It should have came with cockpit seats but, I will find out a little more this weekend. |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-21-2013 at 12:56am
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Congratulations on pulling it all off. That was quite a trip to make but it is a cool boat. As far as the color, varying light, oxidation, and the inconsistencies of computer screens makes color judgements hard. This isn't the first time color has been undecided. But based on the one with the good coat of rain, it appears to be turquois. If you haven't seen it yet, check out the color wheel in the 66 brochure in the reference section. That makes the boat just that much rarer and cooler as sea foam was very common. Good luck with the project. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-21-2013 at 9:55am
Thank you, it was and the Jeep struggled a bit, but luckily made it. I am going to try to do some buffing this weekend and take a few more pictures after but I think your right with the color. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: June-21-2013 at 10:03am
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Yep, thats no seafoam... teal/turqoise for sure. Get a better picture of the entire motorbox... that one shot makes it look like the typical glass box used over the narrower V8's pre-1970. That bump out in the front is something I havent seen before though... normally it is flat. Anything on the front of that 4cyl motor that would necessitate that bump out? ------------- |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-21-2013 at 10:32am
I will this weekend. From recollection I can't remember why it would have a jaunt out like that but it also has three hinged straps on the back which had me confused and there all the same, so I would assume it came from the factory that way (super small engine cover). Also I laughed a little when I saw the prop: 11 1/4 X 10. Tiny one. |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 11:27am
   Here's a few updated pictures of the resto, the deck had a few more spider cracks then I would have liked but can't complain too much. The sides I thought turned out very well. Still have to do the other side though. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 11:52am
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She's cleaning up nice good to see it's in good hands ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 75 Tique
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 12:11pm
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Looks great. ------------- _____________ “So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 3:16pm
| Thank you, yea I couldn't see another go to waste :) . I hope to get the floor out this next weekend, still in search for a donor boat with an interior though. Been browsing CL, EBAY, and here of course. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 7:59pm
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Jonathan, I somehow missed this thread lately! That hull sure came out looking great. Are you still in need of help with the Zenith updraft? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 11:28pm
The sides have fared fairly well,the top has a lot of little spider cracks from the AZ sun though but I sort of expected that. I have a friend that's a gear head looking into it now. Do you have any leads on rebuild kits or possibly where to send it too if this doesn't work out ? Any suggestions are much appreciated. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 11:41pm
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You could try http://www.daytonaparts.com/findyourcarb.html" rel="nofollow - here for carb parts. How about some pictures of your floor? I suppose back then you just had a plywood floor,I don't think the pans came until later. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 11:44pm
| I'll get some pictures of the floor this next weekend but you are correct in that it's plywood. It looks like some also tried to glass the plywood at some point. It how ever looks like the original floor and there is still the foam underneath that most people take out. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-24-2013 at 11:54pm
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My 64 American Skier with the same engine had a grey painted plywood floor with no foam. So that should be easy for you to do. I think back then foam was optional ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 12:07am
| Thank you for the link by the way. I didn't know that, I might have to look into that then. The floor isn't horrible but, it's one of those things since I'm in there I might as well do it. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 12:14am
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With what you guy's have done with your Dads Mustang I'm sure you will have no problem John. By the way I went back and saw your floor pic's in the beginning. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 10:33am
| I hope I can at least get it close, he had his all re-gel'd, at some point I will but that probably won't be for a few years. I just need to find a donor boat for the interior, I have my eyes on that one in Cincy but for some reason the guy won't call me back (fingers crossed). |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 11:39am
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You dont want or need a donor boat for the interior, unless youre talking about the fiberglass stern seat base? I am not sure those were used on the early Mustangs though. Prior to late '68 (or early '69), the front seats were built using wood frames. The plans for them are on the site somewhere. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 12:06pm
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I've got a pair of rough re upholstered/rebuilt bucket seats, side panels and rear seat from a Barracuda if you want to come to Maine and get them. They will be going to the dump by end of July along with the hull. Your boat looks great. It's very similar to our 66 Mustang. |
Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 12:08pm
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Bruce, what seats are those? Got pictures? I thought the frames used in the Cuda and Stang were different heights. ------------- |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 12:20pm
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Tim, they are the seats out of the blue '67 Cuda from Sanbornville we picked up last winter. The one that had been for sale and I'd been calling on since about 2002. You've sent me links to it in the past. We finally got the guy to budge off his price. They are all rebuilt and have terrible upholstery, but are solid. I never realized the bucket seat from the 60's were different, if that is the case. I thought the same buckets were used for their whole line. This is the best picture I have: 
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Posted By: TRBenj
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 12:47pm
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Well the buckets in your Mustang are certainly original, so you have a great reference point- so perhaps I am misremembering! I could have sworn you and I had discussed this previously. I thought some (or all?) Cudas had aluminum frames that the seats sat on, whereas the Mustang seats sat right on the floor. The Cudas sure seem like deeper boats up front. Or maybe it was just the split bench seats that got the aluminum frames? Or maybe the picture I have in my head is of a boat whose seats had been replaced with the 70's style? I cant find the one Im thinking of, but it sort of looks like this:  ------------- |
Posted By: Bakchose
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 1:04pm
| Tim I don't think you are misremembering. I've seen Cudas with a higher back rest. An example is the 1965 in Glen Falls NY in the diaries. The was also a blue one somewhere on this sight. My 1965 cylinder buckets looked like Bruce's. |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: June-25-2013 at 1:11pm
| The buckets in our Mustang are not original. They came out of Peter Connolly's Skylark and they were not original to it either. They are shorter and than the originals and have thinner seat cushions. We have the originals that came with the boat, but they need reupholstering. They look the same as all the wood buckets from the 60's that I've seen. I believe the metal frames started in 1968. That blue Cuda I'd say is a late 67/early 68 as it has 68 rear vents, metal front seat frames like a 68, but in dash gauges and the Merc wheel like a 67. I believe by the end of 68 Cudas had a dash panel for their gauges, metal seat frames and the wood grain wheel. |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-26-2013 at 10:28am
For some reason I thought they were fiberglass, I will have to do some investigation then and if not I can always find that pattern and make my own. Thank you for the heads up. I was just looking to getting a few parts off the other boat like emblems, light hardware ....etc. |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-26-2013 at 10:31am
I might take the buckets, not sure I would road trip it maybe just pay shipping if your going to throw them a way Thank you, it's coming along I should know a little more info on the spec in a few days, I have someone looking up the M number.
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: June-26-2013 at 10:35am
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The bow light for your boat comes up on ebay pretty regularly. The scripts are rare, but Art Cozier has been having some reproduced, so you may want to contact him. Are there holes in your bow deck where chocks used to be? If so, those are still available and made by Perko. I can pull the seats out this week end and take pictures. |
Posted By: crabman
Date Posted: June-26-2013 at 10:42am
| I've been browsing for the bow light and looking in the Chris Craft parts section as they sometimes used the same components. Art is actually looking up the boat Hull ID number for me, so I will be in contact with him about the scripts also, thank you for the heads up. I was actually just browsing them the other day, they look amazing. It doesn't look there were chocks on this boat but, bimini hardware that someone added that I need to remove. |