312 Y Block Winterizing/Draining
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Topic: 312 Y Block Winterizing/Draining
Posted By: quinner
Subject: 312 Y Block Winterizing/Draining
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:16pm
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Since I used the Classic a whole 1 time this year it is going to need a drain before winter, Being very new to me, no idea how the 312 plumbing works, will I be looking for (2) block plugs, (1) trans cooler, (2) exhaust manifolds and (1) J-Tube/Hose extraction as a starting point. Any advice/pointers would be much appreciated. Also do I need any pour-in or is drain only OK?? Thanks!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:27pm
| Shouldn't you check with Charles? |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:31pm
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Pete should be able to help you out since he has a 312. I think I'd drain and then pour a gallon or 2 in the engine to mix with any residual water and let everything drain again |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:34pm
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That is where I started, He suggested reversing the battery cables so it runs standard rotation and sucking in the pink stuff through the exhaust, I would have done that butt cant find the battery plus I forgot where I parked the boat?? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:41pm
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Pure Genius Good thing you lost the boat 
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:49pm
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You've been around this site long enough to know that there's a reference section with some good manuals written by the engineers who designed these things The 68 Interceptor manual in said location has what look like really good instructions on laying it up. Probably the same as for your 64 .......maybe |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:53pm
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One small problem, that manual was for the new fangled 289 engine and not the y block engines but I'm sure they had block drains
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Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:58pm
| Riley is logged in right now, I bet he'll be able to tell you everything you need to know |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 10:59pm
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There's a manual for that actual engine with the yellowish cover in the reference section.. Pretty much like any Ford. There's a plug on each side of the block, a drain on each exhaust manifold, and a plug on the bottom of the raw water pump. I remove the intake hose off the bottom of the raw water pump. Getting the anti freeze in the engine is a little different, although your set up may be easier as you only have one thermostat. I always pour in that special -100 stuff and make sure it runs out with good color, then I pickle it. I'm beginning to think pickling is a waste of time and money, but can't break myself of the habit. |
Posted By: MourningWood
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 11:02pm
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Those drain points match my '64 312: (in S F Bay Area) i run until warm, then suck up 50/50 coolant mix while running in some fuel stabilizer. Also do an oil/filter change so any fuel contamination doesn't affect bearings. Boat is stored inside. Seems to be working out. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 11:46pm
You guys really made me work for this one, lol  Since mine is a downdraft, which both Zach and Timmy believe is original, I referenced that motor, looks to be pretty straight forward. Is there any Diesel oils left that have the ZDDP I need, motor is leaking pretty bad so hate to use the high dollar VR oil until I really know the true health of this motor?? Pretty sure Pete mailed the cap, rotor & points last year, so should have those any day now ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: October-30-2017 at 11:52pm
| I'd use straight Rotella 30W. Best deal for it is at Walmart.. $16/gal last I saw. |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: October-31-2017 at 12:43am
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VR-1 is at Farm and Fleet for 4.50 a qt and at Menards for 4.99 after 11% rebate, 4.44 if you don't want to get all dressed up to go to Walmart ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: October-31-2017 at 6:49am
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Chris, Glad you found the engine manual! How did the Classic run the one time you had it out? ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: October-31-2017 at 8:27am
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After Zach and Timmy messed with it she ran well enough to pull Boziel on a slalom. Going to give it some loving this winter, needs a good scrubbing and then a physical, likely a complete tune-up and then a full rubbing/polish. Eventually try and do something with the bottom paint or finish and finally get my new to me trailer from Bruce up here from Reidland for it's resto. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: October-31-2017 at 12:40pm
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Last time I visited Uncle Wally ( couple of hours ago) I checked out the 15w40 stuff and good ole' Supertech 15w40 still has the CJ-4 rating and plenty of zinc (And cheap but good $ 9.88 a gallon) The latest Rotella T-4 15w40 still has plenty of zinc too, but some people just can't get past the lack of a gas engine rating like SM or SN. Others can and still use it Click on Shell Rotella T4 Triple Protection tested on 3/30/17. That's the CK-4 rated stuff They update it as they test stuff so you have to pay attention to dates and ratings. http://pqiamerica.com/HDEO_Sample_Summary_Dec_2016.html" rel="nofollow - PQIA diesel oil link |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-28-2017 at 10:06pm
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No I did not search because I know you guys have the answer, what oil filter does this block use? The one on there now is some crazy off brand and looks like it was installed with a hammer. The drain plug on the water pump is a disaster, going to try a vice grip to get it off and then replace it, thank you HW for looking at it for me as I could not contort enough to see what the heck it was, lol. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-28-2017 at 10:21pm
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You should have Hollywood remove the pump and replace the impellers while he's down there.. We use a NAPA Gold 1521 oil filter. |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-28-2017 at 11:10pm
Or a Napa Gold 1068 which is the shorter version if there is a clearance problem to a stringer like my X55 has. ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Riley wrote:Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 8:29am
I figure your 1068 is the shorter version of something but it's not the shorter version of a 1521. The 1521 is 3.78 inches long Your 1068 is 4.33 inches long A 1515 is 5.19 inches long so you would have the shorter version of that. So Pete, yours is longer than Riley's
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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 8:32am
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Definitely going with the 1515 then as I need every inch I can get!! Thanks Guys!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 9:05am
| Let us know how that 1515 works out. You may want to pick up a Sawzall while you're at NAPA. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 9:14am
Well big boy, if you're lookin' for length you might want a NAPA 1773. It's the length enhanced version, it's about 7 inches long. Riley's will fit for sure though 
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Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 9:43am
| LOL, if 5.19" is good, 7" got to be better! All it needs is a few floor modifications. |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 9:45am
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You must be getting old and forgetful Quinner, you asked the oil filter question back in the thread linked below http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40851&PN=1&title=312-interceptor-parts-1964-classic" rel="nofollow - old thread Actually my main reason for linking the thread was to remind Pete about sending you his Sierra ignition kit that he'll never ever use. Or he'll never admit that he'd use it anyways
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Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 10:26am
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LOL, I just searched that one out this am to make a list of ignition parts needed that have not arrived in the mail yet :) and did see the oil filter recommendation, good to see our information database is consistent and expanding, literally!! ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 11:14am
Well Ken, now that you have once again worked me over bringing up the Sierra kit, I dug it out and took a closer look at it. Talk about forgetfulness, the parts in the kit are used so, I DID use the kit!! ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 4:14pm
Gotta keep old minds active Pete, I'm just doing my part. I'm not sure about you though, first we find out you have an electronic ignition module in the Tique and now you've used Sierra ignition parts in the Dunphy.at some point in time What kind of secrets are you hiding in the Atom? |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 4:19pm
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I'm gonna take a guess that you have a custom built Vertex magneto providing the spark to that 4 banger
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Posted By: Hollywood
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 5:05pm
| ProTec |
Posted By: phatsat67
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 5:08pm
| MagTec ProTec |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 5:24pm
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By Duralast ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 5:38pm
No Vertex or "Pro-tec" mag and certainly not Duralast branded. This is the only mag I've ever fooled with: ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 7:12pm
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You'd better check https://science.howstuffworks.com/question375.htm" rel="nofollow - this link out Pete. I suspect you have touched more of them than your neighboring state's senator touched butts ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 8122pbrainard
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 7:16pm
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Gary, You are so correct. Small engines didn't even cross my mind!!   ------------- /diaries/details.asp?ID=1622" rel="nofollow - 54 Atom /diaries/details.asp?ID=2179" rel="nofollow - 77 Tique 64 X55 Dunphy Keep it original, Pete < |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-29-2017 at 11:58pm
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Trying to keep up, is Pete mailing me a Protec duralast used condensing rotor cap from China that is not original?? ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-30-2017 at 9:01am
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I think that's what you're getting. Make sure you update this when it shows up. Pictures are needed of course |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-08-2022 at 9:03am
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1,817 days have passed, hope is starting to fade :), see what is in the mail later today. How time flies, pulled the Classic out of the archives recently and have re-engaged on the resto. Over the past couple thousand days, Quick update, worked on the hull quite a bit to remove all the resin some PO had added around the waterline as well as some sanding on the hull sides. Sides definitely have substantial cracking throughout but all is pretty faint so should shine back up pretty well. The top deck is in very good shape and should only need compound and polish. Recently, changed the oil and filter, added some restore to the oil and freshened up the gas with some treatment. She starts and runs however there are some carb issues. Did get her back on the water, shifts smooth but needed to hold the choke closed to rev up at all. Going to rebuild the carb and put in some fresh spark plugs next. More to follow. Also do not recall if I ever started a separate thread on this restore, will need to see if something is out there unless of course Ken provides a link :) ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-08-2022 at 1:25pm
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Be patient on the points delivery..............he only looks at them every 28 years or so My search buddy "Googlie" doesn't think you ever started a separate thread but it gets mentioned in a couple or a few threads and you said you were gonna start one................So start one pronto big boy. |
Posted By: Riley
Date Posted: November-08-2022 at 2:13pm
| How about a picture on that new trailer? |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-12-2022 at 7:19am
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Bruce, trailer is still occupied by the old hull, should be gone soon and we will get her swapped over. Are pics still a giant PITA to add on the site, been a while since I added any? Now have a rebuild kit in hand, see how that goes as it's been about 14,600 days since my last carb rebuild. Carb is a Ford 4100 F4. ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: Gary S
Date Posted: November-12-2022 at 8:55pm
As you can see he's had to get a different ride to blend in- so far so good. The rest is just icing on the cake. Notice how this setup protects the rear of the boat against tree damage, quite ingenious.  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1711&sort=&pagenum=1&yrstart=1966&yrend=1970" rel="nofollow - 69 Mustang HM SS 95 Nautique Super Sport |
Posted By: 63 Skier
Date Posted: November-13-2022 at 9:47am
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I'd get a 3rd axle under there as soon as possible to carry that load. |
Posted By: quinner
Date Posted: November-14-2022 at 8:42am
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Carb rebuild went well, starts and runs, hoping to water test today, see how it goes. One question on the 4100 Ford Carb, re-used the existing jets, primary's only had one marked, it was a 50, my assumption was the other was a 50 as well. On the secondary's, one was a 62 and the other was a 63. Believe they should be the same, is that enough of a concern to replace one or the other so they match?  ------------- http://www.correctcraftfan.com/diaries/details.asp?ID=1143" rel="nofollow - Mi Bowt |
Posted By: KENO
Date Posted: November-14-2022 at 12:14pm
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Since it's been about 40 years since you last rebuilt a carburetor, I'd just run it with the jets you have and see how it does I don't think I'd worry at all about the different size secondary jets since they're as close as they are |