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horkn
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I guess getting back to the OP's question,
the real reason ford quit making marine engines is a little more up in the air than that the 351 was replaced by the OHC 4.6, and 5.4, and 6.8 v10 modular motors. PCM tried to get these motors, including a lightning based roots SC 5.4l motor, marinized, but my guess is that the $$ to make these new tech motors marinized, was not cost effective when GM still had pushrod motors being made, and I bet GM gave PCM a deal to use the 350's when they went to the 5.3l v8. There were a few of the mod motors powering nautiques and other PCM powered inboards, but these were all experimental. I have seen pics on the net of PCM using the supercharged 360hp lighting 5.4 to power a SN. It is too bad, and for this reason, I won't buy a nautique newer than 02 or 03 with the gm based motors. I have had too much bad luck with gm 305 and 350's in cars/ trucks to ever want one in a boat. JM2 pennies |
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kapla
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Lucho
no I have no idea, of the guy selling the engine. I saw it browsing the web. sebastian |
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Luchog
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Eric, no, the Orinoco flows up north on South America, over Venezuela and Brasil, our main river here is the Paraná, wich was.
Kapla, thanks for the data, you know the guy selling it? |
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you guys near the Orinoco?
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"the things you own will start to own you"
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kapla
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Lucho here´s an engine you could be interested in. I saw it on deremate.com.ar under this article Publicación #20050000. looks nice.
Sebastian |
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kapla
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Lucho yes I know Marcelo as we used to ride in the same category open 2... Old days ja....
kinda I miss all the thrill of going on tours to rosario, cordoba party !!! I got settled, have 1 kid and another in the way. Regarding engine Vito was offering a complete used 351 from the ski federation for the mere 6K (bitter). I´m almost sure you know as the market is small. Regarding the marine parts you are repling for my question in the fuel pump? for that I ordered one from discount marine ánd see if I´m lucky here to get it out from the postal office. |
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Luchog
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Kapla, that engine is already sold. It belonged to a friend of mine, Marcelo Angulo, perhaps you know him.
I want a GM 350, for wich I already have the manifolds, or a complete Ford 351W for the 660. I feel the 351M would be a great engine for a bigger boat since it's a low rev engine and has plenty of torque, but it would need a 16'' prop below the hull of the Claude 660 to make it plane or ski. Also, I had to make custom manifolds, get a new raw water pump and a marine carb and fuel pump. By the way, since in our country we dont feel the need to use marine specific parts and most certainly nobody checks this, I think that marine stuff may not be that big of a deal with inline 6s, as most inboard in Argentina use, as it is with V8s since there's much more fuel running through the system, and few more sparks. Anyway, marine parts cost only a few bucks more and I feel much better not ever finding any fuel split on the doghouse. |
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kapla
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Lucho
and whats wrong with the 351m you had for sale in MC? you will need custom exhaust manifolds for it? your looking for a gm engine? Sebastian |
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Luchog
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Kapla, I'm refitting a Claude 660 with a little cabin to use as work boat for my restaurant at the Charigue island here in Rosario.
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Pat, you are undoubtedly correct. Thanks for alerting me to Reid's evil plan! No worries, as I have no plans to molest either Skier as of now. If, by chance, I remove too much material from the rear of my '90, resulting in an outrageous top end and a ruined ski wake, I have a plan. Theres no reason why a hydrogate-esque retractable lip couldnt be added to the transom to have the best of both worlds. By the way, the plan now is to bring the green Skier home this weekend... pics to follow! |
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kapla
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Lucho, thats ok, and in whick boat will you rrefit the v8 engine?
Regarding the manifolds I`m not the one who needs them so i´ll give my friends you email so they can deal with you directly. Sebastian |
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p/allen
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Tim dont do it . I think what Reid is realy saying is that he will tear your engine out and put it in his boat.{where he thinks it ought to be }. Then he will replace it with an imposter. I think the {we} part doesnt include you . |
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p/allen
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Tim Im with you . Leave that great little rare Skier alone and go ahead and grind on that 90. You can always find another one of those .
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Bruce, I know what you mean. But since I was only 25 at the time, and since she spoke very little English, it was quite an experience.
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school and was schooled in French by a French-Canadian girlfrie Reid, I don't know if that really qualifies as French. Celine Dion, to me speaks like she's from Biddeford. |
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No problem at all Kapla, as I was just joking, and exposing my ignorance. I'm one of a handful of Americans who feel somewhat deficient in only speaking one language. I studied Spanish in school and was schooled in French by a French-Canadian girlfriend, but never paid enough attention to either to learn it well. |
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Kapla, my emails is Luchog01@hotmail.com, you can contact me there if you're interested in the exhaust manifolds. I need to either sell them or get a GM V8 without them since I'm refitting another boat and want to V8 it.
As for the boat I believe the Victoria throws a better wake than the old Prostars, now against a Skywake (newer Prostar 195) it's a question of taste on wake shapes. John, it was really funny to find Kapla in here since he's one of the few Nautiques owners in Argentina, in fact, we used his boat on a local tournament some years ago and I even got to get on board as "human ballast". I think that was my first time on a Nautique, then a friend bought a 95' SN and it was the dream boat, now you know I have my 80'. |
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Small world huh? I talk to Luciano on here and by e-mail all the time and he speaks (types?) great english. Better than some guys on here.
john |
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kapla
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Sorry about that, reidp, Luchog happens to be a countryman so I reply him in spanish. I know him from another website (local ebay) so it was funny to find him here.
Next time I'll reply in english. |
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reidp
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I feel like a dog here. All I understood was; blah, blah, blah MOTOR, blah, blah, blah VOLVO 290, blah, blah, blah, masterblah problah 190blah, blah, blah, blah SKI.
I guess it's time to go back to school. I love CorrectoCraftoFano. |
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kapla
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Mira que chico es el mundo!!!! bueno nos estaremos en contacto. Con lo del motor estan mas interesados con el tema de los escapes ya que consiguieron un volvo 290 casi completo pero sin los escapes. Estan viendo que casco comprar si el de la master prostar 190 vieja o el de la nuaitque q fabrican en cordoba.
Qua la usas para wake o ski? Saludos |
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Luchog
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Hi Kapla, you contacted me about a V8 engine you were looking for a friend's boat on Mercadolibre.
My 80' Ski Nautique belonged to Matias Blanco. It seems there are 2 CCfans from Argentina now! |
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Steve, I meant every word of what I said- and I stuck to it for almost 48 hours!
Reid, Ill pack the truck after work. See you in a few days! |
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Tim, just drop that boat at off my house for a week, and after a little test and tune, we'll get her to where we think it ought to be!!
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HA-AH! I get it. April Fools, right Tim? |
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TRBenj
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No, Im definitely not- Ive lost that bet in the past! Im just hoping to cover myself in enough fiberglass and foam to keep my mind from wandering to engine upgrades. |
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Are you sure you will be strong enough to withstand the craving for upgrading for a whole year Tim...???? |
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No thanks Chris. Im not convinced those parts are better than what Ive got- and even if they were, I dont think theyre 50hp better. Id need all that and more to break 50mph unless I can get my hull out of the water. Besides, I already promised myself I wouldnt spend any money on engine upgrades until next year. |
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I've got the complete top end to swap out, heads, intake, and exhaust that will get you more than what you currently have. |
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Ha, thanks Joe.
Bruce, Ive tried that trick and it didnt help much. It took a full tank of gas and 4 big bodies in the backseat to hit an unimpressive 48mph. |
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