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    Posted: August-13-2014 at 5:56pm
I have oil leak on 85 454 bfn that looks to be at rear of motor in front of tranny my question is what's the best way to get to it. pull motor or pull motor tranny .please help
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Oil leaks from the bottom, but probably started somewhere else higher up. Get it all clean with brake parts cleaner and spray a light coat of flat white paint where you think it may be coming from (will wipe off with lacquer thinner later) so it will leave a trail. The oil sender sensor is down there on the port side, oil filter too. Valve cover gasket seems likely, replace with blue reusable silicon gaskets. Unfortunately, the exhaust manifolds must come off to get to the valve cover hold down bolts, unless someone knows a trick I don't, and they are heavy, awkward, and need new gaskets and lots of surface prep to reinstall.
If it comes to it, the transmission is a lot easier to remove than the engine, not to mention much lighter.
Lets hope it's the oil sender unit, you don't have to remove anything else to get at it!
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I was thinking more of rear seal leak
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What color is the oil?


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Originally posted by 4woody 4woody wrote:

I was thinking more of rear seal leak

Pull the starter and see if there is oil on the nose cone. Another often overlooked possibility is the cam plug.
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I agree with Jody. I suspect it's an issue with the rear main seal?


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Pete Is it easier to pull motor with transmission. as 1 unit or motor only .leaving. transmission in boat. Thxs all
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I would pull the engine and trans as one.


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I would pull the engine and trans as one.


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Originally posted by cbr1000dude cbr1000dude wrote:

Oil leaks from the bottom, but probably started somewhere else higher up. Get it all clean with brake parts cleaner and spray a light coat of flat white paint where you think it may be coming from (will wipe off with lacquer thinner later) so it will leave a trail. The oil sender sensor is down there on the port side, oil filter too. Valve cover gasket seems likely, replace with blue reusable silicon gaskets. Unfortunately, the exhaust manifolds must come off to get to the valve cover hold down bolts, unless someone knows a trick I don't, and they are heavy, awkward, and need new gaskets and lots of surface prep to reinstall.
If it comes to it, the transmission is a lot easier to remove than the engine, not to mention much lighter.
Lets hope it's the oil sender unit, you don't have to remove anything else to get at it!


If you loosen the manifold bolts it will lean outward, .25 inch drive swivel head socket will do it
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Originally posted by hotboat hotboat wrote:

[QUOTE=cbr1000dude] Unfortunately, the exhaust manifolds must come off to get to the valve cover hold down bolts, unless someone knows a trick I don't

If you loosen the manifold bolts it will lean outward, .25 inch drive swivel head socket will do it


Yes, if they have been removed in the recent past and don't tear the gaskets, but if it's like the three I've done, it's going to be a job! The bolts like to strip or break as well. But I'll use your suggestion to retighten mine later on. I got both surfaces clean and shiny, and used anti seize on the new ss bolts.
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1 more question guys this is my first motor pull out of any watercraft what's the trick unbolt everything, shaft, etc. (And pull like hell).
With my John Deere..any extra advice is appreciated. Thxs all that's chimed in
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