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VTCharlie 
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 Topic: Fogging Engine ?Posted: September-25-2011 at 10:57pm |
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Does everyone fog the engine? and is it necessary if stored inside in a cold but dry place with a winterized block?. My real issue is that I hired a guy to winterize my Ski Nautique and I don't think he fogged it.The oil was changed but I don't think he fogged it.I'm debating on blowing out the anti freeze and doing the whole process again this time fogging it.Any opinions on this ? Thank You
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62 wood
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Posted: September-26-2011 at 12:14am |
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Charlie,
Not everyone fogs an engine. What year SN? If your concerned you could pull the spark plugs and spray oil directly into each cylinder. I would turn the engine over a few times by hand to help coat the cylinders, then replace the plugs. I see no reason to blow the antifreeze out. maybe someone else will chime in with other ideas... btw..welcome! |
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Posted: September-26-2011 at 12:49am |
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Posted: September-26-2011 at 10:19am |
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Thanks for the info ,the boat is a 92 Ski Nautique in near perfect condition and I plan on keeping it that way.I will probably pull the plugs and give a little oil.
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Posted: September-26-2011 at 11:31am |
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If you choose to take out the plugs, NAPA has fogging foam in a spray can, too easy
I'd just take off the water pump belt, start it up a moment and slowly pour some 2-stroke oil down the carb till i see smoke, shut it off. |
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Posted: September-26-2011 at 8:01pm |
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I fog everything. Simply because it takes a minute in the spring to get the oil flowing through the system once again...so all of that cranking is done with a decreased amount of lubrication.
Plus, engines start like they were run the day before with the fluid. I swear by it. It's easy, quick, and effective. |
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Posted: September-26-2011 at 9:05pm |
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Matt - Just so you aren't giving a false impression, the fogging will not help a great deal with start up lube. Yes, it helps the rings & valve guides (which don't get much lube anyway), but does nothing for the bearings. For that you would need to pull the dizzy & actuate the oil pump manually. I don't bother with that, have been taking my chances with just starting.
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Posted: September-27-2011 at 1:02am |
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I haven't fogged mine in 22 years. I take the belt off the RWP after winterizing (full of antifreeze) and about once a month I crank it and let it idle for about 10 seconds, wait a while and crank it again. I put my hands on the heads and exhaust mainfolds to make sure they're not getting very warm. Then I put the cover back on. This keeps everything lubed and the carb from drying out.
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Posted: September-27-2011 at 11:06pm |
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If you take the main belt off you can start it and it won't blow the antifreze out or the impellar burning up ? .Thank you for the info
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 10:34pm |
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fogging oil $2.00 new engine THOUSANDS you do the math
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 11:25pm |
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Wheres pete on this one? Mr. Original points and condenser and 20 plus years on the same impeller! Id like to hear his take on fogging vs no fogging.
Personally, I think its over rated. If its around, use it. If not, youll be fine. Really you should pull the heads off and put rags of soaked 2 stroke oil in there and put the heads back on again....
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Posted: October-18-2011 at 11:38pm |
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Eric, I can't see a reason NOT to do it, especially on a carbed engine. After I warm up the engine for the final oil change, I run at fast idle, fog it, and shut off. No effort at all. On my '63 I've been fogging with motor oil for the 30 years I've owned it, just like the original owner did. I have used fogging oil on other engines, particularly small engines.
Do I think it's ok to skip a year, the engine will be fine? Yes. But, to not do it at all year after year doesn't make sense to me. |
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 12:00am |
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Does carbed vs fuel injected make that much of a difference as to fogging vs not fogging? Your spraying a lubricant into the cylinders and coating guides, rings and walls. All of which are equally exposed regardless of carb or injection.
What's pcms specs on their new fuel injected motors? I know indmar says theres no need...but indmar says if 7 out of 8 cylinders have 200 psi and 1 cyl has 155, that's within their allowable % of power. Straight from the horses mouth! |
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 2:12am |
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I just meant on a carbed engine you pull the arrestor and fog, so easy to do. I haven't done my GT-40 yet but assume I'll pull the plugs, fog the cylinders, turn the engine over a few times. Not hard, but more work than fogging a carb for a few seconds.
I was just thinking about this - I'm going to take something metal, maybe a couple of nails, and coat one with oil, leave the other dry and put them near the engine over the winter. Maybe they'll both be clean in the spring, or maybe one will be rusty, the other clean. Not sure it's a valid comparison, but might be interesting to see. |
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Posted: October-19-2011 at 9:02am |
Eric, I have always fogged for winterizing. Back in the late 60's I learned from the "old" guys at Wtercraft Sales!! They mixed 50% 30 engine oil with 50% Marvel Mystery and used a pump oiler squirt can. I did the same for years and still have the pump oiler but find the rattle cans of fogging oil to be easier to use. Just down the carb (or up the carb if you're doing an old one with an up draft - or sideways if you have a YH!  ). Raise the RPM's when it starts to bog - give it some more until you see smoke and kill the engine.
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