'77 American Skier Start trouble |
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mcolliga ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: May-05-2011 Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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New batter and battery terminals, as well as a new solenoid. When ignition is turned the starter just clicks. The negative cable to the starter could use replacing but other than that I guess it's down to NSS or starter. Any other ideas?
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charger496 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-06-2010 Location: atlanta, ga Status: Offline Points: 157 |
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Replace that cable. Welcome to CCF. Post pics of your boat. Etc.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21212 |
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What type of battery? Hopefully its not a marine (deep cycle) battery. Does it have a full charge?
Besides just the terminals, there could be internal corrosion on the cables themselves (corrosion = resistance = voltage drop). It also isnt a bad idea to clean the mating surface of the starter to the bellhousing as well as the bolts. The cable running to the starter is positive, it relies on the mechanical connection for its path to ground. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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It's not a NSS. If it's not closed (trans in neutral), you will not get power to the start relay (solenoid).
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mcolliga ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: May-05-2011 Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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It is in fact a marine deep cycle battery. Is this undesireable?
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Mark Mel ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-16-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 583 |
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Yes you want a regular starting battery with good CCA.
The last time I had issues starting I went to napa got a battery and she started right up. That batt is 3 years old now, kept it on the trickle all winter and the boat fired right up after the winter sleep. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Not given, A deep cycle is for low amp draws over long times like for an electric trolling motor. Starting a engine requires the opposite - high amp draw for a very short time. Whomever told you or however you ended up with the deep cycle is a problem. The deep cycle doesn't like the high amp draw and you will see quite a voltage drop. How did you end up with the deep cycle? I still feel you have connection and cable issues. You mention new terminals - were the cable ends green with corrosion? How did you clean them up? Even with new terminals, you still need to clean them and the battery posts with a wire type terminal cleaner. Was that done? Have you checked the voltage to the starter when the start relay (solenoid) is energized? |
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charger496 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-06-2010 Location: atlanta, ga Status: Offline Points: 157 |
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A marine starting battery is essentially a severe duty battery designed to tolerate the boat bouncing around while keeping the acid in each cell. I've used both regular automotive, and marine starting (that's what I have in now). Which one do the experts recommend? And by experts, I mean everyone on CCF.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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David, You may have been listening to to much advertising hype about marine duty batteries! ![]() |
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charger496 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-06-2010 Location: atlanta, ga Status: Offline Points: 157 |
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Ya know, that's kinda what I figured! In my haste to get one test-run last November, I bought the "marine sales-pitch". Kinda felt like I was getting screwed out of an extra $20 that I could have put elsewhere. Live and learn. At least now I have a handy handle, so it'll be easy to pull out when the battery dies in 10 years.
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chrisheile ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: April-27-2011 Location: Edinboro Lk, PA Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Mccolliga: this is a great forum for learning. I come here a lot. There is an American Skier forum at www.amskierboats.com . Dan and Ron Tannis both belong and contribute regularly. You should join us there as well.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Chris,
Are you sure he wasn't talking about this boat? You may have your AS's mixed up! 1977 CC American Skier: ![]() |
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chrisheile ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: April-27-2011 Location: Edinboro Lk, PA Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Hmm, you are probably right. Sorry.
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Hey Pete,check that out,exhaust flaps standard equiptment.
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